Need info on Swede M38 Stock Disc

728shooter · 10-15-2009, 10:08 PM

I just picked up an M-38 "Husky" at a gun show and need some input on the stock disc markings. I'm familiar with the bore measurement marking and the bore condition marking triangles from the Swede M96's that I have but this one has me stumped.
This one has the bore condition triangle marked with the usual 1-2-3 in the standard positions, but instead of having one small "pointer" stamped over one of the numbers, there is a "pointer" stamped over all three numbers! What does this mean? Did the arsenal have a change of heart and re-numbered them all because they couldn't make up their minds? (LOL) The small "pointer" marks are all identical so it must have been stamped that way at the arsenal. I didn't think the Swedes let anything out unless it was at least a "3" (worn but servicable).
Also, the bore sizing triangle has stamps over both the 1 and 2 -- never seen multiple stampings on the discs like this before.
Appreciate any and all input on this -- I'm now wondering if this barrel is shot out and too worn to be accurate. Any comments?

Thanks, --728shooter

PAPA G · 10-16-2009, 11:17 AM

FAQ about Swedish Mauser m/1896, m/1938, Carbine m/1894 and the Ljungman Ag m/42

see if this helps you.

728shooter · 10-16-2009, 11:04 PM

PAPA G, Thanks for the info site on the Swede rifles -- Great information but it didn't really answer my questions. I'm still looking for any info on multiple stampings on the stock disc. If anyone has had any experience or information on this, please let me know.

Thanks, --728shooter

PAPA G · 10-17-2009, 12:20 AM

a picture could help.

Mooseman684 · 10-17-2009, 01:06 AM

When they have multiple markings , it means that they were downgraded when later inspected after use , so it was a 1 first , a 2 later, and finally worn to a 3 !
Rich

SwedeSteve · 10-17-2009, 08:42 AM

^Exactamundo !!

728shooter · 10-17-2009, 08:07 PM

Thanks for the replys, everyone. So it looks like I've got a #3 barrel, which as I recall means that it's pretty well worn but still serviceable (barely). I haven't taken it out to the range to test fire it yet but with this information, now I won't have my hopes up as to accuracy. (I'm also hoping that their criteria for downgrading was much more critical than most other arsenal grading!)

Again, THANKS for all the input on this -- you guys are a wealth of valuable information to people like me. Keep up the good work!

--728shooter

ctreser · 10-18-2009, 10:36 AM

There's nothing wrong with a disk being marked number 3. I have one marked 3 and a couple marked 2. They all shoot extremely well. If you think about it. It has probably been many years sense they were last marked. So I would imagine a lot of ones are really twos now. Twos really threes. You know what I mean. I would not be surprised at all if your rifle shoots very well. Have fun and good shooting.

10-15-2009, 10:08 PM	#1
728shooter Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 57	Need info on Swede M38 Stock Disc I just picked up an M-38 "Husky" at a gun show and need some input on the stock disc markings. I'm familiar with the bore measurement marking and the bore condition marking triangles from the Swede M96's that I have but this one has me stumped. This one has the bore condition triangle marked with the usual 1-2-3 in the standard positions, but instead of having one small "pointer" stamped over one of the numbers, there is a "pointer" stamped over all three numbers! What does this mean? Did the arsenal have a change of heart and re-numbered them all because they couldn't make up their minds? (LOL) The small "pointer" marks are all identical so it must have been stamped that way at the arsenal. I didn't think the Swedes let anything out unless it was at least a "3" (worn but servicable). Also, the bore sizing triangle has stamps over both the 1 and 2 -- never seen multiple stampings on the discs like this before. Appreciate any and all input on this -- I'm now wondering if this barrel is shot out and too worn to be accurate. Any comments? Thanks, --728shooter

10-16-2009, 11:17 AM	#2
PAPA G Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 9,104	FAQ about Swedish Mauser m/1896, m/1938, Carbine m/1894 and the Ljungman Ag m/42 see if this helps you. __________________ if it wasn't for the luck of the Irish, i'd have none at t'all. :lucky:

10-17-2009, 12:20 AM	#4
PAPA G Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 9,104	a picture could help. __________________ if it wasn't for the luck of the Irish, i'd have none at t'all. :lucky:

10-17-2009, 01:06 AM	#5
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,316 Images: 2	When they have multiple markings , it means that they were downgraded when later inspected after use , so it was a 1 first , a 2 later, and finally worn to a 3 ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

10-17-2009, 08:42 AM	#6
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,576 Images: 1	^Exactamundo !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

10-16-2009, 11:04 PM	#3
728shooter Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 57	PAPA G, Thanks for the info site on the Swede rifles -- Great information but it didn't really answer my questions. I'm still looking for any info on multiple stampings on the stock disc. If anyone has had any experience or information on this, please let me know. Thanks, --728shooter

10-17-2009, 08:07 PM	#7
728shooter Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 57	Thanks for the replys, everyone. So it looks like I've got a #3 barrel, which as I recall means that it's pretty well worn but still serviceable (barely). I haven't taken it out to the range to test fire it yet but with this information, now I won't have my hopes up as to accuracy. (I'm also hoping that their criteria for downgrading was much more critical than most other arsenal grading!) Again, THANKS for all the input on this -- you guys are a wealth of valuable information to people like me. Keep up the good work! --728shooter

10-18-2009, 10:36 AM	#8
ctreser Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: swohio Posts: 7	There's nothing wrong with a disk being marked number 3. I have one marked 3 and a couple marked 2. They all shoot extremely well. If you think about it. It has probably been many years sense they were last marked. So I would imagine a lot of ones are really twos now. Twos really threes. You know what I mean. I would not be surprised at all if your rifle shoots very well. Have fun and good shooting.