Where did all the M48's go?

Garand9015 · 10-15-2007, 09:13 PM

I want a Yugo M48 in the worst possible way but can't seem to find one. If you know of any online dealers its really appreciated thanks.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-15-2007, 10:20 PM

Check Gunbroker, Auctionarms, and Gunsamerica. As far as where they went, my wife has one she loves very much, and would only part with bullets first.

toolman · 10-15-2007, 11:23 PM

FWIW, they're getting harder to find but are still available. If you are wanting to scope\sporterize it, something besides a mid-size Yugo will be a better choice. I'm not saying it can't\shouldn't be done, just that the other large-ring models have better selections of mounts\accessories available. I have a 24-47 that I really like, but the VZ-24 I had awhile back was a bit better.

Garand9015 · 10-16-2007, 07:32 PM

I use to have a VZ-24 but did not like it a lot. It shot great but I like bent bolts better.

SnakesInMyHead · 10-25-2007, 08:19 PM

I have a vz 24 with a bent bolt and weaver mounts I picked up in pawn shop for 100 bucks. The stock was in bad shape, so I put a used sporter stock on it. A very good shooter.

Big Dog · 10-27-2007, 09:31 AM

These rifles come in waves - the Spanish in the seventies, the Turks awhile back, the spate of Russian-capture K98's - so when they get all bought up, we wait to see what comes in next. The Yugos had their big day.
We in the US have been a ready market for the armies of the world to dump their obsolete guns into - and we love it, don't we!?

SwedeSteve · 10-29-2007, 11:35 PM

We LUVS 'em, we do, we do! What do you all guess is next in the mill?

Big Dog · 10-30-2007, 05:42 AM

Hard to say - what with the Useless Nations and NATO getting so many nations to sign onto their ill-thought policies of destroying surplus arms and ammo, instead of exporting them to us!
I keep hearing of M1 Carbines from Greece that are ready to come over, but some legal snafu is hindering it. Same with the supposedly hundreds of thousands of captured German G43 rifles that are said to be in Russian warehouses, ready to come over! They are now on the list of rifles okay to import - but where the heck are they!? I want mine . . .

I'm also thinking that China should have many old Mausers they'd like to unload on us - that pesky anti-Chinese firearms import law is keeping them out, I think.
Once Uncle Fidel croaks and Cuba can get out from under the Red Fist, they can trade with us - bet they have some old Mausers and CZ52 carbines they could send us. Not to mention classic old fifties Chevy cars with clattering Russian engines . . .

SwedeSteve · 11-27-2007, 09:51 AM

I keep hearing about 1903's in the Phillipines. Anybody else head of this?

tackleberry · 12-05-2007, 11:57 AM

try Century Arms International for relatively inexpensive Yugo's...

They have a deal going on, three for $135.00, now they could be missing bolts and such, but parts are interchangeable with the 98 K EXCEPT triggerguards (93-95 Model Mauser triggerguards will work, not the Swede 94 or 96 tho) , the Bolts , and Stocks. I'm waiting for a shipment to see what I get. The three actions are probably worth that much. The Yugo action is a great action for anything under the 8mmx57 in length, certainly too short for magnums, but I have heard of people using them for .30-06 length cartridges without too much modification. Dave

NRA Life member
LCDR, USN (retired)

Big Dog · 12-05-2007, 06:15 PM

Yugo M48 and M48A parts WILL NOT interchange with the K98. Guess how I know . . . ?

There are at least three separate action lengths for the Mauser M98 design.
The K98 is the 'long action', the Yugo M48 is the 'intermediate length' action. Stock inletting is different too.
I'm in the middle of modding a Turk M38 stock to fit the longer Turk M1903 action.

Makes collecting Mausers mighty interesting!

tackleberry · 12-06-2007, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tackleberry

try Century Arms International for relatively inexpensive Yugo's...

They have a deal going on, three for $135.00, now they could be missing bolts and such, but parts are interchangeable with the 98 K EXCEPT triggerguards (93-95 Model Mauser triggerguards will work, not the Swede 94 or 96 tho) , the Bolts , and Stocks. I'm waiting for a shipment to see what I get. The three actions are probably worth that much. The Yugo action is a great action for anything under the 8mmx57 in length, certainly too short for magnums, but I have heard of people using them for .30-06 length cartridges without too much modification. Dave

NRA Life member
LCDR, USN (retired)

Some of the parts interchange with the K98 EXCEPT----EXCEPT the triggerguard/floorplate the stock and the BOLT/ejector. Triggers, bolt shrouds, safeties, magazine springs, screws and pins are are interchangeable.

I received my three rifles today, they are 24/47's and I was very pleasantly surprised. Other than missing some sight parts on one, a follower and spring on another, the the third was complete with everypart intact. I liked em so much at $45.00, I just ordered three more and will put them away once I complete them from parts I have.

take a look!!!

Dave

NRA LIFE MEMBER
C&R Licensee

Big Dog · 12-06-2007, 08:00 PM

Ah! Certain small parts, yes. I had tried to interchange the bolts of the Spanish M43, the Yugo M48A and the Turk M1903 - each had a different action.
Some stock makers are making sporter stocks inletted for the Yugos now - makes sporterizing them easier.
I would expect firing pins to be bolt-specific too, but can't vouch for that.

tackleberry · 12-10-2007, 01:53 PM

by the way, two of these rifles were matched rifles, except on one of them the stock had been renumbered. Otherwise bolt, receiver, and floorplate all had matching numbers. The third of them did not have any matching parts and will probably be a donor for a future project....308? 7 x57?

Big Dog · 12-10-2007, 07:44 PM

Nice thing about these 'gunsmith specials', we don't feel too guilty about modding them!

tackleberry · 12-11-2007, 03:46 PM

Exactly...two of them will stay together, Except for the straight handle on the Model 24/47's, they are similar to the Yugo 48's, but i think they are nicer overall in machining and finishes.

.22guy · 12-11-2007, 03:59 PM

Those look nice and greasy tackleberry. I'm so tempted to do this, I figured even if you only got two complete rifles, that's still a good deal. And you could keep/sell the other for parts.

How hard would it be to find the correct replacement parts, especially the bolt?

Cyrano · 12-11-2007, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Dog

I'm also thinking that China should have many old Mausers they'd like to unload on us - that pesky anti-Chinese firearms import law is keeping them out, I think.
Once Uncle Fidel croaks and Cuba can get out from under the Red Fist, they can trade with us - bet they have some old Mausers and CZ52 carbines they could send us. Not to mention classic old fifties Chevy cars with clattering Russian engines . . .

I wonder what would prevent some enterprising Cubano from setting up a corporation in Cuba, buying the rifles from the ChiComs, and then re-exporting them to us? I'm sure there must be some reason, or somebody would have done it already.

Also, my understanding is that the Batista-era cars don't have Russian engines in them. What the Cubans do is take the pistons out of the Russian engines and rework them to fit in the old low-compression 1950s Detroit engines.

If/when it's ever legal to trade with Cubans again, and you manage to get your hands on a piece of Detroit rolling iron (note: I'd suggest buying something like a Mercedes Benz 240D and offering the Cuban with the '50s dream machine an even swap - you'll come out ahead), the first thing you will have to do is pull the engine and completely overhaul it. The fact that they run at all is a tribute first to the engine designers of that era and second to the ingenuity (or should that be 'enginuity?') of the Cubans who have kept them going by decades of improvisation.

.22guy · 12-11-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyrano

I wonder what would prevent some enterprising Cubano from setting up a corporation in Cuba, buying the rifles from the ChiComs, and then re-exporting them to us? I'm sure there must be some reason, or somebody would have done it already.

Aren't we unable to trade with Cuban entities as well? At any rate, we need to figure out a way to get all the rest of commie weapons in our hands before the UN has their way with them or Hillary bans all firearms imports of any kind.

Cyrano · 12-11-2007, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by .22guy

Aren't we unable to trade with Cuban entities as well? At any rate, we need to figure out a way to get all the rest of commie weapons in our hands before the UN has their way with them or Hillary bans all firearms imports of any kind.

Sorry,I wasn't speaking clearly. I meant "after Fidel is gone, Cuba throws out the Communists, and the trade embargo is lifted," why couldn't some Cuban entrepreneur do what my earlier post described? Is there a legal reason it could not be done now, say by someone in Panama; or is it just that no one has thought of it before?

10-15-2007, 09:13 PM	#1
Garand9015 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 70	Where did all the M48's go? I want a Yugo M48 in the worst possible way but can't seem to find one. If you know of any online dealers its really appreciated thanks.

10-15-2007, 10:20 PM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,609 Images: 13	Check Gunbroker, Auctionarms, and Gunsamerica. As far as where they went, my wife has one she loves very much, and would only part with bullets first. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-15-2007, 11:23 PM	#3
toolman Mr. Fixit Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 6,039 Blog Entries: 24	FWIW, they're getting harder to find but are still available. If you are wanting to scope\sporterize it, something besides a mid-size Yugo will be a better choice. I'm not saying it can't\shouldn't be done, just that the other large-ring models have better selections of mounts\accessories available. I have a 24-47 that I really like, but the VZ-24 I had awhile back was a bit better. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

10-27-2007, 09:31 AM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,642	These rifles come in waves - the Spanish in the seventies, the Turks awhile back, the spate of Russian-capture K98's - so when they get all bought up, we wait to see what comes in next. The Yugos had their big day. We in the US have been a ready market for the armies of the world to dump their obsolete guns into - and we love it, don't we!? __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

10-29-2007, 11:35 PM	#7
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 14,121 Images: 1	We LUVS 'em, we do, we do! What do you all guess is next in the mill? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

10-16-2007, 07:32 PM	#4
Garand9015 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 70	I use to have a VZ-24 but did not like it a lot. It shot great but I like bent bolts better.

10-25-2007, 08:19 PM	#5
SnakesInMyHead Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: tennessee Posts: 10	I have a vz 24 with a bent bolt and weaver mounts I picked up in pawn shop for 100 bucks. The stock was in bad shape, so I put a used sporter stock on it. A very good shooter.

10-30-2007, 05:42 AM	#8
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,642	Hard to say - what with the Useless Nations and NATO getting so many nations to sign onto their ill-thought policies of destroying surplus arms and ammo, instead of exporting them to us! I keep hearing of M1 Carbines from Greece that are ready to come over, but some legal snafu is hindering it. Same with the supposedly hundreds of thousands of captured German G43 rifles that are said to be in Russian warehouses, ready to come over! They are now on the list of rifles okay to import - but where the heck are they!? I want mine . . . I'm also thinking that China should have many old Mausers they'd like to unload on us - that pesky anti-Chinese firearms import law is keeping them out, I think. Once Uncle Fidel croaks and Cuba can get out from under the Red Fist, they can trade with us - bet they have some old Mausers and CZ52 carbines they could send us. Not to mention classic old fifties Chevy cars with clattering Russian engines . . . __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

11-27-2007, 09:51 AM	#9
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 14,121 Images: 1	I keep hearing about 1903's in the Phillipines. Anybody else head of this? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

12-05-2007, 11:57 AM	#10
tackleberry Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 24	try Century Arms International for relatively inexpensive Yugo's... They have a deal going on, three for $135.00, now they could be missing bolts and such, but parts are interchangeable with the 98 K EXCEPT triggerguards (93-95 Model Mauser triggerguards will work, not the Swede 94 or 96 tho) , the Bolts , and Stocks. I'm waiting for a shipment to see what I get. The three actions are probably worth that much. The Yugo action is a great action for anything under the 8mmx57 in length, certainly too short for magnums, but I have heard of people using them for .30-06 length cartridges without too much modification. Dave NRA Life member LCDR, USN (retired)

12-05-2007, 06:15 PM	#11
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,642	Yugo M48 and M48A parts WILL NOT interchange with the K98. Guess how I know . . . ? There are at least three separate action lengths for the Mauser M98 design. The K98 is the 'long action', the Yugo M48 is the 'intermediate length' action. Stock inletting is different too. I'm in the middle of modding a Turk M38 stock to fit the longer Turk M1903 action. Makes collecting Mausers mighty interesting! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-06-2007, 08:00 PM	#13
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,642	Ah! Certain small parts, yes. I had tried to interchange the bolts of the Spanish M43, the Yugo M48A and the Turk M1903 - each had a different action. Some stock makers are making sporter stocks inletted for the Yugos now - makes sporterizing them easier. I would expect firing pins to be bolt-specific too, but can't vouch for that. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-10-2007, 01:53 PM	#14
tackleberry Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 24	by the way, two of these rifles were matched rifles, except on one of them the stock had been renumbered. Otherwise bolt, receiver, and floorplate all had matching numbers. The third of them did not have any matching parts and will probably be a donor for a future project....308? 7 x57?

12-10-2007, 07:44 PM	#15
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,642	Nice thing about these 'gunsmith specials', we don't feel too guilty about modding them! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

12-11-2007, 03:46 PM	#16
tackleberry Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 24	Exactly...two of them will stay together, Except for the straight handle on the Model 24/47's, they are similar to the Yugo 48's, but i think they are nicer overall in machining and finishes.

12-11-2007, 03:59 PM	#17
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,426	Those look nice and greasy tackleberry. I'm so tempted to do this, I figured even if you only got two complete rifles, that's still a good deal. And you could keep/sell the other for parts. How hard would it be to find the correct replacement parts, especially the bolt? __________________ My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban as soon as I take office.