The comments made here about mitchels is specificaly in referrence to the WW 2 K98k rifles they are selling. The overpriced part also applies to most everything they sell!
If you're looking for a specific rifle which only mitchels has and don't want to shop the gun shows, gun shops and hock shops then I guess you go to mitchels?
Another thing about mitchels is their defination of something! If they say "unissued" then you had better get a definate explanation of what they mean because it just might mean "unissued" since they rebuilt it with renumbered parts and new stocks.
Dealing with mitchels is Most Definately BUYER BEWARE!!!
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the paper work that comes with the rifle is a little misleading. I purchased one several years ago and paid a reasonable price the paper work with my rifle states that it was made in yugoslavia machined on german mills lathes etc which where used during the war.I wasn't then nor am i intersted in german markings I do understand that original markings on german made mausers ups the value of the rifle. all I wanted was a good shooting mauser 8mm that was reasonable in price. and so far the rifle has done very well for me.
A lot of BS in their marketing, (I don't like their referring to the M48 as a "historical K98) but the price for "service grade" isn't much out of line if you consider $150 a fair charge for a detailed cleaning of an "as packed away by the Russians" K98, (1 to 3 hours, depending on just how filthy yours is and whether you decide to "deep clean" the stock) replacing the Russian-discarded parts, and assuring safe headspace.
Having never fired a Mauser but having had a Mosin since December, the Mitch. Mauser appears to be a good value, if we totally exclude the idea that it is a valid collector's gun (as advertised), from everything I've read here.
Considering that the quoted prices are not much more than what a typical Mosin costs, had I found a way to buy a pile of 8mm ammo for about $.17/round (as with my MN x54R ammo), I might have bought a Mauser instead. But I also like the length of the MN 44, being 8 inches shorter than the MN 91/30.
My other guns are used Minis: a 14, 30, and an SKS plus the ancient Savage .22.
Considering that the quoted prices are not much more than what a typical Mosin costs
YOWZA!!!!....I sure would like to know where your seeing Mausers for not much more than a Mosin!!! That, or your getting ripped off on your Mosin purchases.
The average Mosin sells for around $150. A russian capture Mauser K98 will set you back twice that at least.
And a Mitchells...well...Along with their "shady" advertising filled with half truths and false facts, their sanded, incorrectly stained, reblued, polished, restamped junk is so ridiculously overpriced its not worth mentioning.
BTW... I noticed in their latest ads they began putting the "BBB" Better Business Bureau logo. The funny thing is, literally a year ago they had an "F" rating. I just checked it out again and noticed they had gone to an "AA" rating. WTF???.....I then noticed it said membership join date 9/14/2007. WOW...How is that possible???I dont know how they pulled that off...Plus all of their negative comments and complaints were gone!!!.... I seriously would not doubt that they had a couple of employees log on there and give themselves good marks to up their score. Theyve pulled crap like that before.
I remember my dad looking at a Mitchell's add a while back, he was looking to get me a Kar 98k for my 12th birthday, unfortunately the add he was reading led him to believe that this "Kar 98k" was a wartime production rifle, after the fact he had gotten it and wrapped it for me and when I opened, I was happy that I had gotten a new rifle, but I could tell he knew something was up. It didn't have a Kar 98k stock, and the bolt wasnt blued along with the butt plate. He was pissed that he was led to believe he was buying an actual Kar 98k, but I told him I was happy with it either way, and that it looked close enough to a Kar 98k so I'd still be happy with it. Unfortunately, I think Mitchell's early on tried taking advantage of alot of people with VERY misleading advertising and they are still trying to do it. I think the rifles they sell are nothing but worthless mausers that are pretty much good for just shooting and showing off but that's about it. There is no historical value in them whatsoever. Hopefully everyone will become wiser and catch on to Mitchell's shenannigans.
But Mosin 44s have gone up lately at many places, yet some ammo is still really cheap.
( but no more 300-rd. bulk at Sportsmansguide: suddenly discontinued last week...order small packs there or spam cans elsewhere right now).
I paid $120 for my second today at a small store.
Gander Mt. in two cities wants $150 for freshly-shipped 44s, but one came down to $130.
Depending upon what people will pay for 8mm Mauser ammo, will increasing MN 44 prices make Yugo Mauser prices more attractive?
With all this discussion, where should I turn now to purchase a Mauser? I was all but ordering one from Mitchell's, but sure am glad I saw this series. I am a newbie, just joined 3 days ago-and am very glad to be here.
Check with Empire Arms - they aren't cheap, but they are very honest with their ads and grading. You buy a particular rifle, perfectly described - not just 'from the pile'.
And Dennis Kroh, the owner, is good people!
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i would never do business with mitchell's. they may have nice rifles , but their advertising is blatantly misleading, bordering on fraud. there is not one dang thing that is wwII era about their mauser rifles- they were made in 1948 and later, seems to me WWII ended prior to that. i hate crooked, deceptive, lying Mother F______r's. sorry about my venting and language, but i absolutely hate what those crooks have been doing for a long time.
I may be naive. These guns are not from '39 - '45?
Mitchells is a complete rip off. Real Mausers can be found for a pretty good price if you search around. Mitchell Mausers are for those who don't know or care to know what they are paying for. You'd be wasting money if you got one of thier guns.
So I called up Mitchell's Mausers. The guy who got on the line with me kept telling me that "I didn't want the service grade rifle because it is a piece of trash" and that I *needed* at LEAST the collector grade rifle ($600).
I told him that I'm 24, and I will just be using it for target shooting. He kept saying that "the service grade rifle is terrible, no collector value, bla bla bla". EXCUSE ME? I'm not a ****ing collector. I basically just told him i'll think about it and hung up.
Anyways, if the *service grade* rifles are so bad...then why are they selling them. Seriously, wtf?
Sorry, but ****ing $600 is too much for a bloody bolt action rifle that's 50 years old. They refuse to show you pictures of their rifles so you can see the differences between grades.
Turns out I have a good job....but in this economic crisis I doubt many people have $600 to blow on a ****ing refinished rifle that may or may NOT be a REAL 98K. They need to be realistic, and stop being so ****ing lame.
Where would I go about finding a better deal on a 98k mauser?