My Mauser is all weird and stuff.

Ballbearing · 06-04-2008, 12:20 AM

It's supposed to be Czechloslovokian (apologies to those of Czechloslovokian descent if i spelled that wrong) but it has a superficial stock boo-boo (and i'm a perfectionist) and so i ordered a Czechloslovokian replacement stock and it wouldn't fit. There really are no markings to speak of except the serial number, i was told it originally had nazi markings but that they were ground off the receiver for "export purposes". It functions well enough. It has an oversized stamped metal trigger guard, i assume for use in cold weather areas when youv'e got gloves on. I don't care if it's worth any money, that isn't what i bought it for, but i would like to know it's origins if anyone has any idea, i'm all ears.

P.S.: Another weird thing, it also has four sling swivels. One on the passenger side of the stock just aft of the hand guard, one on the bottom of the buttstock in the usual place, and two on the barrel band on the foreward part of the stock one on the bottom and one on the passenger side. Why does it need four sling swivels? Why?

GlockMeister · 06-04-2008, 12:38 AM

GOT PICS? Will help those that can help you a lot.

lefty o · 06-04-2008, 01:30 AM

if it originally had nazi/german markings, odds are that it is a 98 mauser. what is the distance between the action screws(center to center)?

Ballbearing · 06-04-2008, 01:37 AM

Don't have a webcam. Can't post pics. I wasn't entirely correct about the markings though, my memory apparrently wasn't as good as i thought. When i got it out i found the words "CESKOSLOVENSKA' ZBROJOVKA,A S,BRNO" On the drivers side of the receiver, the serial number is there, four numerals with a single letter "J" below it. In front of that, near where the barrel meets the frame is some kind of small symbol, not a letter, more like an ordinance mark, this might sound crazy, it's tiny and i can hardly make it out, but it looks like an old medieval shield with a rampant lion on it. I hope that helps.

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Originally Posted by lefty o

if it originally had nazi/german markings, odds are that it is a 98 mauser. what is the distance between the action screws(center to center)?

I just measured it, and it appears to be 8 inches exactly.

jimkim · 06-04-2008, 01:42 AM

Here is a link to another forum that has pics. Is this your rifle? Google Image Result for http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p248/tsellati/rearend.jpg

Ballbearing · 06-04-2008, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jimkim

Here is a link to another forum that has pics. Is this your rifle? Google Image Result for http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ti/rearend.jpg

I don't think so, my sling swivels are on the opposite side, and my bolt is bent, not straight. Also, i don't have a bayonet (not that that matters). Also, the mauser in that photo has a thick milled steel trigger guard. Mine is a steel stamping, and oversized.

lefty o · 06-04-2008, 01:51 AM

try remeasuring, there are no mausers with 8" action screw spacing. standard large ring mauser action screws should measure 7.835" center to center.

Ballbearing · 06-04-2008, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lefty o

try remeasuring, there are no mausers with 8" action screw spacing. standard large ring mauser action screws should measure 7.835" center to center.

You are talking about the two screws that go in through the trigger guard into the action, right?

Yeah, you were right, about 7 and 7/8th's inches, not quite 8.

lefty o · 06-04-2008, 01:56 AM

yes.

jimkim · 06-04-2008, 01:56 AM

Did you look at the writing on the receiver.

Ballbearing · 06-04-2008, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jimkim

Did you look at the writing on the receiver.

That huge lion isn't there, whatever was once in that area has been milled off. There's just that tiny symbol i mentioned before. The letters on the side of the receiver are the same except there isn't any
VZ 24 on it. Also, the part of my receiver where the lettering is, is longer than the one in the picture, at least it looks longer. Also, the sight graduations on the rear sight ladder are the mirror image of the photos. In other words, the sequence of numbers on the left side of the gun in the photo, are on the right side on my rifle.

Mooseman684 · 06-04-2008, 02:15 AM

I believe by decription you have a Czechoslovakian Late Model 24(T). It should have a cupped buttplate, A firing pin disassembly disc or Dismounting hole on the buttstock,An oversized trigger guard, may have a slotted buttstock, German type stamped bands, and Modified gas escape holes in the bolt...It would actually be a KAR 98 K in its last production version....
Rich

Ballbearing · 06-04-2008, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

I believe by decription you have a Czechoslovakian Late Model 24(T). It should have a cupped buttplate, A firing pin disassembly disc or Dismounting hole on the buttstock,An oversized trigger guard, may have a slotted buttstock, German type stamped bands, and Modified gas escape holes in the bolt...It would actually be a KAR 98 K in its last production version....
Rich

It is very much like you described except i don't know what a "cupped" buttplate is, but my buttplate is pretty much an ordinary steel one, it is kind of rounded and not flat if that's what you mean.

Mooseman684 · 06-04-2008, 04:02 AM

Rounded (Cupped) to contour to your shoulder and Not Flat....
Did I describe your rifle Correctly ??? If so, you need a Kar 98K Mauser stock!
Rich

MauserMan1 · 06-04-2008, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Rounded (Cupped) to contour to your shoulder and Not Flat....
Did I describe your rifle Correctly ??? If so, you need a Kar 98K Mauser stock!
Rich

A K98K stock would not be correct for his rifle.

Mooseman684 · 06-04-2008, 12:23 PM

And why Not ???

Asphalt Cowboy · 06-06-2008, 12:46 AM

Does the butt plat on your rifle look like the one on this one?

Ballbearing · 06-06-2008, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Asphalt Cowboy

Does the butt plat on your rifle look like the one on this one?

No, it doesn't come up over the stock like that. It covers the butt only. Kind of like a crotchless bikini.

ArkansasHunter · 06-06-2008, 01:44 AM

I bought a Mauser one time at Wal Mart when I was around 22 to 23 years old.

I didn't like the way it fired !!! Ever time you closed the bolt it went BAM !!! (It went off !!!)

I couldn't get use to that !

Caused my brother who was up against a Pine tree take'in leak to pee all over himself.

Made him so mad and he Frogged me on the Arm and it hurt ~!!! Said I did it on purpose and I said naw I didn't and showed him what happened.

I ejected the first case and closed it and BAM again !!!

He drove me all the way to Wal Mart which was 33 miles away to get my money back !...A.H

Ballbearing · 06-06-2008, 02:48 AM

Funny Ark, i've owned four in my life, and never had one that failed me. I think the world of them, as do many hunters around the world who have converted the tough old bastard to fire everything from .22 long rifle to .458 Winchester magnum. As many of them have served the world's armies, i'm sure you can still find soldiers who would tell you they were darned glad they had one when they needed it. But i understand what a first impression a negative experience like you had could make on a person. And perhaps you weren't fated to be a mauser man. But in my experience i've never known a tougher, more reliable and foolproof design for a rifle. The U.S. Army must have been equally impressed. For they adopted a mauser for service in 1903, under the thinly veiled disguise of the 03' Springfield. And i've heard few people decry that gun. No argument you understand, just an observation, and a slightly different personal experience, and a slightly different point of view.

06-04-2008, 12:20 AM	#1
Ballbearing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Boondocks Posts: 189	My Mauser is all weird and stuff. It's supposed to be Czechloslovokian (apologies to those of Czechloslovokian descent if i spelled that wrong) but it has a superficial stock boo-boo (and i'm a perfectionist) and so i ordered a Czechloslovokian replacement stock and it wouldn't fit. There really are no markings to speak of except the serial number, i was told it originally had nazi markings but that they were ground off the receiver for "export purposes". It functions well enough. It has an oversized stamped metal trigger guard, i assume for use in cold weather areas when youv'e got gloves on. I don't care if it's worth any money, that isn't what i bought it for, but i would like to know it's origins if anyone has any idea, i'm all ears. P.S.: Another weird thing, it also has four sling swivels. One on the passenger side of the stock just aft of the hand guard, one on the bottom of the buttstock in the usual place, and two on the barrel band on the foreward part of the stock one on the bottom and one on the passenger side. Why does it need four sling swivels? Why? Last edited by Ballbearing; 06-04-2008 at 12:27 AM.

06-04-2008, 12:38 AM	#2
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 6,777	GOT PICS? Will help those that can help you a lot. __________________ Things like this just get people fired up. And it really does bring out the worst in people.

06-04-2008, 01:42 AM	#5
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,609 Blog Entries: 15	Here is a link to another forum that has pics. Is this your rifle? Google Image Result for http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p248/tsellati/rearend.jpg __________________ "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."

06-04-2008, 01:56 AM	#10
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 2,609 Blog Entries: 15	Did you look at the writing on the receiver. __________________ "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."

06-04-2008, 02:15 AM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness...Currently in Holiday, Fla. Posts: 11,002 Images: 2	I believe by decription you have a Czechoslovakian Late Model 24(T). It should have a cupped buttplate, A firing pin disassembly disc or Dismounting hole on the buttstock,An oversized trigger guard, may have a slotted buttstock, German type stamped bands, and Modified gas escape holes in the bolt...It would actually be a KAR 98 K in its last production version.... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

06-04-2008, 01:30 AM	#3
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 5,358	if it originally had nazi/german markings, odds are that it is a 98 mauser. what is the distance between the action screws(center to center)?

06-04-2008, 01:51 AM	#7
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 5,358	try remeasuring, there are no mausers with 8" action screw spacing. standard large ring mauser action screws should measure 7.835" center to center.

06-04-2008, 04:02 AM	#14
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness...Currently in Holiday, Fla. Posts: 11,002 Images: 2	Rounded (Cupped) to contour to your shoulder and Not Flat.... Did I describe your rifle Correctly ??? If so, you need a Kar 98K Mauser stock! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

06-04-2008, 12:23 PM	#16
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness...Currently in Holiday, Fla. Posts: 11,002 Images: 2	And why Not ??? __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

06-06-2008, 01:44 AM	#19
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 11,267	I bought a Mauser one time at Wal Mart when I was around 22 to 23 years old. I didn't like the way it fired !!! Ever time you closed the bolt it went BAM !!! (It went off !!!) I couldn't get use to that ! Caused my brother who was up against a Pine tree take'in leak to pee all over himself. Made him so mad and he Frogged me on the Arm and it hurt ~!!! Said I did it on purpose and I said naw I didn't and showed him what happened. I ejected the first case and closed it and BAM again !!! He drove me all the way to Wal Mart which was 33 miles away to get my money back !...A.H Last edited by ArkansasHunter; 06-06-2008 at 01:48 AM.

06-06-2008, 02:48 AM	#20
Ballbearing Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Boondocks Posts: 189	Funny Ark, i've owned four in my life, and never had one that failed me. I think the world of them, as do many hunters around the world who have converted the tough old bastard to fire everything from .22 long rifle to .458 Winchester magnum. As many of them have served the world's armies, i'm sure you can still find soldiers who would tell you they were darned glad they had one when they needed it. But i understand what a first impression a negative experience like you had could make on a person. And perhaps you weren't fated to be a mauser man. But in my experience i've never known a tougher, more reliable and foolproof design for a rifle. The U.S. Army must have been equally impressed. For they adopted a mauser for service in 1903, under the thinly veiled disguise of the 03' Springfield. And i've heard few people decry that gun. No argument you understand, just an observation, and a slightly different personal experience, and a slightly different point of view.