Well hell....

NRAJOE · 09-26-2003, 02:29 PM

Whipped out the credit card and got a Mosin Nagant M38 in excellent condition from SOG! Was $99.95, marked down to $69.95 this month.Now on top of buying 7.62x39 ammo, I gotta buy 7.62x54 when I go to Cabela's!

JAMES · 09-26-2003, 03:52 PM

Bummer!
Don't sound like hell to me, Joe.

Congratulations on the new addition to your family. Great rifle, great price, great muzzle flash, great times.......

PAPA G · 09-26-2003, 04:12 PM

congrats on the mosin!!! and you will find the sights are straight too!!! Stalin had a plan for those that put on crooked sights

Dale · 09-26-2003, 04:43 PM

Great find, Joe.

ONLY trouble is........they have a habit of multiplying.

SPOCAHP ANAR · 09-26-2003, 04:56 PM

I swear that looks like an M44

09-26-2003, 05:20 PM

Congrats..it does look like an M44

Dale · 09-26-2003, 05:25 PM

The 44s I've seen, including what I have, have a 'permanent' bayonet affixed.

I've also noticed that the 38s generally are lighter colored stocks (like what Joe posted) and the 44 is a darker colored stock...why? I'm not sure. Although I suspect it has to do with the time frame when the 44s and 38s hit the scene.

At any rate there is little difference between the 38 and 44 including the difference in length.

The 91/30 has a detachable bayonet that won't fit on my 38.

They are great rifles and sure are an attention getter at the range.

NRAJOE · 09-26-2003, 05:26 PM

All I can tell the difference is M38's have no side folding bayonet. Next month I want to get the Hungarian M44 with the bayo...been wanting this type of rifle for awhile. Theys already multiplying in my mind!

NRAJOE · 09-26-2003, 05:29 PM

3rd rifle down....

http://www.southernohiogun.com/surplus_rifles.html

jerry · 09-26-2003, 05:42 PM

Nice, nice.
Of course, the first thing to pop up is my Yugo that's on layaway!

PAPA G · 09-26-2003, 05:46 PM

by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. late in WWII the bayonette was added to the barrel. they are neat!!! now you need to get the M-91/30 with all the goodies. i can just picture NRAJOESKI leading the bayonet charge at the next pig roast!!!

NRAJOE · 09-26-2003, 06:28 PM

Yeah, I was looking at that long arse rifle...I'm 5'8", the things probably taller than me!

NRAJOE · 09-26-2003, 06:31 PM

I'll have to study on these too! :right:

http://www.surplusrifle.com/carbinenagant/index.asp

Big Dog · 09-26-2003, 06:47 PM

Nice M38, Joe! Hold on tight and roll with the punch - these puppies pack a wallop.
My unissued M44 has a similar "Blonde" stock - as did the whole table-full the vendor had when I bought it.
Dang! Now I'm hankering to get a 38 myself, along with one of those German K98's. There goes this payday's gun money!

NRAJOE · 09-26-2003, 07:01 PM

Yup, got a hankering to buy a gun today. Headed for the gunstore, turned around twice and went home. Was afraid of spending too much money if I found a lonely AK there. Figured I hadn't used the C&R in awhile and you can't go wrong with the price...better than blowing $300-$400 bucks!

09-26-2003, 07:10 PM

I bought a nickle plated High Standard .22 magnum double action derringer complete with a Safariland holster

NRAJOE · 09-27-2003, 05:16 AM

You go to that one in Dundee TC?

NRAJOE · 10-01-2003, 01:20 AM

Name the oldest and only rifle still in worldwide use in its original un-modified design using its originally chambered cartridge? The Mosin Nagant Rifle is the answer. since 1891

What Russian rifle did the United States use during World War 1 in training camps and to arm the National Guard? The Mosin Nagant Rifle is the answer.

Name the one cartridge that has not changed since 1891 and is still a performer in comparison to the modern .308/7.62 NATO cartridge? The 7.62x54R

What nations have exclusively used the .30 caliber/7.62 bullet diameter from 1891 to the present? The United States and Russia

Has the Mosin Nagant ever been chambered for a different cartridge than 7.62x54Rmm? Yes, Poland, successfully barreled and chambered their surplus MN rifle's to 8x57mm in the 1920's. Note: a commercial chambering to 30/06 was attempted by the company Bannermans in the USA, this 30/06 conversion is considered unsafe today because of poor workmanship.

JAMES · 10-01-2003, 07:27 AM

Folks.......I'm afraid that our Moderator has it bad......Let us all grab our nearest Mosin and observe 7.62 seconds of silence on Joe's behalf.....(I was going to add 54 pushups to that ordeal, but decided to go eat breakfast instead!)

jerry · 10-01-2003, 08:38 AM

how about 54 12oz curls instead?

09-26-2003, 04:12 PM	#3
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	MY MAN, POTS AND PANS!!! congrats on the mosin!!! and you will find the sights are straight too!!! Stalin had a plan for those that put on crooked sights

09-26-2003, 04:43 PM	#4
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	Great find, Joe. ONLY trouble is........they have a habit of multiplying. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

09-26-2003, 04:56 PM	#5
SPOCAHP ANAR Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SC-upstate Posts: 4,094 Images: 3 Blog Entries: 4	I swear that looks like an M44 __________________ Spocrest Out!..........

09-26-2003, 05:25 PM	#7
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	The 44s I've seen, including what I have, have a 'permanent' bayonet affixed. I've also noticed that the 38s generally are lighter colored stocks (like what Joe posted) and the 44 is a darker colored stock...why? I'm not sure. Although I suspect it has to do with the time frame when the 44s and 38s hit the scene. At any rate there is little difference between the 38 and 44 including the difference in length. The 91/30 has a detachable bayonet that won't fit on my 38. They are great rifles and sure are an attention getter at the range. __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me Last edited by Dale; 09-26-2003 at 05:28 PM.

09-26-2003, 05:26 PM	#8
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,051 Images: 3	All I can tell the difference is M38's have no side folding bayonet. Next month I want to get the Hungarian M44 with the bayo...been wanting this type of rifle for awhile. Theys already multiplying in my mind! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

09-26-2003, 03:52 PM	#2
JAMES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 575	Bummer! Don't sound like hell to me, Joe. Congratulations on the new addition to your family. Great rifle, great price, great muzzle flash, great times.......

09-26-2003, 05:20 PM	#6
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	Congrats..it does look like an M44

09-26-2003, 05:29 PM	#9
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,051 Images: 3	3rd rifle down.... http://www.southernohiogun.com/surplus_rifles.html __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

09-26-2003, 05:42 PM	#10
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,875 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	Nice, nice. Of course, the first thing to pop up is my Yugo that's on layaway! __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck

09-26-2003, 05:46 PM	#11
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12	THE m-38 WAS ADOPTED PREWAR by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. late in WWII the bayonette was added to the barrel. they are neat!!! now you need to get the M-91/30 with all the goodies. i can just picture NRAJOESKI leading the bayonet charge at the next pig roast!!!

09-26-2003, 06:28 PM	#12
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,051 Images: 3	Yeah, I was looking at that long arse rifle...I'm 5'8", the things probably taller than me! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

09-26-2003, 06:31 PM	#13
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,051 Images: 3	I'll have to study on these too! :right: http://www.surplusrifle.com/carbinenagant/index.asp __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany Last edited by NRAJOE; 09-26-2003 at 06:35 PM.

09-26-2003, 06:47 PM	#14
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,213	Nice M38, Joe! Hold on tight and roll with the punch - these puppies pack a wallop. My unissued M44 has a similar "Blonde" stock - as did the whole table-full the vendor had when I bought it. Dang! Now I'm hankering to get a 38 myself, along with one of those German K98's. There goes this payday's gun money! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

09-26-2003, 07:01 PM	#15
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,051 Images: 3	Yup, got a hankering to buy a gun today. Headed for the gunstore, turned around twice and went home. Was afraid of spending too much money if I found a lonely AK there. Figured I hadn't used the C&R in awhile and you can't go wrong with the price...better than blowing $300-$400 bucks! __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

09-26-2003, 07:10 PM	#16
Logansdad Guest Posts: n/a	I bought a nickle plated High Standard .22 magnum double action derringer complete with a Safariland holster

09-27-2003, 05:16 AM	#17
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,051 Images: 3	You go to that one in Dundee TC? __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-01-2003, 01:20 AM	#18
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,051 Images: 3	Name the oldest and only rifle still in worldwide use in its original un-modified design using its originally chambered cartridge? The Mosin Nagant Rifle is the answer. since 1891 What Russian rifle did the United States use during World War 1 in training camps and to arm the National Guard? The Mosin Nagant Rifle is the answer. Name the one cartridge that has not changed since 1891 and is still a performer in comparison to the modern .308/7.62 NATO cartridge? The 7.62x54R What nations have exclusively used the .30 caliber/7.62 bullet diameter from 1891 to the present? The United States and Russia Has the Mosin Nagant ever been chambered for a different cartridge than 7.62x54Rmm? Yes, Poland, successfully barreled and chambered their surplus MN rifle's to 8x57mm in the 1920's. Note: a commercial chambering to 30/06 was attempted by the company Bannermans in the USA, this 30/06 conversion is considered unsafe today because of poor workmanship. __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

10-01-2003, 07:27 AM	#19
JAMES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 575	Folks.......I'm afraid that our Moderator has it bad......Let us all grab our nearest Mosin and observe 7.62 seconds of silence on Joe's behalf.....(I was going to add 54 pushups to that ordeal, but decided to go eat breakfast instead!)

10-01-2003, 08:38 AM	#20
jerry Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 10,875 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 1	how about 54 12oz curls instead? __________________ I'm a down home back woods redneck