yet another oiler question...

whirlwind · 12-12-2003, 12:46 AM

on both sides of my super cool new oiler toy thingy there are cyrillic writings, now me being half russian my grandfather did teach me to speak it when i was young but ive since forgotten...do any of yall know exactly what it says? now i know it probably says "oil" one one side duh....but which? what does the other side says? ive looked on a site for cyrillic alphabet but i couldnt make hide nor tails from it. so i was hoping one of you would know?

NRAJOE · 12-12-2003, 08:42 AM

"Vodka?" :drink:

PAPA G · 12-12-2003, 09:04 AM

try www.mosin-nagant.net and check out the discussion boards too

whirlwind · 12-12-2003, 09:25 AM

ahhhhh...vodka!...its all making sense now!

Geezer Ranger · 12-19-2006, 02:41 PM

Two things you may want to try. First replace the firing pin spring. Second see if the nose of the firing pin is chipped or pointed. Try bunting the pin a bit and see if that helps. I had the same problem on a Chinese SKS. First punctured primer really racks havoc with the internals of the bolt. Cooked my firing pin and melted the spring.

billy · 12-19-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Geezer Ranger

Two things you may want to try. First replace the firing pin spring. Second see if the nose of the firing pin is chipped or pointed. Try bunting the pin a bit and see if that helps. I had the same problem on a Chinese SKS. First punctured primer really racks havoc with the internals of the bolt. Cooked my firing pin and melted the spring.

huh? vodka?

mah granpappy done tol me oil an vodka dont mix

ninwnc · 12-19-2006, 08:03 PM

The cyrllic "W" stands for, neft (oil) and the cyrillic "H" is for shchalok (alkaline solution).That's what it says in the book I have.

North Cape Publications' For Collectors Only, series, the Mosin Nagant Rifle.

Hope this helps.

Nick

troy2000 · 12-20-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ninwnc

The cyrllic "W" stands for, neft (oil) and the cyrillic "H" is for shchalok (alkaline solution).That's what it says in the book I have.
North Cape Publications' For Collectors Only, series, the Mosin Nagant Rifle.
Hope this helps.
Nick

I don't know any of the details, though. Couldn't tell you whether they just dampened a patch with it, or it was concentrated and they mixed a little with hot water, or...?

Geo M44 · 12-21-2006, 08:17 AM

I ran a patch or two of Stolies through both M44's and they now automatically correct for the bayonett offset.

ninwnc · 12-22-2006, 09:04 AM

It doesn't give any details on cleaning on that page. I just saturate a patch and pull it through the bore, then switch to dry patches. Be sure to clean the bolt face.

Nick

F1609 · 12-31-2006, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by whirlwind

on both sides of my super cool new oiler toy thingy there are cyrillic writings, now me being half russian my grandfather did teach me to speak it when i was young but ive since forgotten...do any of yall know exactly what it says? now i know it probably says "oil" one one side duh....but which? what does the other side says? ive looked on a site for cyrillic alphabet but i couldnt make hide nor tails from it. so i was hoping one of you would know?

haha i was looking for this same answer at some time and believe it or not i found a website. here check it out it tells you exactly what each of the oilers have on it. Mosin Nagant Rifle Accessories

Mooseman684 · 01-03-2007, 12:34 AM

Ninwnc...Sorry to say your book is WRONG !

One is for oil, the other is the symbol for Grease !!!
That is in an article in Shotgun News, and one of my Russian handbooks !
Rich

ninwnc · 01-03-2007, 01:57 PM

Rich,

That was the best info I could find on the subject. Sorry if it is incorrect. I wouldn't knowingly post bad info.

Nick

Geo M44 · 01-03-2007, 06:54 PM

Thanks for that pointer F1609. Now bookmarked.

Mooseman684 · 01-04-2007, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ninwnc

Rich,
That was the best info I could find on the subject. Sorry if it is incorrect. I wouldn't knowingly post bad info.
Nick

I know that Nick...I hate it when Bad info gets published and confuses people ( the anti-gunners are doing that crud all the time !)
FYI... the oiler containers are made of Aluminum and as such, any acid or alkaline would eat them up after a very short period of time. Russian soldiers would only use an alkaline solution when at a base camp where it was available in quantity. Hot soapy water was used mostly by Russian soldiers in the field if anything at all was used... followed by oil to stop the rust.
The later oil bottles and solvent bottles were made of plastic...
I have some Original oilers still with oil on one side and grease in the other from WW2.
Rich

troy2000 · 01-04-2007, 05:28 PM

Most mentions I could find of the double-oilers said, "oil and solvent."

The one that came with my first 91/30 was bone-dry and clean on one side, and had about an inch of what seemed to be cosmoline in the other side (it leaked on my sling in the box).

I was looking for the "oil and alkaline solution" reference that I read a year or two ago, but couldn't find it. Thinking about it, alkaline solution in an aluminum bottle does seem a little iffy...

Spikestrip · 01-07-2007, 01:15 AM

Nick - if you go to the referenced page (http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAcc.htm), on the oiler I got with my M44, it does indeed say, "Soviet, dual compartment, late shchalok / neft alkaline solution / oil. You weren't wrong, but the page (or book) might be...

12-12-2003, 12:46 AM	#1
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,747 Images: 1	yet another oiler question... on both sides of my super cool new oiler toy thingy there are cyrillic writings, now me being half russian my grandfather did teach me to speak it when i was young but ive since forgotten...do any of yall know exactly what it says? now i know it probably says "oil" one one side duh....but which? what does the other side says? ive looked on a site for cyrillic alphabet but i couldnt make hide nor tails from it. so i was hoping one of you would know? __________________ De oppresso liber !

12-12-2003, 08:42 AM	#2
NRAJOE Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toledo,OH Posts: 19,177 Images: 3	"Vodka?" :drink: __________________ U.S. Army 1976-1979 237th Combat Engineers Heilbronn, Germany

12-12-2003, 09:25 AM	#4
whirlwind Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: oklahoma Posts: 3,747 Images: 1	ahhhhh...vodka!...its all making sense now! __________________ De oppresso liber !

12-21-2006, 08:17 AM	#9
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,314	I ran a patch or two of Stolies through both M44's and they now automatically correct for the bayonett offset. Last edited by Geo M44; 01-03-2007 at 06:45 PM.

01-03-2007, 12:34 AM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 10,398 Images: 2	Ninwnc...Sorry to say your book is WRONG ! One is for oil, the other is the symbol for Grease !!! That is in an article in Shotgun News, and one of my Russian handbooks ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

12-12-2003, 09:04 AM	#3
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 11	try www.mosin-nagant.net and check out the discussion boards too

12-19-2006, 02:41 PM	#5
Geezer Ranger Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1	Two things you may want to try. First replace the firing pin spring. Second see if the nose of the firing pin is chipped or pointed. Try bunting the pin a bit and see if that helps. I had the same problem on a Chinese SKS. First punctured primer really racks havoc with the internals of the bolt. Cooked my firing pin and melted the spring.

12-19-2006, 08:03 PM	#7
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435	The cyrllic "W" stands for, neft (oil) and the cyrillic "H" is for shchalok (alkaline solution).That's what it says in the book I have. North Cape Publications' For Collectors Only, series, the Mosin Nagant Rifle. Hope this helps. Nick

12-22-2006, 09:04 AM	#10
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435	It doesn't give any details on cleaning on that page. I just saturate a patch and pull it through the bore, then switch to dry patches. Be sure to clean the bolt face. Nick

01-03-2007, 01:57 PM	#13
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435	Rich, That was the best info I could find on the subject. Sorry if it is incorrect. I wouldn't knowingly post bad info. Nick

01-03-2007, 06:54 PM	#14
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,314	Thanks for that pointer F1609. Now bookmarked.

01-04-2007, 05:28 PM	#16
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,929 Images: 9	I just went googling Most mentions I could find of the double-oilers said, "oil and solvent." The one that came with my first 91/30 was bone-dry and clean on one side, and had about an inch of what seemed to be cosmoline in the other side (it leaked on my sling in the box). I was looking for the "oil and alkaline solution" reference that I read a year or two ago, but couldn't find it. Thinking about it, alkaline solution in an aluminum bottle does seem a little iffy... __________________ I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting you really believe what you just said. WF Buckley, Jr

01-07-2007, 01:15 AM	#17
Spikestrip Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Southern "10 Day Wait" California Posts: 122	Nick - if you go to the referenced page (http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAcc.htm), on the oiler I got with my M44, it does indeed say, "Soviet, dual compartment, late shchalok / neft alkaline solution / oil. You weren't wrong, but the page (or book) might be...