Trying to decide...Mauser or Nagant

[thaddy1978]

Hey, I sold a Nagant a few weeks back with the intention of getting another 91/30, but recently I have been looking at the Yugo Mausers. What are the main differences between 24/47 and M48? And as far as the ballistics go, the Nagant seems to have more power than the 8mm...is that true? Convince me that the Mauser would be a better buy! Still undecided.

[sean46953]

The last ballistics chart that I looked at that showed the 8mm and rhe 7.62x54r together showed that the Mosin's round was actually better. Flys faster farther and hit's a little harder after 100 yards or more, but up to that range they are very close. Design and in alot of cases build quility too, is better with the Mausers. I happen to be a Mosin nut though. It seems to me that in every case I have seen, which ever of the two one first gets, Mauser or Mosin, kinda becomes stuck to likeing the first one more than the other. Kinda like the first hunk of junk car you get, you tend to miss it. lol Mausers do cost more. Anywhere from a little more, to a whole damn lot more. lol If I were you I would look for the best deal on a Mauser and snatch it, then go find myself another great lil Mosin. Just that order cause Mosins will hold the lower end of the cost longer then the Mauser just because how the market is FLOODED still with Mosins. Good luck!

[billy]

i have each .
and some will consider this blasphemy but the mauser is a better rifle.

[texnmidwest]

I don't really know what it is but there is just something inherently appealing to a Mosin and Mosin Collecting. But, I have to agree that the Mauser is much more refined.

Now, where was that ad for the 91/59s again?

[Capt'n Mil Coll]

I have a few of each and IMHO I would say the Mauser is a better manufactured rifle. They just have a more quality look and feel to them. Their actions are a lot smoother. The butt is more comfortable the recoil seems less. 7x57 or 8x57 is still pretty easy to find as is 7.62x54r. No matter which one you get it will most likely be corrosive. I second what Sean said go with the Mauser now the Mosin later.

[thaddy1978]

Originally Posted by sean46953

The last ballistics chart that I looked at that showed the 8mm and rhe 7.62x54r together showed that the Mosin's round was actually better. Flys faster farther and hit's a little harder after 100 yards or more, but up to that range they are very close.

Sean, I think your right...Mausers are probably a little better built. J&G have the 24/47's for a good price...and Mosins will probably not go much higher ($$) in the next few years. Can you point me in the right directions as to where you got your ballistics chart? I looked at one that had the 8mm, but not the 7.62x54. I just like to see it side-by-side.

Another thing, are the mauser's a little easier to scope than the nagant?

[sean46953]

First off, the ballistics chart that I was lookin at was in a book from out lovely little library and I can't remember it off hand, but I'll try to figure out the title soon. As for scope mounting, the Mauser is probably a little easier to mount a scope on to the receiver due to the rear ring of the receiver being solid. Scout mounts wuld probably be just as easy on one as it would be on the other. Don't know for sure though, just guessin really. Like I siad, I'll try to figure out the title of the book with that ballistics chart in it.

[GlockMeister]

Should of kept that Nagant you sold and just gotten a Yugo Mauser. Now my advice would be to buy another Nagant, to replace what you sold and also just go ahead and get a Yugo Mauser.

[SwedeSteve]

I would say your budget will dictate !! Mosin is cheaper, Mauser is real nice but costs more. Really comes down to the wallet.

[Ballbearing]

Originally Posted by billy

i have each .
and some will consider this blasphemy but the mauser is a better rifle.

I have one of each as well. I like them both for different reasons. They each have strengths and weaknesses, but they're also both tough, time and battle tested and have earned their stripes. To tell you the truth, i couldn't begin to tell you which one i like better. Just enjoy whatever you get and take good care of it. And when you go to pick it out, take your time and check it out good and choose wisely. It's almost like taking a wife. You want to make sure you get the right one the first time.

[Mooseman684]

I have several of each ...While the Mausers are a Fine rifle, the Mosins are much easier to strip Completely down and work on ! Each have their Place.

[thaddy1978]

Ya know, I just might buy the Mauser now, and the Nagant later. Money is an issue, seeing how I have an 18 month old and a girl due any day really, so although both a relatively cheap (as far as price), I'll probably get myself some Christmas money and go for a Mosin then. Always looking to build my personal arsenal! Now, what is the difference between the M48 and 24/47? Because I can't afford too much, it'd be one of the Yugo's I'd get.

[acarpenter]

Well, I don't think there really is a huge difference.
M48 has a bent bolt handle, 24/47 is straight.
The 24/47s I have seen have a flat buttplate while the M48s seem to all be cupped.
The sling attaches a bit different on either of them.
The stocks are made of different wood. (24/47 is walnut I believe, M48 is teak)
I'd just say it depends what condition they are both in and the price.
Go for the best value for condition Good luck!
P.S. Both will most likely be covered in cosmoline

[ingous]

If the table was turned and I was in your shoes I would vote for a Mosin and here is why:

Right now seems to be the "Golden Age" of Mosin surplus. There are plenty of them around, in every condition that you may desire or your budget dictates (personally, with three kids I am a "bargain shelf enthusiast"). Seeing one on the shelf is not extremely exciting anymore and you might pass them by checking them out from the corner of your eye. But, you can find great deals right now that MIGHT become more significant investments in 5 to 10 years (again, in my case that would be $300+, you might be in a different position). There is a post on this forum that comments on "the quality of Mosins going down hill" and most people that posted a reply seemed to be in agreement. So right now appears to be the time to get "a nice one" for a fairly small amount of $$$. And that's why I would go for a Mosin right now. Last week I missed a 91/30 with PU mount and scope for $220. That was a great deal and it still hurts. And who knows, in 5 to 10 years I might find the same deal for $550 again and consider it a good one. Now is the time of the Mosin. Just my two cents.

[Niko911]

Id probably go with the mosin nagant if you are going to shoot it because the ammo is cheaper than 8mm and i just love muzzleflash on my mosin lol

[matt760]

i have a mauser now. and i plan on buyin a mosin as soon as i can find one. i like my mauser alot. havnt really shot it much but i love seeing on my gun rack--------i think its almost as long as my truck. mine has very little recoil. and 300 rds of ammo was 70 bucks. the rifle was only 79.99 at a gun show. its a turkish one i think---marked ankara 1936. the bluing is a little worn but hell it was 80 bucks.

so mauser now. then maybe another mosin. or maybe another mauser. or maybe another one of each at the same time. i too am a bargain bin buyer. (i have a little girl too)

[DWARREN123]

I have a M44 M-S and M48 Mauser, I like the Mauser better. Just seems to be a better made rifle to me.

[jimkim]

Originally Posted by billy

i have each .
and some will consider this blasphemy but the mauser is a better rifle.

Not on this thread. don't say it in the Mosin thread. I like the Mauser the best. The Mosin has mystique,which is based on legend. It is in your heart and mind. The Mauser is tangible and its attraction IMO is based in reality. To me it is like comparing a cutlass to a rapier. Both do the same job and both are effective.

[Laufer]

Somewhere on this website it is stated that Mauser 8mm ammo can be found at about the same price as Mosin ammo.
My Bulgarian ammo for the MN 44 (my only Mosin) is about $.18/round (300 for $53), but can not find Mauser 8mm anywhere near this and have never fired nor owned a Mauser.

Samso now lists 7mm Mauser ammo at about $.18/round.

How often do you want to shoot? If cost were to become a major factor, would you rather have a more refined rifle (as everybody reports about Mausers) and possibly shoot it less often, or a durable, equally powerful gun which is more economical to shoot? We're all spending more on gasoline and food etc these days, and it will get worse before too long.

As an investment, the much higher-priced Finnish Mosin could be nice to own (would people seldom shoot this or a good-looking Mauser, being worried about scratches and dents?), but for many people that means less money for ammo.
In my industry, layoffs (and suddenly-numerous small company shutdowns) are happening again due to fuel prices. A friend with handguns, plus a .243, .270 and Colt AR-15, can almost never afford to shoot them due to prices, and he is a 'full-time' teacher. Ironically, he is from Germany and somehow never wanted to pay what a really good German Mauser sells for.

[Capt'n Mil Coll]

Here ya go Sportsmans Guide 8mm Mauser 300 rounds for $116.97. So .39 cents a round. It has gone up a little but still not a bad price.

Or they also have 150 rounds for $59.97. So .40 cents a round.

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A little more than the Mosin rounds in some cases. But certainly still in the general neighborhood.