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Old 12-30-2011, 10:21 AM   #1
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Mosin Modifications that even a Purist can Love

Let me start this thread by confessing that I am a 'Mosin Purist'. - I do not modify my Mosins much further than a little trigger and bedding work. That said, I have been a long time G&G member that has recognized several ingenious modifications that are worthy of mention. ALL of these are easy to remove and the rifle can easily be brought back to the original configuration. This also means that the mods can esily be transferred to another rifle.

In other words, IF I, the 'Purist' were to sporterize or improve my Mosin, this is where I would start pretty much in this order.

#1 Front post extension.
http://www.crsurplusspring.com/frontpostext.html
Many Mosins are plagued with sights that make the bullet impact too high at short range. (I really don't know why the Soviet quality control was so slack in this important area)
Sure, you MIGHT find something around the house or the hardware store that will do the same thing, but Clyde has the perfect answer for a few bucks.

#2 Trigger slack spring
http://www.crsurplusspring.com/SlackSpring.html
Most Mosins have triggers that flop around- very annoying and potentially dangerous in a hunting rifle with a light trigger. Clyde improved on the Finn M28 'mousetrap' trigger spring design to bring us this very worthwhile mod. The slack spring not only keeps the trigger from flopping back and forth, but transforms the trigger to a classic 2-stage. Highly recommended mod.

#3 Trigger improvements
http://www.crsurplusspring.com/FinnSear.html
Anyone who has pulled the trigger on a variety of Mosins can relate to some having an incredibly hard trigger pull. In my mind, a trigger in the 4-5# range is achievable and safe. This can be accomplished by dressing up the sear and cocking piece. The sear is the most critical and Clyde is currently offering modified sears from Finland. Sure, you CAN do the work yourself, but for this price, why bother. I just hope he can continue to offer these after his Finn connection runs out.

#4 Improved front sights
Josh Smith-Sights for the Mosin-Nagant
If I was hunting with a Mosin with the original iron sights, a high visibilty front sight would be invaluable. Josh has done a great job offering a variety of front posts to fill the need. In fact, I would challenge anyone who is contemplating scoping a Mosin to try one of Josh's sights first.
For the target shooter, a narrower front post allows for finer sight alignment. Josh has that too.

#5 No drill and tap Scope Mounts
Jmeck Scope Mounts
Jmeck offers a variety of mounts with his ingeneous band mounting system. The Jmeck mounts do not require the side of the stock to be cut out, but may require a little relief to the stock on the sides of the action or a little bedding work on the bottom of the action- both would not detract too much from returning the rifle to the original configuration.
For those that MUST mount a scope on that pet Finn tackdriver, Jmeck is the only way to go.

#6 Bent bolt
The original straight bolt handle is awkward to operate and most scopes require that a bent handle be used. The classic sniper bolt handle is longer and easier to operate- even if you are using iron sights.
There are several people who offer bolt bending services.
Max Shepherd
Jim the Bolt Man
Important- If your rifle has a matching serial number, PLEASE buy a body that is already modified and keep your original. The bolt body is fairly easy to install if you have the tool that comes with most refurbished Mosins.
Since the Mosin headspace is dependent on the bolthead, you can swap the body without worry. This is contrary to almost all other bolt action rifles.

#7 Cheek pad
There are several people who offer the cheek pads.
Can somebody provide links to your favorites?
Blackhawk Rifle Cheek Pad
If you have ever fired a Mosin sniper rifle, the first problem you have is getting a cheek weld to the stock. We sold our reproduction PU sniper just because of this issue. I wish that we had tried one of these first.

#8 Ring safety
There are several people who offer the ring safety.
Max Shepherd
The Mosin does indeed have a safety that works OK, but is less than ideal. The ring modification makes the safety work just like the Swiss rifles. Pull back with one finger and turn. If you hunt with your Mosin, the ring safety would be highly recommended. For the plinker or target shooter, I wouldn't bother.

#9 Firing pin springs
http://www.crsurplusspring.com/SSfiringpinspring.html
The original springs on Mosins are decades old and many are not as strong as they should be. When Mosins are stored, the bolts SHOULD be de-cocked to relieve the tension on the main (or firing pin) spring. This is seldom done, even in those crates of refurbed Mosins.
If your spring is weak and doesn't fire that old surplus ammo, first check the firing pin protrusion and second, replace the spring.
I see no reason to take a chance on an original spring when Clyde offers these new springs at a very reasonable price.

I hope this list helps those who are contemplating improving your Mosin.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:27 AM   #2
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Max Shepherd Bolt Products & Services for the Mosin Nagant Rifles

Bruce at Max Shepherd does both bent handled bolts and ring safeties. I have a bolt he did both mods on and highly reccomend his work.
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Max Shepherd Bolt Products & Services for the Mosin Nagant Rifles

Bruce at Max Shepherd does both bent handled bolts and ring safeties. I have a bolt he did both mods on and highly reccomend his work.
Plus 1! Bruce does awesome work!
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Here's a link for The Boltman, who has an excellent reputation for Mosin nagant bolt work in a variety of styles.

Bent bolts for the Mosin Nagant and Mauser rifles
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Thanks for the links guys, that's just what I needed.

I see both Max Shepherd and Jim the Bolt Man offer to send parts already in stock. Perfect for those wishing to retain the originals. And not have the trouble and expense of sending your old parts.
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This is sticky material! Thanks, Ken!
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Max Shepherd Bolt Products & Services for the Mosin Nagant Rifles

Bruce at Max Shepherd does both bent handled bolts and ring safeties. I have a bolt he did both mods on and highly reccomend his work.
Ultra fast turn around time.
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For cheek pieces, very nice leather work and a great guy. He does this as a hobby, so his work is top notch. Thirty dollars for a leather cheek piece with a removable riser? I don't think anyone can shake a stick at that. Even shipped to me before I shipped payment, very friendly as well. I recommend him 100%
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The Mosin factory front pin height, is not a "slack" Soviet quality control issue. they did their job.
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The Mosin factory front pin height, is not a "slack" Soviet quality control issue. they did their job.
I respectfully disagree. Unless you mean that the workers were only expected to put sights on the rifle and not zero them. THEN I will agree.

Refurbished Mosins have front sight heighths (and consequently bullet impact) all over the place. It was like they just grabbed one out of the bin and installed it.

This is also confirmed by the windage being off. I have had some Mosins where the bullet impact was a foot off to the side of the target at 100 yards. Incredible! At least get it half way close guys. Sheesh!

My Finn rifles were a totally different story. All of them were zeroed quite close.
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S & K Scope Mounts Home Page - rifle scope, scope mounts, Insta-Mount, SKulptured Mounts

If you want to put a scout scope on that Finn, these mounts work great and are completely reversible.
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I respectfully disagree. Unless you mean that the workers were only expected to put sights on the rifle and not zero them. THEN I will agree.

Refurbished Mosins have front sight heighths (and consequently bullet impact) all over the place. It was like they just grabbed one out of the bin and installed it.

This is also confirmed by the windage being off. I have had some Mosins where the bullet impact was a foot off to the side of the target at 100 yards. Incredible! At least get it half way close guys. Sheesh!

My Finn rifles were a totally different story. All of them were zeroed quite close.

You try rebuilding a gun that has been rebuilt ten times over with parts salvaged from other guns that have been rebuilt ten times over.
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I respectfully disagree. Unless you mean that the workers were only expected to put sights on the rifle and not zero them. THEN I will agree.

Refurbished Mosins have front sight heighths (and consequently bullet impact) all over the place. It was like they just grabbed one out of the bin and installed it.

This is also confirmed by the windage being off. I have had some Mosins where the bullet impact was a foot off to the side of the target at 100 yards. Incredible! At least get it half way close guys. Sheesh!

My Finn rifles were a totally different story. All of them were zeroed quite close.
they were sighted in for 300 meters. most battles were at that distance and greater. all a Low Brow Russian peasant had to do was hold center mass from 50 yard or greater and he had himself a dead Nazi. I would hope it hits high at 100 yards. and try one that hits left with the bayo attached and let me know if it still shoots left.

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Shot my 91/30 today, it hits 4 inches left at 100, tried the bayonet thing and it still shot 4 inches left.
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they were sighted in for 300 meters. most battles were at that distance and greater. all a Low Brow Russian peasant had to do was hold center mass from 50 yard or greater and he had himself a dead Nazi. I would hope it hits high at 100 yards. and try one that hits left with the bayo attached and let me know if it still shoots left.
M38s don't use bayonets.

I have one that needs the rear sight set at 250 meters to zero at 100 yds.
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Gunny, we're not talking a couple inches here. A 300m zero with light or heavy ball should be MAYBE 4-5" high at 100. We're talking FEET here. Ken's right; the Russians apparently picked whatever parts their hands got hold of first. Unlike the Finns which used the same pieces. A good simile would be a Chip Foose Model A (Finn) against the same car refurbished by the Brits on Wheeler Dealers (refurb 91/30).
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Shot my 91/30 today, it hits 4 inches left at 100, tried the bayonet thing and it still shot 4 inches left.
the bayonet only effects poi on m44's.
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the bayonet only effects poi on m44's.
I keep saying that, and they keep arguing that all of them were sighted in with them fixed, yadda yadda yadda...you know, the age old argument.
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I keep saying that, and they keep arguing that all of them were sighted in with them fixed, yadda yadda yadda...you know, the age old argument.
Well, I didn't believe it, until I tried it. One of my M44's shot 10" to the left at 100 yards with the bayonet folded. I extended it, and my first shot was a bullseye. I haven't tried that on my other one.

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I have a question on the Max Shepard bolts, I have noticed a lot of these bolts have the numbers removed. Can they do these and leave the numbers alone? I would like to have the numbers still on the bolt if I ever decide to do this.
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