Please refresh my memory on cleaning after using corrosive ammo

HeadShot308 · 11-11-2003, 03:38 PM

Is dousing the Barrel and Bolt with Windex when i am done blasting ok to do ? should i wait til the barrel cools completely? I use Ballistol on my other guns, is it good for corrosive stuff too ? I dont want to remove stock ( unless i really need to).
I appreciate your help. looking forward to shooting this '42 byf I bought it from from Cole Distibutors ( nice people) they said that they are headspaced and ready to go. should i take it to get headspaced anyway? how much can that cost ? thanks again.:cheer: :cheer:

JAMES · 11-11-2003, 04:54 PM

There's a multitude of successful techniques.....Anything containing ammonia (within reason) will help to dissolve the salts; that includes windex. I don't know that I've ever felt a need to douse the barrel or bolt. In my opinion, spraying some windex down the bore (and a bit on the face of the bolt) can be the first of several temporary steps if the rifle cannot be thoroughly cleaned within several hours. I suppose that also depends a lot upon your climate.

Using an ammonia/water solution (about 1/3 ammonia) works well and can be applied using several patches, vice "pouring" it in the barrel. Hoppes #9 works well too. I generally run a few ammonia solution patches down the bore followed by a couple of dry patches. Then I switch to Hoppes #9 (which clears fouling as well) using a brush or patches or both depending upon the barrel and its use. Once the bore is clean, I run a couple of oiled patches through the bore. I've never had a barrel rust yet.

There's generally no reason to remove the stock (in order to clean up after firing corrosive ammo). Just be careful about getting ammonia on the wood!

I like to headspace my rifles myself. The gauges generally cost about $20. I can't imagine that a gunsmith would charge any more than that to check the rifle, but I really am not current there. Best to be sure. What kind of rifle is this? A 42...what?

Dale · 11-11-2003, 06:43 PM

James, I would suggest one more step.

When the thorough cleaning is done at home I always take the bold apart to clean it also.

Headspace, if you let us know what kind of gun you're shooting (sounds like it might be a 8MM mauser, lol) I might be able to hook you up with a link explaining how to disassemble the bolt.

Good shooting!

JAMES · 11-11-2003, 07:41 PM

I agree completely, Dale. Thanks for filling in that major missing step....I didn't even mention the bolt, did I........must be getting old and senile like PapaG!!! Haaarrrr !:nod:

(We'll just see if PapaG still reads the Mauser stuff!)

Dale · 11-11-2003, 11:38 PM

Not a problem, James.

You gave him wealth of information. I was hestitant in adding that because I didn't want to appear I was stepping on any toes.

BattleRifleG3 · 11-12-2003, 12:10 AM

I've been using a 1/3 ammonia/water solution to help GunGeek clean his Romy SKS, and it hasn't seemed to do as well as it should. Some have emphasized soap over ammonia, and windex is a generally agreed upon substance. Does windex have the right ammonia/soap balance or something?

Dale · 11-12-2003, 08:09 AM

BR, the ammonia breaks down/dissolves the corrosive salts.

To me an ammonia solution is not the final cleaning step....just the first.

I always follow up with a good scrubbing of the bore with whatever is the favorite.

I use a 1-3 ammonia-water solution just like you.

But, I've read where Windex with ammonia works just as well.

Big Dog · 11-12-2003, 09:50 AM

I just use a couple wet patches of Birchwood Casey's Bore Scrubber, let sit a few minutes, then clean as per normal.

HeadShot308 · 11-12-2003, 04:08 PM

Thank you very much for the help guys. You are right James , it is a Model 98 8mm Mauser 1942 byf in very good/excellent condition with all the proofmarks (made at the original Mauserwerks @ Oberrndorf ). I already took the bolt apart to clean and inspect ( not difficult to do). i will try the windex and some oil until i get it home to clean it. thanks again i let you know how it shot (and cleaned up). Happy blasting !
:assult:

Dale · 11-12-2003, 06:20 PM

Good shooting, Headshot.

Yep, the mauser type bolts are fairly easy to disassemble. Each of them has some feature unique to them but all are basically the same action.

I religiously celan each one of mine after shooting. I like to be sure that all that corrosive junk is outta there.

PAPA G · 11-14-2003, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by JAMES
I agree completely, Dale. Thanks for filling in that major missing step....I didn't even mention the bolt, did I........must be getting old and senile like PapaG!!! Haaarrrr !:nod:

(We'll just see if PapaG still reads the Mauser stuff!)

heh, whad he say??? young whippersnappers

i have forgotten more than...than... what ever it was

i feel good, NRAJOE has to subcontract to others; that means i am the "KING OF THE WORLD!!!"

7mmag6 · 12-01-2003, 12:49 AM

my usual cleaning procedure and I got this from dennis at empire arms is, windex make sure its the origanal with ammonia on a patch, scrub a bit than take a copper brush with a little break free, run it 20 times, dennis says hoppes is a dog and pony show, next clean the barrel till its dry with a few more patches, lube with outers oil or a good gun oil, dont get the break free on your furniture or it will take the finish off instantly, I try never to use corrosive ammo

11-11-2003, 03:38 PM	#1
HeadShot308 Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 17	Please refresh my memory on cleaning after using corrosive ammo Is dousing the Barrel and Bolt with Windex when i am done blasting ok to do ? should i wait til the barrel cools completely? I use Ballistol on my other guns, is it good for corrosive stuff too ? I dont want to remove stock ( unless i really need to). I appreciate your help. looking forward to shooting this '42 byf I bought it from from Cole Distibutors ( nice people) they said that they are headspaced and ready to go. should i take it to get headspaced anyway? how much can that cost ? thanks again.:cheer: :cheer: __________________ REMEMBER TUTOR. BE WHAT YOU IS, NOT WHAT YOU IS NOT. FOLKS THAT DO THIS ARE ZE HAPPIEST LOT.

11-11-2003, 06:43 PM	#3
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	James, I would suggest one more step. When the thorough cleaning is done at home I always take the bold apart to clean it also. Headspace, if you let us know what kind of gun you're shooting (sounds like it might be a 8MM mauser, lol) I might be able to hook you up with a link explaining how to disassemble the bolt. Good shooting! __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

11-11-2003, 11:38 PM	#5
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Not a problem, James. You gave him wealth of information. I was hestitant in adding that because I didn't want to appear I was stepping on any toes. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

11-12-2003, 12:10 AM	#6
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,609 Images: 13	I've been using a 1/3 ammonia/water solution to help GunGeek clean his Romy SKS, and it hasn't seemed to do as well as it should. Some have emphasized soap over ammonia, and windex is a generally agreed upon substance. Does windex have the right ammonia/soap balance or something? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

11-12-2003, 08:09 AM	#7
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	BR, the ammonia breaks down/dissolves the corrosive salts. To me an ammonia solution is not the final cleaning step....just the first. I always follow up with a good scrubbing of the bore with whatever is the favorite. I use a 1-3 ammonia-water solution just like you. But, I've read where Windex with ammonia works just as well. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

11-11-2003, 04:54 PM	#2
JAMES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 575	There's a multitude of successful techniques.....Anything containing ammonia (within reason) will help to dissolve the salts; that includes windex. I don't know that I've ever felt a need to douse the barrel or bolt. In my opinion, spraying some windex down the bore (and a bit on the face of the bolt) can be the first of several temporary steps if the rifle cannot be thoroughly cleaned within several hours. I suppose that also depends a lot upon your climate. Using an ammonia/water solution (about 1/3 ammonia) works well and can be applied using several patches, vice "pouring" it in the barrel. Hoppes #9 works well too. I generally run a few ammonia solution patches down the bore followed by a couple of dry patches. Then I switch to Hoppes #9 (which clears fouling as well) using a brush or patches or both depending upon the barrel and its use. Once the bore is clean, I run a couple of oiled patches through the bore. I've never had a barrel rust yet. There's generally no reason to remove the stock (in order to clean up after firing corrosive ammo). Just be careful about getting ammonia on the wood! I like to headspace my rifles myself. The gauges generally cost about $20. I can't imagine that a gunsmith would charge any more than that to check the rifle, but I really am not current there. Best to be sure. What kind of rifle is this? A 42...what?

11-11-2003, 07:41 PM	#4
JAMES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 575	I agree completely, Dale. Thanks for filling in that major missing step....I didn't even mention the bolt, did I........must be getting old and senile like PapaG!!! Haaarrrr !:nod: (We'll just see if PapaG still reads the Mauser stuff!)

11-12-2003, 09:50 AM	#8
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,642	I just use a couple wet patches of Birchwood Casey's Bore Scrubber, let sit a few minutes, then clean as per normal. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-12-2003, 04:08 PM	#9
HeadShot308 Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 17	Thank you very much for the help guys. You are right James , it is a Model 98 8mm Mauser 1942 byf in very good/excellent condition with all the proofmarks (made at the original Mauserwerks @ Oberrndorf ). I already took the bolt apart to clean and inspect ( not difficult to do). i will try the windex and some oil until i get it home to clean it. thanks again i let you know how it shot (and cleaned up). Happy blasting ! :assult: __________________ REMEMBER TUTOR. BE WHAT YOU IS, NOT WHAT YOU IS NOT. FOLKS THAT DO THIS ARE ZE HAPPIEST LOT.

11-12-2003, 06:20 PM	#10
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Good shooting, Headshot. Yep, the mauser type bolts are fairly easy to disassemble. Each of them has some feature unique to them but all are basically the same action. I religiously celan each one of mine after shooting. I like to be sure that all that corrosive junk is outta there. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

12-01-2003, 12:49 AM	#12
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Images: 1	my usual cleaning procedure and I got this from dennis at empire arms is, windex make sure its the origanal with ammonia on a patch, scrub a bit than take a copper brush with a little break free, run it 20 times, dennis says hoppes is a dog and pony show, next clean the barrel till its dry with a few more patches, lube with outers oil or a good gun oil, dont get the break free on your furniture or it will take the finish off instantly, I try never to use corrosive ammo __________________ This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine