Question about Mak ammo from Novosibirsk

Cranky-Kraut · 03-25-2002, 11:21 AM

Does anyone know what this stuff is?

I have several boxes left of some sort of Russian made Makarov ammo. The box is a wierd semi-light green color and marked "Made in Russia"+ "Novosibirsk LVE-Plant Pic" and claims to be non-corrosive.

I am just curious what this stuff is and if anyone out there has had good results with it. I put a few boxes through my Mak and was horrified by the unpredicatability and inaccuracy of it. I was really starting to think I was 100% incompetent until I then began firing Sellier & Bellot and was getting good patterns.

Dennis · 03-25-2002, 10:23 PM

16rnd boxes? from what it sounds like it's Soviet Milsurp

oldguy · 03-25-2002, 11:16 PM

While I like Russian guns I dont care for the ammo, I find they just pack in as much powder as possible for speed not accuracy.
I reload as another option.

nick · 03-26-2002, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oldguy
While I like Russian guns I dont care for the ammo, I find they just pack in as much powder as possible for speed not accuracy.
I reload as another option.

Cranky-Kraut · 03-26-2002, 09:27 PM

Dennis,
No, sorry. Its in 50 round boxes and sold locally in several gun shops. It even has bar-coding on the pkg so it must be made in Russia for export but it is not in slick "modern" packaging like Wolf.......just crummy, third-world style flimsy cardboard boxes.
Hmmmm, well, at any rate....it ****s so get Wolf for the same price if faced with the choice.

oldguy · 03-26-2002, 11:13 PM

"got lee dies have'nt reloaded yet what do you reload"

I reload 9x18, 9x19(9mm) 45acp and
40s&w.
For someone starting use a single stage
or turret press(low cost) see how you
like it, go slow, careful. Lots of fun
and much better ammo.
Maks with reloaded ammo are tack drivers,
reduced loads are more accurate, easy on
gun.
If you are a serious target shooter reloading
is the only answer.

Dennis · 03-31-2002, 11:40 AM

Cranky,
All the old milsurp Soviet , and others where in 16rnd boxes (two mags worth) anything in a 50 rnd box is for civilian consumption, or so I would think. there may be milsurp repackaged,who knows.
I still shoot lots of old Milsurp that I have on hand. I like the S/B stuff it seems cleaner.

03-25-2002, 11:21 AM	#1
Cranky-Kraut Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain Home, Arkansas. Posts: 165	Question about Mak ammo from Novosibirsk Does anyone know what this stuff is? I have several boxes left of some sort of Russian made Makarov ammo. The box is a wierd semi-light green color and marked "Made in Russia"+ "Novosibirsk LVE-Plant Pic" and claims to be non-corrosive. I am just curious what this stuff is and if anyone out there has had good results with it. I put a few boxes through my Mak and was horrified by the unpredicatability and inaccuracy of it. I was really starting to think I was 100% incompetent until I then began firing Sellier & Bellot and was getting good patterns.

03-25-2002, 10:23 PM	#2
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,896	16rnd boxes? from what it sounds like it's Soviet Milsurp __________________ Submitted with respect to all

03-31-2002, 11:40 AM	#7
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,896	Cranky, All the old milsurp Soviet , and others where in 16rnd boxes (two mags worth) anything in a 50 rnd box is for civilian consumption, or so I would think. there may be milsurp repackaged,who knows. I still shoot lots of old Milsurp that I have on hand. I like the S/B stuff it seems cleaner. __________________ Submitted with respect to all

03-25-2002, 11:16 PM	#3
oldguy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	While I like Russian guns I dont care for the ammo, I find they just pack in as much powder as possible for speed not accuracy. I reload as another option.

03-26-2002, 09:27 PM	#5
Cranky-Kraut Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mountain Home, Arkansas. Posts: 165	Dennis, No, sorry. Its in 50 round boxes and sold locally in several gun shops. It even has bar-coding on the pkg so it must be made in Russia for export but it is not in slick "modern" packaging like Wolf.......just crummy, third-world style flimsy cardboard boxes. Hmmmm, well, at any rate....it ****s so get Wolf for the same price if faced with the choice.

03-26-2002, 11:13 PM	#6
oldguy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 11	"got lee dies have'nt reloaded yet what do you reload" I reload 9x18, 9x19(9mm) 45acp and 40s&w. For someone starting use a single stage or turret press(low cost) see how you like it, go slow, careful. Lots of fun and much better ammo. Maks with reloaded ammo are tack drivers, reduced loads are more accurate, easy on gun. If you are a serious target shooter reloading is the only answer.