I don't have one but I do have an XL7. Very fine and VERY accurate rifles. You cant beat em! I do know several guys on marlin owners who have the XS7's and love them.
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My XL-7 shoots so well, I'm thinking of buy a 308 XS-7 in camo. If the XS-7 shoots as well as my '06 Marlin will have trouble keeping up with the orders.
My XL-7 shoots so well, I'm thinking of buy a 308 XS-7 in camo. If the XS-7 shoots as well as my '06 Marlin will have trouble keeping up with the orders.
Good information. Thanks.
I bet prices will go up too.....
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The XS7 is near the top of my to do list, next year when the .223 model comes out, im gonna take the plunge.
Who says there is a 223 coming out next year? That would require a whole new bolt design, action, and stock. It makes no sense to put a 223 sized cartridge in the same action and bolt as a 308.
Who says there is a 223 coming out next year? That would require a whole new bolt design, action, and stock. It makes no sense to put a 223 sized cartridge in the same action and bolt as a 308.
If you check real close thats exactly what Rem.,Sav.,and others do.They change the mag too,to fit the smaller round. ,,,sam.
Who says there is a 223 coming out next year? That would require a whole new bolt design, action, and stock. It makes no sense to put a 223 sized cartridge in the same action and bolt as a 308.
We have a few guys on marlinowners who work at marlin and they have pretty much confirmed that there could possibly be a 223 in the XS7 possibly next year.
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If you check real close thats exactly what Rem.,Sav.,and others do.They change the mag too,to fit the smaller round. ,,,sam.
That's why it makes no sense. The idea behind the Marlin line of bolt actions is to offer something the others don't or can't offer. A low cost supremely accurate gun the blue-collared worker can afford. The 223 should be put into a Mini action, not a cobbed up longer action. Why would you want a 223 built around a 308 length action? Put it in a mini [XM-7?] ,scaled down, XS-7 action and then you'll have a winner. Put it in anything longer, and I'd rather have a 22-250.
That's why it makes no sense. The idea behind the Marlin line of bolt actions is to offer something the others don't or can't offer. A low cost supremely accurate gun the blue-collared worker can afford. The 223 should be put into a Mini action, not a cobbed up longer action. Why would you want a 223 built around a 308 length action? Put it in a mini [XM-7?] ,scaled down, XS-7 action and then you'll have a winner. Put it in anything longer, and I'd rather have a 22-250.
They made an XL7 action shorter so it won't be that hard to make the action shorter for a 223.
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They made an XL7 action shorter so it won't be that hard to make the action shorter for a 223.
True, but it's more than just making it shorter. It's scaling down in size of everything that gets tricky. The bolt body and face, the reciever, the magazine, the barrel profile, ect. should all be made smaller to fit the 223 sized cases.
At one time Sako made a mini-forester style action for the smaller cartridges. I think there are others out there like that, but they cost a lot of money. If Marlin ever made a mini XS-7 action for the 223, 222, 22 Hornet, 221 fireball, 17 remington, and other similar sized cartridges, I'd be the first one in line for a gun.
I think you might be overstating the size difference a little. There is a difference in size, of course, but the cases aren't that much different in length between .223 & .308...this pic illustrates it well. The pressures are definitely different
.223 .30-30 .308
Given a choice, for anything other than a varmint rifle in the calibers available to the XL-7/XS-7, I'd go .30-06, then .308 as a secondary.
For varmints I'm currently using .22WMR as the ranges I'm at vary from 50 to 150 yards...terrain & brush prevent most longer shots on 'yotes in Georgia where my cousin's farm is, so it's pretty much perfect there.
But since I just got the Marlin 1895SBL in .45/70, I'm going to be content with knocking the living crud out of our tiny Florida deer this coming season
Although I still plan to get an XL-7 in .30-06 simply for the precision they are capable of at long ranges. There really aren't many rounds that have the versatility and power that the venerable .30-06 has. Some of the hotter loads equal the .300 Win-Mag in terminal ballistics. That's definitely not a bad thing at ALL
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Shrek, it isn't just the length, it's the size of the case head. A 223 case head/rim is .373" and the 308 is .468". In a properly designed rifle action, the bolt head would only need to be about .5" for the 223 sized cartridge and not the .679" of the 308. I have a Remington model 7, and the opening in the action is 2.7" long for the 260. A scaled down XS7 could have an opening as small as 2.3".
Just think of how small and dainty that action would be. It would give you a gun from a major manufacturer that could be made from common steel [not exotic metals] and have a weight of between 5 and 5.5 lbs. with a 22" barrel for under $400. Who wouldn't buy that gun?
It's also an indicator of physical conditioning...a 7 pound rifle (like an XS-7 with Leupold VX II 3-9x40 Scope & Sling) to even someone in halfway decent physical condition should really not be an issue.
Arguably, not everyone is built like Bull from the 80s tv show "Night Court" & can flip a VW Bug all by themselves, but being anywhere near decent physical conditioning will greatly increase the amount one can easily carry.
For example, Academy Sports has a lovely 10 pound bar (looks like a staff) that one usually works out with (comes in a variety of weights up to 50 pounds). If one purchases the bar (or several of them) and walks several miles a day carrying one for several weeks, it will condition them to be able to easily handle a 7 pound rifle all day long in the field.
For anyone who works out with weights regularly, even 10 pounds shouldn't be an issue. But since I load my rifles up all the way with Slings, Scopes, and Bipods...I'm used to a heavyer load. Rifles of less than 8 pounds feel like toys to me. I can't see any real benefit to a 5 pound rifle.
But maybe I'm just weird...LOL
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The benefit is in the way it handles. It's like pointing your finger at something. I too carry a heavy gun for hunting [Savage Muzzleloader], but I also carry a nice trim 7.5LBS field ready Model 7. For putting miles on your feet and taking the hunt to the critters, lighter is always better. That's why the model 94 has such a nice reputation for hunting the woods and thickets for over 100 years. It's short, light, compact, and points like it's part of your body. I just think a "walking" varmit gun like I describe would be great. It would also make a great gun to interduce youngsters to the joys of shooting.
