A flaw of the 1911 could be fatal 4 you.

Mooseman684 · 08-25-2008, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Taurus Fan

This has to be a troll looking to stir things up. Remember the guy that shot 1/2 inch groups at 1700 yards with his iron sighted .50 cal?

Now dont be bad-Mouthing Quigley....LOL

gandog56 · 08-25-2008, 11:28 AM

Awww, that wasn't a 50 cal!

5shot · 02-17-2009, 12:36 AM

Other than some hoots and holling, seen nothing that says it isn't so.

The US Army knew of and cautioned against using your index finger to aim with and the middle finger to shoot with. It could result in depressing the slide stop pin when firing and jam the gun. That was way back in 1912.

To bad they couldn't make a small fix in the slide stop to give those who go in harms way, another shooting option to use (which was know of since 1835), in close combat to help them survive. Way to look out for the troops.

Want to really get upset, check out the new thread I am starting:

Has your handgun training set you up to be killed?

Sort of like throwing rocks at a hornets nest.

Hey, but what is, is what is.

billy · 02-17-2009, 06:54 AM

i just laughed so hard my eyes are watering.....
what a great way to start the day!

billy · 02-17-2009, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by billy

yer suppose to give em the finger with the hand that dont have a gun in it!

crazy mixed up kids......

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Originally Posted by Big Dog

Yep, the only 'fatal flaw' here is in the shooter's technique. Then again, jumping around hollering with his finger broken might make him harder to hit by the opposition.....

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Originally Posted by LefthandShooter

LOL!!!

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Originally Posted by LefthandShooter

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Originally Posted by Big Dog (A flaw of the 1911 could be fatal 4 you.)

Yep, the only 'fatal flaw' here is in the shooter's technique. Then again, jumping around hollering with his finger broken might make him harder to hit by the opposition.....

Me also! Hard to hit a moving target.

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Originally Posted by 5shot

Other than some hoots and holling, seen nothing that says it isn't so.

The US Army knew of and cautioned against using your index finger to aim with and the middle finger to shoot with. It could result in depressing the slide stop pin when firing and jam the gun. That was way back in 1912.

To bad they couldn't make a small fix in the slide stop to give those who go in harms way, another shooting option to use (which was know of since 1835), in close combat to help them survive. Way to look out for the troops.

Want to really get upset, check out the new thread I am starting:

Has your handgun training set you up to be killed?

Sort of like throwing rocks at a hornets nest.

Hey, but what is, is what is.

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Originally Posted by billy

i just laughed so hard my eyes are watering.....
what a great way to start the day!

Savage7 · 02-17-2009, 08:17 AM

on all my guns i have a place for 3 fingers below the trigger guard, not 2, i also own two 1911 style pistols and have yet to find a flaw in either

gandog56 · 02-17-2009, 12:35 PM

Who dragged this thing back out of the pit?

rondog · 02-17-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gandog56

Who dragged this thing back out of the pit?

The OP, it's his thread, he can drag it out if he wants to.

billy · 02-18-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gandog56

Who dragged this thing back out of the pit?

anybody can revive a thread.
and this one is a keeper.

gandog56 · 02-18-2009, 11:07 AM

Keeper for what, somebody's foolishness?

billy · 02-18-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gandog56

Keeper for what, somebody's foolishness?

yep!
to remind me that not everybody is a super genius like you.

Constantine1911 · 02-18-2009, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by billy

is this whole thread a joke?
because forgive me for saying ...
but that is one of the stupidest things i have read in a long time.

+1

Montana_Mauser · 02-18-2009, 09:52 PM

Yeah personally I have never liked the 1911 because of the fact that you can't point at the people while you shoot them AND the fact that it doesn't have a bayonet lug. And, of course, who would want the 1911's wimpy .45 cartrige when you could get something in .32 or .25 ACP?

Chris61289 · 02-19-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Montana_Mauser

Yeah personally I have never liked the 1911 because of the fact that you can't point at the people while you shoot them AND the fact that it doesn't have a bayonet lug. And, of course, who would want the 1911's wimpy .45 cartrige when you could get something in .32 or .25 ACP?

Better yet, why have a .45 when you can get the 7.62x38R (7.62 Nagant) Nagant revolver with its astounding 1,070 ft/s velocity

That type of velocity makes me wanna laugh so hard. It's amazing it can even kill anything. I've shot pellet rifles with higher velocity

gandog56 · 02-19-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by billy

yep!
to remind me that not everybody is a super genius like you.

Only Wile E. Coyote is a super genius, and look what it gets him!

Jim Rau · 02-19-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 5shot

I am in the process of writing/rewriting an article on the 1911.

It has been met with severe criticism in some quarters, but that does not change the facts of the matter.

Here is a link to it: http://www.pointshooting.com/1911.htm

It has to do with CQ self defense, not target and range shooting.

Point shooting, or as some call it instinct shooting, is based on the premise that the trigger finger is pointing to the same place as the bore (barrel). It should be on the same horizontal and vertical plane as the bore. This is why having the proper grip, and repeating this grip, is REQUIRED to accomplish this. Using your second finger is unnatural and down right ridiculous.
It is learning eye and hand coordination and being able to repeat it.
I taught point shooting in my armed self defense class with VERY good results. I suggest it be used from the 'bent' arm position out to 5 yds (15 ft).

JohnR · 02-21-2009, 09:51 PM

This sounds about a goofy as the hollywood types that have decided to hold a pistol sideways. Maybe it looks cool to someone who doesn't know any better, but there's a reason that the sights are on the TOP of the barrel.

Call me a square, but I'd rather look uncool and walk away than be hip and get carried out.

gandog56 · 02-22-2009, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR

This sounds about a goofy as the hollywood types that have decided to hold a pistol sideways. Maybe it looks cool to someone who doesn't know any better, but there's a reason that the sights are on the TOP of the barrel.

JohnR · 02-23-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gandog56

>sigh< Guess it was a matter of time before they came up with this...sheesh!

Jonthemac10 · 02-23-2009, 03:32 PM

This is hysterical!! a quick story. I took a kid from baltimore city shooting once. He had never shot a pistol in his life, and yet couldn't hit anything from 10 ft. away, even a 2 liter bottle. but when he turned in on it's side like shown above and commonly shown in gangster movies, he hit almost everything. It was a phenomenon that I have never seen the like.

As far as a design problem with the 1911, or any other pistol, is ludicrous. Point shooting, or instinct shooting, is only good when you are startled and can't use your sights. by the time a person is only 10 ft. away you might as well unload in his general direction. I think I would hit at least 5 of 8 at that distance.

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02-23-2009, 03:32 PM	#60
Jonthemac10 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Idaho Posts: 46	This is hysterical!! a quick story. I took a kid from baltimore city shooting once. He had never shot a pistol in his life, and yet couldn't hit anything from 10 ft. away, even a 2 liter bottle. but when he turned in on it's side like shown above and commonly shown in gangster movies, he hit almost everything. It was a phenomenon that I have never seen the like. As far as a design problem with the 1911, or any other pistol, is ludicrous. Point shooting, or instinct shooting, is only good when you are startled and can't use your sights. by the time a person is only 10 ft. away you might as well unload in his general direction. I think I would hit at least 5 of 8 at that distance. __________________ "Guns don't kill people, drivers with cell phones do."

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gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 11,803	Awww, that wasn't a 50 cal!

02-17-2009, 12:36 AM	#43
5shot Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 8	Other than some hoots and holling, seen nothing that says it isn't so. The US Army knew of and cautioned against using your index finger to aim with and the middle finger to shoot with. It could result in depressing the slide stop pin when firing and jam the gun. That was way back in 1912. To bad they couldn't make a small fix in the slide stop to give those who go in harms way, another shooting option to use (which was know of since 1835), in close combat to help them survive. Way to look out for the troops. Want to really get upset, check out the new thread I am starting: Has your handgun training set you up to be killed? Sort of like throwing rocks at a hornets nest. Hey, but what is, is what is.

02-17-2009, 08:17 AM	#46
Savage7 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 234	on all my guns i have a place for 3 fingers below the trigger guard, not 2, i also own two 1911 style pistols and have yet to find a flaw in either

02-18-2009, 09:52 PM	#53
Montana_Mauser Banned Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Billings, Montana, USA Posts: 71	Yeah personally I have never liked the 1911 because of the fact that you can't point at the people while you shoot them AND the fact that it doesn't have a bayonet lug. And, of course, who would want the 1911's wimpy .45 cartrige when you could get something in .32 or .25 ACP?

02-21-2009, 09:51 PM	#57
JohnR Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Western Kentucky Posts: 23	This sounds about a goofy as the hollywood types that have decided to hold a pistol sideways. Maybe it looks cool to someone who doesn't know any better, but there's a reason that the sights are on the TOP of the barrel. Call me a square, but I'd rather look uncool and walk away than be hip and get carried out.