Mauser question

Hawkeye29 · 07-17-2008, 09:25 PM

Ok, so my older brother has this turkish mauser at the house, and he's gonna let me use it for hunting this year. I know its a 8mm but im not sure if its .323 or .318 cal. He had spray painted it camo so im not sure if i missed anything that would have told me about this.

Also, i really like this gun and im wondering if its worth investing in, and maybe upgrading, like a new stock(i seen one that ATI has that looks decent and has good reviews), but im just a teenager who doesnt have alot of money who really loves guns.

I would appreciate any help, or input i could get.

therifleman · 07-17-2008, 09:28 PM

.323 cal

Hawkeye29 · 07-17-2008, 09:39 PM

ok, so i was just looking at it and its a model 1938, K/Kale made in 1946. I still would like to know if this rifle is worth investing in.

roverboy · 07-18-2008, 01:48 AM

It depends what you want to do. You can spend quite alot on these old rifles . Especially if you pay to have all the work done. A good stock like the ati is a good start. I've got a Turk 38 that I sporterized mostly by myself and I've only got $155.00 in it. It shoots really good. If you want to take it on , go for it.

Hawkeye29 · 07-18-2008, 12:38 PM

Thanks, roverboy, did you also get a new barrel for yours? also will a k98 barrel fit on my m38 turk?(i see all these barrels for sale, but they all say k98, so im not sure)

And my dad has been building flintlocks since he was my age so he knows the "ropes" rifles. And also what would you recommend me to do(with it), but i guess that all has to do with my individual rifle.

Big Dog · 07-18-2008, 06:27 PM

M38 was a 'standard' that many different older Turkish Mausers have been rearsenalled to and the later ones were originally built to - barrels can vary a lot! The Turks USED their Mausers, old and new! They had a lot of wars over there. Some are 'small ring' type, some are 'large ring' type - a good gunsmith may be able to tell which.
Basically, you will need to have the barrel removed from the action, see which type it is, THEN order the new barrel to fit.

It can get expensive to customise an old Mauser, doing it 'right'!

Check out these web sites for Turk Mauser info.....

http://www.turkmauser.com/

Turk Mauser - Large Ring/Small Ring

http://www272.pair.com/stevewag/turk/turkmain.html

Hawkeye29 · 07-18-2008, 06:37 PM

Yeah, thanks big dog, my dad shot down the idea tho. he said since it shoots good now just leave it. He told me to just save up and buy a savage, or rem 700, b/c i would end up with more bang for the buck in the long run.

I really do like that old gun tho.

Full MeTal Jack · 07-18-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye29

Ok, so my older brother has this turkish mauser .......He had spray painted it camo so ........just a teenager who doesnt have alot of money who really loves guns.
I would appreciate any help, or input......

Be like Bubba from East Texas and "Duct tape" it

Red Green would be proud of ya

roverboy · 07-19-2008, 01:30 AM

Hawkeye 29,
I didnt rebarrel . The original barrel is in good shape. I cut in down to 23'' and recrowned. I reworked the stock,bedded the action,freefloated the barrel,did some trigger work, and added a timney safety. I also welded on a new bolt handle. You asked about k98 barrels. Heres where it gets weird. Turk 38's most the time have
small ring barrels. K98 barrels are large ring. You can use any barrel off of a 91,93,94,95,96. These are all small ring. This can be confusing, since a turk 38 is basicly a 98 action. Check out Steve Wagner's web site . He has about anything you want to know about a turk.
Good Shootin
David

Full MeTal Jack · 07-19-2008, 09:35 AM

O Gwad! I hope you get the joke!
That rifle was at a pawn shop for more than a year. It was a complete gooo mess. Picked it up and the glue from the tape stuck to ya. Rifle had a good crown. Bought it for $55. Shoots very good. Restocked it in another turk mil stock.

roverboy · 07-19-2008, 10:51 AM

Ful Metal Jack you got a good deal. Most of the good deals are gone. Sometimes you get lucky. Good Shootin

billcavazos · 08-13-2008, 02:09 PM

Gee, dont invest if its a Turk. Just shoot it they way it is. Dont invest much in the Turk. When your ready and you have money try and find you a good German, CZ, or Swedish Mauser to upgrade.

BOHICA1962 · 08-13-2008, 02:32 PM

I wouldn't "invest" in the Turkish mauser.........I might buy one for a shooter for under $100 if it's in good condition. You'll pay more but get much more buying a Swedish Mauser or a Swiss K31.

I'm not a hunter...........but
I would never go hunting with any rifle until I'd fired it enough to know I could make a clean kill and not have to chase a wounded animal to finish it..........or worse and not find it.

mudslinging79 · 08-15-2008, 10:12 PM

i have the ati scope mount scout stock if interested, used it on a k-kale series turk 8 mm. you would need to get a bent bolt conversion, or just find a bent bolt at the gunshow, on line etc. how does covering shipping work? just sitting there gettin dusty and cant seem to toss it out.

07-17-2008, 09:25 PM	#1
Hawkeye29 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: east coast. Posts: 4	Mauser question Ok, so my older brother has this turkish mauser at the house, and he's gonna let me use it for hunting this year. I know its a 8mm but im not sure if its .323 or .318 cal. He had spray painted it camo so im not sure if i missed anything that would have told me about this. Also, i really like this gun and im wondering if its worth investing in, and maybe upgrading, like a new stock(i seen one that ATI has that looks decent and has good reviews), but im just a teenager who doesnt have alot of money who really loves guns. I would appreciate any help, or input i could get. Last edited by Hawkeye29; 07-17-2008 at 09:28 PM. Reason: spelling

07-17-2008, 09:28 PM	#2
therifleman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: glennville ga Posts: 155 Blog Entries: 2	.323 cal __________________ can't wait t'll winter

07-17-2008, 09:39 PM	#3
Hawkeye29 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: east coast. Posts: 4	ok, so i was just looking at it and its a model 1938, K/Kale made in 1946. I still would like to know if this rifle is worth investing in. Last edited by Hawkeye29; 07-17-2008 at 11:22 PM.

07-18-2008, 12:38 PM	#5
Hawkeye29 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: east coast. Posts: 4	Thanks, roverboy, did you also get a new barrel for yours? also will a k98 barrel fit on my m38 turk?(i see all these barrels for sale, but they all say k98, so im not sure) And my dad has been building flintlocks since he was my age so he knows the "ropes" rifles. And also what would you recommend me to do(with it), but i guess that all has to do with my individual rifle. Last edited by Hawkeye29; 07-18-2008 at 12:47 PM.

07-18-2008, 06:27 PM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,642	M38 was a 'standard' that many different older Turkish Mausers have been rearsenalled to and the later ones were originally built to - barrels can vary a lot! The Turks USED their Mausers, old and new! They had a lot of wars over there. Some are 'small ring' type, some are 'large ring' type - a good gunsmith may be able to tell which. Basically, you will need to have the barrel removed from the action, see which type it is, THEN order the new barrel to fit. It can get expensive to customise an old Mauser, doing it 'right'! Check out these web sites for Turk Mauser info..... http://www.turkmauser.com/ Turk Mauser - Large Ring/Small Ring http://www272.pair.com/stevewag/turk/turkmain.html __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables. Last edited by Big Dog; 07-18-2008 at 06:30 PM. Reason: Added web site info.

07-18-2008, 01:48 AM	#4
roverboy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moss,Tn. Posts: 1,067	It depends what you want to do. You can spend quite alot on these old rifles . Especially if you pay to have all the work done. A good stock like the ati is a good start. I've got a Turk 38 that I sporterized mostly by myself and I've only got $155.00 in it. It shoots really good. If you want to take it on , go for it.

07-18-2008, 06:37 PM	#7
Hawkeye29 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: east coast. Posts: 4	Yeah, thanks big dog, my dad shot down the idea tho. he said since it shoots good now just leave it. He told me to just save up and buy a savage, or rem 700, b/c i would end up with more bang for the buck in the long run. I really do like that old gun tho.

07-19-2008, 01:30 AM	#9
roverboy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moss,Tn. Posts: 1,067	Hawkeye 29, I didnt rebarrel . The original barrel is in good shape. I cut in down to 23'' and recrowned. I reworked the stock,bedded the action,freefloated the barrel,did some trigger work, and added a timney safety. I also welded on a new bolt handle. You asked about k98 barrels. Heres where it gets weird. Turk 38's most the time have small ring barrels. K98 barrels are large ring. You can use any barrel off of a 91,93,94,95,96. These are all small ring. This can be confusing, since a turk 38 is basicly a 98 action. Check out Steve Wagner's web site . He has about anything you want to know about a turk. Good Shootin David

07-19-2008, 09:35 AM	#10
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,574 Images: 6	O Gwad! I hope you get the joke! That rifle was at a pawn shop for more than a year. It was a complete gooo mess. Picked it up and the glue from the tape stuck to ya. Rifle had a good crown. Bought it for $55. Shoots very good. Restocked it in another turk mil stock. __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

07-19-2008, 10:51 AM	#11
roverboy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Moss,Tn. Posts: 1,067	Ful Metal Jack you got a good deal. Most of the good deals are gone. Sometimes you get lucky. Good Shootin

08-13-2008, 02:09 PM	#12
billcavazos Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 25	Gee, dont invest if its a Turk. Just shoot it they way it is. Dont invest much in the Turk. When your ready and you have money try and find you a good German, CZ, or Swedish Mauser to upgrade.

08-13-2008, 02:32 PM	#13
BOHICA1962 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LUBBOCK TEXAS Posts: 293	I wouldn't "invest" in the Turkish mauser.........I might buy one for a shooter for under $100 if it's in good condition. You'll pay more but get much more buying a Swedish Mauser or a Swiss K31. I'm not a hunter...........but I would never go hunting with any rifle until I'd fired it enough to know I could make a clean kill and not have to chase a wounded animal to finish it..........or worse and not find it. Last edited by BOHICA1962; 08-13-2008 at 02:37 PM.

08-15-2008, 10:12 PM	#14
mudslinging79 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: oregon, the new california Posts: 65	i have the ati scope mount scout stock if interested, used it on a k-kale series turk 8 mm. you would need to get a bent bolt conversion, or just find a bent bolt at the gunshow, on line etc. how does covering shipping work? just sitting there gettin dusty and cant seem to toss it out.