it just wont stop!!

k-80 · 01-10-2010, 12:53 PM

i have posted some topics about my 98k b4 and i have cleaned cleaned and cleaned it for hours and hours and hours. i get clean patches and run an oil parche then put it in my gun cabinet. i pulle it out a few weeks later an i got some green liquid on the bolt face and i get green blu patches out of it!! how do i stop the frggin corrosion?!?!?! i have had this happen 3 times

cheapblaster · 01-10-2010, 01:32 PM

I'm not sure your barrel is corroding. Green to blue-green patches are evidence of copper fouling being removed. Sometimes after letting the barrel sit for a while a layer of copper will come loose and show up on your patches. I have let Hoppe's #9 sit in a barrel for several days and got just what you posted - blue-green patches. What oil or product are you using for your final patch before putting away the gun? As to how long this will go on, that's anybody's guess, it depends on how much copper is inside the barrel.

Is there any visible pitting growing in your barrel? That is evidence of corrosion. That should not be happening in a cleaned, oiled barrel.

Hope this helps.

wyoman · 01-10-2010, 01:33 PM

I shoot corrosive ammo through my mausers all the time. I use Wipe-Out bore foam. Fill the bore, set it in the cleaning carriage with the muzzle tilted downward, let it sit for 20 to 30 minutes, and then run dry patches through until they come out clean, then 2 passes with an oily patch, then dry patches till they come out clean, then 2 more passes with an oily patch, then dry patches again till they come out clean. Cleaning rod time of about 15 minutes, and I've let them set for months with no problems.

ArkansasHunter · 01-10-2010, 01:37 PM

Becareful useing Amonia base cleaner's. If you allow this type to stay in a barrel for a prolong period it will get in the barrel pores and be corrosive.

wyoman · 01-10-2010, 01:38 PM

Wipe-Out has no ammonia.

k-80 · 01-10-2010, 01:42 PM

i use remoil as my final patch. for cleaning i have used breakfree, rem oil , brass brushes ,brasso, hopps#9 ,and hopps benchrest formula made to remove copper, otis elite cleaner, 3in1 cleaner and windex and lastly foaming bore scrubber. i have not shot the gun yet this is its first cleaning sense the war i think. im looking into getting some jb bore bright and finishing compound stuff. i think it is slight pitting, when i look down the barrel i can see varry vary shallow divits in the groves but none on the lands. im glad that its probably not corrosin. now just to remove all of the copper.

wyoman · 01-10-2010, 01:44 PM

Copper comes out blue with the foam and Hoppe's.

k-80 · 01-10-2010, 01:45 PM

what about kroil? plug the muzzle and let it sit for 24hrs

gamehunter · 01-10-2010, 02:38 PM

Definitely give it the JB bore paste treatment I had to do that with a mauser I got that was totally filthty especially after I almost went through a can of gunslick bore foam trying to remove the copper fouling.

k-80 · 01-10-2010, 03:16 PM

ok i think im gonna try that. aprox. how many fmj rounds does it take to get a large copper deposit like this?

gandog56 · 01-10-2010, 08:38 PM

Too many variables. What weight bullets you firing. What is the velocity. No easy answer for that question.

Kaybe · 01-11-2010, 10:08 AM

Be sure your Mauser isn't hanging around some of those nasty Mosin Nagant rifles in your cabinet. Those nasty Mosins could have given your Mauser some type of disease.

k-80 · 01-11-2010, 03:03 PM

gandog56. its whatever the nazi troops were issued after 1939. it has not been fired after that to my knowledge,the gun has been in the family sense it was brought back.
kaybe, sadly it does not have a mauser buddy to hang with. only a mosin 10/22 and some shotguns.im working on gettin another tho.

Super Toaster · 01-11-2010, 03:15 PM

HEY! My Mauser's arnt sick and they share a cabnet with what.... 7 Mosins but I do have to break up fights

And on cleaning rifles my dad wanted to try some parts cleaner in the barrel but I said no. Like I've read on here and what some of my grandpas friends have told me, sometimes a slightly dirty barrel is more accurate then a clean 1 just make sure it isn't corrosive dirty.

killsnapz · 01-11-2010, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaybe

Be sure your Mauser isn't hanging around some of those nasty Mosin Nagant rifles in your cabinet. Those nasty Mosins could have given your Mauser some type of disease.

Its called Mosinitis and it is very contagious so be wary! My poor Mauser has to sleep with 2 M39's and a 91/30! I whish Mausers were avalible for 90 bucks online.

Michael

01-10-2010, 12:53 PM	#1
k-80 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 490	it just wont stop!! i have posted some topics about my 98k b4 and i have cleaned cleaned and cleaned it for hours and hours and hours. i get clean patches and run an oil parche then put it in my gun cabinet. i pulle it out a few weeks later an i got some green liquid on the bolt face and i get green blu patches out of it!! how do i stop the frggin corrosion?!?!?! i have had this happen 3 times __________________ if guns can kill people, then i can blame misspelled words on my pencil

01-10-2010, 01:37 PM	#4
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas. Posts: 18,395	Becareful useing Amonia base cleaner's. If you allow this type to stay in a barrel for a prolong period it will get in the barrel pores and be corrosive. __________________ IN GOD WE TRUST NRA MEMBER

01-10-2010, 01:42 PM	#6
k-80 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 490	i use remoil as my final patch. for cleaning i have used breakfree, rem oil , brass brushes ,brasso, hopps#9 ,and hopps benchrest formula made to remove copper, otis elite cleaner, 3in1 cleaner and windex and lastly foaming bore scrubber. i have not shot the gun yet this is its first cleaning sense the war i think. im looking into getting some jb bore bright and finishing compound stuff. i think it is slight pitting, when i look down the barrel i can see varry vary shallow divits in the groves but none on the lands. im glad that its probably not corrosin. now just to remove all of the copper. __________________ if guns can kill people, then i can blame misspelled words on my pencil

01-10-2010, 01:45 PM	#8
k-80 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 490	what about kroil? plug the muzzle and let it sit for 24hrs __________________ if guns can kill people, then i can blame misspelled words on my pencil

01-10-2010, 03:16 PM	#10
k-80 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 490	ok i think im gonna try that. aprox. how many fmj rounds does it take to get a large copper deposit like this? __________________ if guns can kill people, then i can blame misspelled words on my pencil

01-10-2010, 01:32 PM	#2
cheapblaster Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SF Bay area, California Posts: 776	I'm not sure your barrel is corroding. Green to blue-green patches are evidence of copper fouling being removed. Sometimes after letting the barrel sit for a while a layer of copper will come loose and show up on your patches. I have let Hoppe's #9 sit in a barrel for several days and got just what you posted - blue-green patches. What oil or product are you using for your final patch before putting away the gun? As to how long this will go on, that's anybody's guess, it depends on how much copper is inside the barrel. Is there any visible pitting growing in your barrel? That is evidence of corrosion. That should not be happening in a cleaned, oiled barrel. Hope this helps.

01-10-2010, 01:33 PM	#3
wyoman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wyoman lives between the mountains and the rolling hills covered in sage brush Posts: 207	I shoot corrosive ammo through my mausers all the time. I use Wipe-Out bore foam. Fill the bore, set it in the cleaning carriage with the muzzle tilted downward, let it sit for 20 to 30 minutes, and then run dry patches through until they come out clean, then 2 passes with an oily patch, then dry patches till they come out clean, then 2 more passes with an oily patch, then dry patches again till they come out clean. Cleaning rod time of about 15 minutes, and I've let them set for months with no problems.

01-10-2010, 01:38 PM	#5
wyoman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wyoman lives between the mountains and the rolling hills covered in sage brush Posts: 207	Wipe-Out has no ammonia.

01-10-2010, 01:44 PM	#7
wyoman Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Wyoman lives between the mountains and the rolling hills covered in sage brush Posts: 207	Copper comes out blue with the foam and Hoppe's.

01-10-2010, 02:38 PM	#9
gamehunter Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 422 Blog Entries: 2	Definitely give it the JB bore paste treatment I had to do that with a mauser I got that was totally filthty especially after I almost went through a can of gunslick bore foam trying to remove the copper fouling.

01-10-2010, 08:38 PM	#11
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 13,897	Too many variables. What weight bullets you firing. What is the velocity. No easy answer for that question. __________________ People think I'm paranoid because I own guns. If I own guns, what do I have to be paranoid about?

01-11-2010, 10:08 AM	#12
Kaybe Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Northcentral Ohio Posts: 953	Be sure your Mauser isn't hanging around some of those nasty Mosin Nagant rifles in your cabinet. Those nasty Mosins could have given your Mauser some type of disease. __________________ "It's a Mister Grimm, something about the reaping."

01-11-2010, 03:03 PM	#13
k-80 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 490	gandog56. its whatever the nazi troops were issued after 1939. it has not been fired after that to my knowledge,the gun has been in the family sense it was brought back. kaybe, sadly it does not have a mauser buddy to hang with. only a mosin 10/22 and some shotguns.im working on gettin another tho. __________________ if guns can kill people, then i can blame misspelled words on my pencil

01-11-2010, 03:15 PM	#14
Super Toaster Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 258	HEY! My Mauser's arnt sick and they share a cabnet with what.... 7 Mosins but I do have to break up fights And on cleaning rifles my dad wanted to try some parts cleaner in the barrel but I said no. Like I've read on here and what some of my grandpas friends have told me, sometimes a slightly dirty barrel is more accurate then a clean 1 just make sure it isn't corrosive dirty.