I am west of the cities about 50 miles. I meet with guys at famous daves for lunch and show them where the gun stop is (gun store with lots of neat stuff, I bought a Win. mod 52 there and a S&W 52 also. My friends found a 1917 revolver in 45 acp and a S&W victory model almost like new.) The Famous Daves I am talking about is on Hi way 7 a little west of the 494 exits.