Swede Target rifle in 308

Full MeTal Jack · 10-25-2009, 10:12 PM

Just picked up this Swede Target rifle in 308. Paid $400 for it. Suspect it was a fair price.
Any info on this type rifle? Can't seem to find anything but the 6.5 target rifle info.
no range report yet

Full MeTal Jack · 10-25-2009, 11:51 PM

bump. any thoughts?

andy* · 10-26-2009, 08:33 AM

Could be a Swede or Norwegian maybe even Danish NRA rifle. After WWII these governments all had shooting organizations and lots of Mausers. Check out THE BOOK OF RIFLES by W.H.B. Smith for more info. Also these rifles were imported in the early '70s made by Carl Gustav, try looking at some late '60s/early'70s GUN DIGEST and SHOOTER'S BIBLE. Good luck, Andy

SwedeSteve · 10-26-2009, 09:10 AM

What does it say on the rifle and sights ?? My tired old eyes tell me a CG63.

wunhunglo · 10-26-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Full MeTal Jack

Just picked up this Swede Target rifle in 308. Paid $400 for it. Suspect it was a fair price.
Any info on this type rifle? Can't seem to find anything but the 6.5 target rifle info.
no range report yet

Well, if it had no sights fitted it would probably cost you $400 to buy a set!!! So looking at things that way, you got a free rifle!

I looks like it's a converted mil-surp mauser judging by what I can see, looks like it has had a stripper guide at one time.

Can we get more pics of the action, bolt, floor-plate and any numbers stamped on it? Also distance between the action screws.

Hopefully it's not shot out and will shoot OK.

Archetype_wyo · 10-26-2009, 09:49 AM

One of the guys at Sports Lure here in town collects Swedish Mausers and he mentioned yesterday up at the range something about one of his CG63...maybe they rebarreled some of these actions for the .308/7.62x51NATO for match grade? Who knows the what for and why is on some of these things I'd say if the barrel is good you got yourself a steal and a half.

Full MeTal Jack · 10-26-2009, 10:57 PM

Did more searching on this variation in 308. NADA.
Did see some talk about not using commercial 308 in 308 barreled M96s. Handloads 10% less.
Rear sight is a Parker Hale PH5C. No markings on front sight.
There are no imports marks on barrel.
Barrel finish matches receivers finnish.
Barrel does has a very small ornate "K" and some other stamp.
The receiver after the serial # is stamped JV 69. Possible date of modification?

Will get better pics with son's camera later

Mooseman684 · 10-27-2009, 12:39 AM

CG 63 and CG 80 Rifles

When Sweden formalized its rules for 300 meter military-civilian matches, a new rifle was developed for competitors, the CG 63 through the Frivilliga skytter relsen.

At the Carl Gustaf factory, a new, heavy, non-stepped barrel was attached to an m/96 or m/38 receiver. The trigger assembly was adjusted and smoothed to match quality. A new beech Monte-Carlo-style stock with identical, if shallow cheekpieces, on either side for right- or left-handed shooters, a pistol grip and a short forend and handguard that allowed the barrel to float, were developed. Match quality adjustable micrometer aperture rear sights from several Swedish manufacturers were installed, as well as the American-made Lyman and Redfield adjustable rear sights, although these latter appear to have been added by the owners. Hooded front sights with interchangeable inserts were added to the new barrel. The distinctive vertical thumbpiece was removed from the bolt to increase lock time. The rifle, which averaged 4.6 kg (10.14 lbs), was available in both 6.5 x 55 mm, 7.62 x 51 mm NATO and .22 rimfire calibers. The military match versions were designated m/6 in 6.5 x 55 mm and the m/7 in 7.62 x 51 NATO. The m/6 military version was equipped with a short cleaning rod beneath the barrel.

The CG 80 is an improved version of the CG 63. It featured a new beech-wood stock that also included a pistol grip, Monte-Carlo-style cheekpieces and a short forend. The CG 80 did not have a handguard. It did have an aluminum rail inletted into the bottom of the forend to allow the attachment of an adjustable sling.

Rich

jimkim · 10-27-2009, 03:29 AM

It looks like a CG63 in 7.62x51mm to me.

Full MeTal Jack · 10-27-2009, 11:29 PM

Thanks Mooseman, Jimkin and everyone else.
Moose with the additional info from By Steve Kehaya and Joe Poyer now it's a GC 80 for sure. It was driving me crazyier trying to find out what it actually was. Maybe doing searches should have included "7.62x51" instead of 308.
This one doesnot have the inletted aluminum rail in forarm.
Jimkin, that's exactly what she looks like but it has the PH 5C rear sight.
Planning to go to range Thursday 10-29 if it doesn't rain.

SwedeSteve · 10-31-2009, 12:10 AM

Glad you solved the mystery !! I don't know much about the "80", so I am glad others did.

10-25-2009, 10:12 PM	#1
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,914 Images: 6	Swede Target rifle in 308 Just picked up this Swede Target rifle in 308. Paid $400 for it. Suspect it was a fair price. Any info on this type rifle? Can't seem to find anything but the 6.5 target rifle info. no range report yet __________________ Guns and cameras don't mix

10-25-2009, 11:51 PM	#2
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,914 Images: 6	bump. any thoughts? __________________ Guns and cameras don't mix

10-26-2009, 08:33 AM	#3
andy* Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Everson Wa Posts: 142	Could be a Swede or Norwegian maybe even Danish NRA rifle. After WWII these governments all had shooting organizations and lots of Mausers. Check out THE BOOK OF RIFLES by W.H.B. Smith for more info. Also these rifles were imported in the early '70s made by Carl Gustav, try looking at some late '60s/early'70s GUN DIGEST and SHOOTER'S BIBLE. Good luck, Andy __________________ Follow me, I am the Infantry. Last edited by andy; 10-26-2009 at 08:38 AM. Reason: just remembered*

10-26-2009, 09:10 AM	#4
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,549 Images: 1	What does it say on the rifle and sights ?? My tired old eyes tell me a CG63. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers Last edited by SwedeSteve; 10-26-2009 at 09:19 AM.

10-26-2009, 09:49 AM	#6
Archetype_wyo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Buffalo, Wyo Posts: 1,731	One of the guys at Sports Lure here in town collects Swedish Mausers and he mentioned yesterday up at the range something about one of his CG63...maybe they rebarreled some of these actions for the .308/7.62x51NATO for match grade? Who knows the what for and why is on some of these things I'd say if the barrel is good you got yourself a steal and a half. __________________ The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able may have a gun. —Patrick Henry

10-26-2009, 10:57 PM	#7
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,914 Images: 6	Did more searching on this variation in 308. NADA. Did see some talk about not using commercial 308 in 308 barreled M96s. Handloads 10% less. Rear sight is a Parker Hale PH5C. No markings on front sight. There are no imports marks on barrel. Barrel finish matches receivers finnish. Barrel does has a very small ornate "K" and some other stamp. The receiver after the serial # is stamped JV 69. Possible date of modification? Will get better pics with son's camera later __________________ Guns and cameras don't mix
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10-27-2009, 12:39 AM	#8
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 11,305 Images: 2	CG 63 and CG 80 Rifles When Sweden formalized its rules for 300 meter military-civilian matches, a new rifle was developed for competitors, the CG 63 through the Frivilliga skytter relsen. At the Carl Gustaf factory, a new, heavy, non-stepped barrel was attached to an m/96 or m/38 receiver. The trigger assembly was adjusted and smoothed to match quality. A new beech Monte-Carlo-style stock with identical, if shallow cheekpieces, on either side for right- or left-handed shooters, a pistol grip and a short forend and handguard that allowed the barrel to float, were developed. Match quality adjustable micrometer aperture rear sights from several Swedish manufacturers were installed, as well as the American-made Lyman and Redfield adjustable rear sights, although these latter appear to have been added by the owners. Hooded front sights with interchangeable inserts were added to the new barrel. The distinctive vertical thumbpiece was removed from the bolt to increase lock time. The rifle, which averaged 4.6 kg (10.14 lbs), was available in both 6.5 x 55 mm, 7.62 x 51 mm NATO and .22 rimfire calibers. The military match versions were designated m/6 in 6.5 x 55 mm and the m/7 in 7.62 x 51 NATO. The m/6 military version was equipped with a short cleaning rod beneath the barrel. The CG 80 is an improved version of the CG 63. It featured a new beech-wood stock that also included a pistol grip, Monte-Carlo-style cheekpieces and a short forend. The CG 80 did not have a handguard. It did have an aluminum rail inletted into the bottom of the forend to allow the attachment of an adjustable sling. Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!
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10-27-2009, 03:29 AM	#9
jimkim Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Near the Little Ocmulgee river in GA Posts: 4,257 Blog Entries: 18	It looks like a CG63 in 7.62x51mm to me. __________________ If I am not for myself, who will be for me? If I am only for myself, what am I? Rabbi Hillel
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10-27-2009, 11:29 PM	#10
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,914 Images: 6	Thanks Mooseman, Jimkin and everyone else. Moose with the additional info from By Steve Kehaya and Joe Poyer now it's a GC 80 for sure. It was driving me crazyier trying to find out what it actually was. Maybe doing searches should have included "7.62x51" instead of 308. This one doesnot have the inletted aluminum rail in forarm. Jimkin, that's exactly what she looks like but it has the PH 5C rear sight. Planning to go to range Thursday 10-29 if it doesn't rain. __________________ Guns and cameras don't mix Last edited by Full MeTal Jack; 10-27-2009 at 11:32 PM.

10-31-2009, 12:10 AM	#11
SwedeSteve Suspected Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Anchortown, Alaska Posts: 23,549 Images: 1	Glad you solved the mystery !! I don't know much about the "80", so I am glad others did. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers