Smooth move, BattleRifle

BattleRifleG3 · 12-29-2003, 11:29 AM

I was trying to take down and clean up my Czech M98/22 last week and just got madly aggressive. I sprayed that Rem oil on like there was no end to it, worked the takedown springs back and forth, pryed here, yanked there, and got it all apart except for the rear receiver/trigger-group/mag well screw. Couldn't get it to budge at all, period. I tried penetrating oil, I tried hitting it, I tried everything I could think of. Not one bit of progress. I messed up the head of that screw pretty badly trying. Then, prying the barrel up, I think I pulled it too far and bent the screw so that it would be even more impossible to get out. Well that was the last straw. I bent it back and forth and back and forth until sure enough, I got the thing apart, leaving the threaded part of the screw in the rear of the upper receiver. So I can still go ahead cleaning up the metal and restoring the stock. All I can say is that it really needs it, but seems like a great rifle underneath, except for some nasty pitting on the underside of the barrel.

I found the screw I need at E-gunparts.com (Numrich). All I need now is to get that stub out. I did manage to drill through it with a 1/16" or so bit. Any ideas? And any other sources of the much needed rear receiver screw?

PAPA G · 12-29-2003, 01:15 PM

me thinks you better stop playing with that and take it to the gun doctor now before you really screw it up!!!:nod:

Big Dog · 12-29-2003, 01:19 PM

If you have a buddy who works in a machine shop/auto shop, slip him a six-pack and have him use an "easy-out" to remove the pesky screw shank. Uh . . . give him the beer AFTER the job.

Or, drill the hole out and install a helicoil.

There's more than one way to skin a Mauser.

Added a bit later:
Papa G's got no sense of adventure!

Now, if it was a fine Remchester, yep - take it to a 'smith.
The ol' Mauser is going to be quite a learning experience.
Y'all may find out how hard a broken Easy-out can be!

PAPA G · 12-29-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Big Dog

Added a bit later:
Papa G's got no sense of adventure!

you don't know how many times i have carried a brown bag into my old smithys shop in the bag was something or other i took apart and couldn't get back together. i always made his day, at my expense

JAMES · 12-29-2003, 04:09 PM

Ever since George told him that the French and Indian war was officially over and he'd best take his squirrel rifle back home, PapaG has never regained his sense of adventure......

I agree with both suggestions. Try an easy out or drop her off at a smith's.

Dale · 12-29-2003, 04:18 PM

<<<reminding himself NOT to ask BR to work on his guns, lol.

PAPA G · 12-29-2003, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by JAMES
Ever since George told him that the French and Indian war was officially over and he'd best take his squirrel rifle back home, PapaG has never regained his sense of adventure......

I agree with both suggestions. Try an easy out or drop her off at a smith's.

if i cannot do it. i give it some one who know what the heck to do. Old George was a hell of a boss, but i hated the layoff

BattleRifleG3 · 12-29-2003, 06:59 PM

I'm off to see if Home depot can match the screw satisfactorily.

Dale · 12-29-2003, 10:36 PM

BR, I'm still not quite sure which screw you might be talking about but I would think a good gunsmith would have a good assortment of screws.

However, once I found it nearly impossible to find a small screw and then I found it at a local hobby store.

They had a huge assortment of screws for RC (radio control) repairs, both on the engines and mainframe construction.

Mine didn't need to be machine strength so that wasn't a factor and I'm not sure all of their's were.

Just a thought.

BattleRifleG3 · 12-30-2003, 11:24 AM

Numrich has 'em. I'll order one as soon as GunGeek can find out exactly what part he needs for one of his guns so we can order together and save on shippin.

MAX7.62 · 12-30-2003, 12:34 PM

Hey BR, either try an easy-out screw extractor as suggested above or - if you can find a reverse twist drill (my favorite trick!) try drilling it the next size up. The trick with the reverse bits and a reversable drill is that more times than not the broken screw will spin out while your drilling it for an extractor!

Later,
Max

JAMES · 12-30-2003, 02:11 PM

Good point, MAX7.62.

BR, if Numrich falls through, Brownells has those Mauser action/trigger guard screws for about $5 per set.

12-29-2003, 11:29 AM	#1
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Smooth move, BattleRifle I was trying to take down and clean up my Czech M98/22 last week and just got madly aggressive. I sprayed that Rem oil on like there was no end to it, worked the takedown springs back and forth, pryed here, yanked there, and got it all apart except for the rear receiver/trigger-group/mag well screw. Couldn't get it to budge at all, period. I tried penetrating oil, I tried hitting it, I tried everything I could think of. Not one bit of progress. I messed up the head of that screw pretty badly trying. Then, prying the barrel up, I think I pulled it too far and bent the screw so that it would be even more impossible to get out. Well that was the last straw. I bent it back and forth and back and forth until sure enough, I got the thing apart, leaving the threaded part of the screw in the rear of the upper receiver. So I can still go ahead cleaning up the metal and restoring the stock. All I can say is that it really needs it, but seems like a great rifle underneath, except for some nasty pitting on the underside of the barrel. I found the screw I need at E-gunparts.com (Numrich). All I need now is to get that stub out. I did manage to drill through it with a 1/16" or so bit. Any ideas? And any other sources of the much needed rear receiver screw? __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

12-29-2003, 01:15 PM	#2
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	BubbaRifleG3 me thinks you better stop playing with that and take it to the gun doctor now before you really screw it up!!!:nod:

12-29-2003, 01:19 PM	#3
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,213	If you have a buddy who works in a machine shop/auto shop, slip him a six-pack and have him use an "easy-out" to remove the pesky screw shank. Uh . . . give him the beer AFTER the job. Or, drill the hole out and install a helicoil. There's more than one way to skin a Mauser. Added a bit later: Papa G's got no sense of adventure! Now, if it was a fine Remchester, yep - take it to a 'smith. The ol' Mauser is going to be quite a learning experience. Y'all may find out how hard a broken Easy-out can be! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables. Last edited by Big Dog; 12-29-2003 at 01:23 PM.

12-29-2003, 04:18 PM	#6
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	<<<reminding himself NOT to ask BR to work on his guns, lol. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

12-29-2003, 06:59 PM	#8
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	I'm off to see if Home depot can match the screw satisfactorily. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

12-29-2003, 04:09 PM	#5
JAMES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 575	Ever since George told him that the French and Indian war was officially over and he'd best take his squirrel rifle back home, PapaG has never regained his sense of adventure...... I agree with both suggestions. Try an easy out or drop her off at a smith's.

12-29-2003, 10:36 PM	#9
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	BR, I'm still not quite sure which screw you might be talking about but I would think a good gunsmith would have a good assortment of screws. However, once I found it nearly impossible to find a small screw and then I found it at a local hobby store. They had a huge assortment of screws for RC (radio control) repairs, both on the engines and mainframe construction. Mine didn't need to be machine strength so that wasn't a factor and I'm not sure all of their's were. Just a thought. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me Last edited by Dale; 12-29-2003 at 10:38 PM.

12-30-2003, 11:24 AM	#10
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Images: 13	Numrich has 'em. I'll order one as soon as GunGeek can find out exactly what part he needs for one of his guns so we can order together and save on shippin. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

12-30-2003, 12:34 PM	#11
MAX7.62 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Classified Posts: 934	Hey BR, either try an easy-out screw extractor as suggested above or - if you can find a reverse twist drill (my favorite trick!) try drilling it the next size up. The trick with the reverse bits and a reversable drill is that more times than not the broken screw will spin out while your drilling it for an extractor! Later, Max __________________ The Second Amendment, it ain't about DUCK HUNTING! I feel more like I do now that I did when I first got here!

12-30-2003, 02:11 PM	#12
JAMES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 575	Good point, MAX7.62. BR, if Numrich falls through, Brownells has those Mauser action/trigger guard screws for about $5 per set.