Welp, hope the purists don't get mad...

GUNRUNNER · 05-10-2005, 02:20 PM

Took my M38 in the true M38 stock out of its Silicon sackup thats its been in and the Commie Red shellac was flaking off everywhere! Wasn't that bad when I put it away!
I proceded to strip the shellac off with Acetone (got a cheap buzz too!)

Then I went to ACE and got some Minwax Red Mahogany 225 Wood Finish...it looks pretty cool...its pretty close to the old color and I won't have to worry about it flaking off! I also picked up Minwax Tung Oil Finish to top it off after it dries. I didn't sand, so its got some dark spots but not too badly...after all its a WWII battle rifle...not a Weatherby...

I'm happy...next is the 91/30....

gunssb · 05-10-2005, 02:33 PM

But where's the pr0n ?

Big Dog · 05-10-2005, 02:35 PM

Actually, plain old alcohol (not the drinking kind, rummy!) will take off the Russky shellac, without damaging anything else. Right, "now he tells me!"

I did much the same with my M44, unissued. They must've used a fence-painting brush to slather the crap on! I just had to smooth it out. A good steel-wooling will take the gloss off the Tung Oil Finish, make it properly 'military'.

GUNRUNNER · 05-10-2005, 03:01 PM

Cheese and rice! Guys on Gunboards are giving me crap about it already!

"F" 'em...

http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topi...OPIC_ID=105112

gunssb · 05-10-2005, 03:28 PM

I admit I'm not an expert but I don't see how you bubba'ed it if you didn't cut the stock. You didn't even sand it. The Russians didn't exactly treat these guns with tender loving care. I stained the handguard on a K98 to match the color of the stock - it was a RC parts gun anyway. Guess that makes me a bubba

inuyasha · 05-10-2005, 03:38 PM

*insert random mocking statement directed at gunrunner while simultaniously shunning gun "bubba" ssb*

so long as it does what youd like and you dont ruin it to where it cant be fixed, dont worry about it. the guy who owns it after you doesnt HAVE to own the gun. it may make it look ugly, but theres a line at how far you can destroy the thing, and from the sound of it neither of you went to that

PAPA G · 05-10-2005, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUNRUNNER

Cheese and rice! Guys on Gunboards are giving me crap about it already!

"F" 'em...

http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topi...OPIC_ID=105112

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww, you reported this at gunboards. better watch out they will call the Mosin Nagant Abusive Owners KGB on you.

Thrawn · 05-10-2005, 03:47 PM

BattleRifleG3 · 05-10-2005, 03:55 PM

I thought of getting a synthetic sporter stock for my Mosin to take in the field and preserve the original wood. I wouldn't consider refinishing "bubba"ing, though I try to only do such things on less valuable collectors items, like a non-matching number Yugo SKS.

Not that this applies to you at all, but I think I know how to kill a cruffler in 9 words:
"I loved this gun so much I sporterized it!"

Troy · 05-11-2005, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUNRUNNER

Cheese and rice! Guys on Gunboards are giving me crap about it already!

"F" 'em...

http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topi...OPIC_ID=105112

GUNRUNNER, tell em to chew the bark off you log. hey i hate to see a fine gun raped as much as the next guy, but i dont see what you did that way. and regardless of what anyone says or thinks, it's your gun. Like you said, " "F" 'em...".

Big Dog · 05-11-2005, 07:56 AM

Those 'collectors' often suffer severe cranial-rectal inversion. They forget, it's YOUR rifle. Not theirs. I hate the guys who have a roomful of Mosins, with every little minor variation, and can't bring themselves to even shoot most of them, cause they'll "ruin the original finish!" Heck, the original finish is usually long gone.
If a gun was owned by Thomas Jefferson or Winfield Scott, I'd keep it as is. But we're talking warhorses that are shipped over here by the tens of thousands.
The armies occasionally refurb them, to maintain their service life. As far as I'm concerned, they are in my 'arsenal' now, and I'll refurb them too. My shooters will still be going strong when a lot of those 'dust collectors' have rusted from neglect in a display rack.
Give 'em 'Ell, Joe!

:full:

GUNRUNNER · 05-11-2005, 12:26 PM

Tuco locked the thread...I started up again by telling them that the black came off the metal tips of the upper handguard so I Oxpho blued them...

Turned out nice in my opinion...who knows about theirs?

gunssb · 05-11-2005, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUNRUNNER

black came off the metal tips of the upper handguard so I Oxpho blued them...

Lol...now that's just asking for it

PAPA G · 05-11-2005, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GUNRUNNER

Tuco locked the thread...

spanked you real good didn't they, a million+ rifles, all alike, and all rare and valuble collector items....do...do..dododo

troy2000 · 05-12-2005, 07:44 AM

I wandered over there to see what you were talking about. Whooee, remind me never to go back. Them there people are genuinely anal. Wonder what they'd say about my 91/30? It was unissued as far as I can tell, so by their standards I should have sealed it in a vacuum bottle instead of actually firing it and putting wear marks on the sear. I have to admit that anything I've done to it so far is reversible, though: EER scope on the original sight dovetail, leather and brass M1 sling on the original dog collars, and slip-on butt pad. That pad is so ugly it's probably against the law, but what the hey--my shoulder doesn't turn funny colors when I go thru a couple of boxes.

PAPA G · 05-12-2005, 08:12 AM

wanna sir up a real hornets nest???

act as a newbie, then say....ask how to turn an old rifle into a floor lamp, then watch the fun!!!

3 WEELIN GEEZER · 06-03-2005, 12:41 AM

:ballons: Ok, here goes:

I am a new shooter and I bought this m44 the other day at big 5. They tell me that I can't return it ( or any other firearm) once it leaves the store even if I jump across the carpet/concrete divide. Once its out, its out. If it weren't for gravity, I couldn't hit the ground with it if I drop it. Soooo...does anyone know how I can attach a lamp socket to the muzzle since its different sizes and it falls over all crooked and such. Can I use JB weld to jam the trigger and bolt so it cant be fired by the kids if they happen to get the bright idea to shoot it if they find some of my ammo? I don't think duct tape will work. It just leaves everything sticky and looks like ****. :gangster:

How's this?

PAPA G · 06-03-2005, 10:11 AM

ooooooooooo...pure dyno-myte.

Troy · 06-03-2005, 10:29 AM

3WG, I'd like to be there to see the fallout from that post.

GUNRUNNER · 06-03-2005, 11:25 AM

I took my M44 and extended the bayo...shoved it into the ground and now use it as a Tiki torch...

05-10-2005, 02:20 PM	#1
GUNRUNNER Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NRAJOEVILLE...A crazy, happy little place. Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (0)	Welp, hope the purists don't get mad... Took my M38 in the true M38 stock out of its Silicon sackup thats its been in and the Commie Red shellac was flaking off everywhere! Wasn't that bad when I put it away! I proceded to strip the shellac off with Acetone (got a cheap buzz too!) Then I went to ACE and got some Minwax Red Mahogany 225 Wood Finish...it looks pretty cool...its pretty close to the old color and I won't have to worry about it flaking off! I also picked up Minwax Tung Oil Finish to top it off after it dries. I didn't sand, so its got some dark spots but not too badly...after all its a WWII battle rifle...not a Weatherby... I'm happy...next is the 91/30....

05-10-2005, 02:35 PM	#3
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,020 Trader Rating: (0)	Actually, plain old alcohol (not the drinking kind, rummy!) will take off the Russky shellac, without damaging anything else. Right, "now he tells me!" I did much the same with my M44, unissued. They must've used a fence-painting brush to slather the crap on! I just had to smooth it out. A good steel-wooling will take the gloss off the Tung Oil Finish, make it properly 'military'. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

05-10-2005, 03:47 PM	#8
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0)	Ha!

05-10-2005, 03:55 PM	#9
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	I thought of getting a synthetic sporter stock for my Mosin to take in the field and preserve the original wood. I wouldn't consider refinishing "bubba"ing, though I try to only do such things on less valuable collectors items, like a non-matching number Yugo SKS. Not that this applies to you at all, but I think I know how to kill a cruffler in 9 words: "I loved this gun so much I sporterized it!" __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

05-11-2005, 07:56 AM	#11
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,020 Trader Rating: (0)	Those 'collectors' often suffer severe cranial-rectal inversion. They forget, it's YOUR rifle. Not theirs. I hate the guys who have a roomful of Mosins, with every little minor variation, and can't bring themselves to even shoot most of them, cause they'll "ruin the original finish!" Heck, the original finish is usually long gone. If a gun was owned by Thomas Jefferson or Winfield Scott, I'd keep it as is. But we're talking warhorses that are shipped over here by the tens of thousands. The armies occasionally refurb them, to maintain their service life. As far as I'm concerned, they are in my 'arsenal' now, and I'll refurb them too. My shooters will still be going strong when a lot of those 'dust collectors' have rusted from neglect in a display rack. Give 'em 'Ell, Joe! :full: __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

05-10-2005, 02:33 PM	#2
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833 Trader Rating: (0)	But where's the pr0n ?

05-10-2005, 03:01 PM	#4
GUNRUNNER Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NRAJOEVILLE...A crazy, happy little place. Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (0)	Cheese and rice! Guys on Gunboards are giving me crap about it already! "F" 'em... http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topi...OPIC_ID=105112

05-10-2005, 03:28 PM	#5
gunssb Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: socal Posts: 1,833 Trader Rating: (0)	I admit I'm not an expert but I don't see how you bubba'ed it if you didn't cut the stock. You didn't even sand it. The Russians didn't exactly treat these guns with tender loving care. I stained the handguard on a K98 to match the color of the stock - it was a RC parts gun anyway. Guess that makes me a bubba

05-10-2005, 03:38 PM	#6
inuyasha Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: US occupied territories of "south dakota" Posts: 355 Trader Rating: (0)	insert random mocking statement directed at gunrunner while simultaniously shunning gun "bubba" ssb so long as it does what youd like and you dont ruin it to where it cant be fixed, dont worry about it. the guy who owns it after you doesnt HAVE to own the gun. it may make it look ugly, but theres a line at how far you can destroy the thing, and from the sound of it neither of you went to that

05-11-2005, 12:26 PM	#12
GUNRUNNER Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NRAJOEVILLE...A crazy, happy little place. Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (0)	Tuco locked the thread...I started up again by telling them that the black came off the metal tips of the upper handguard so I Oxpho blued them... Turned out nice in my opinion...who knows about theirs?

05-12-2005, 07:44 AM	#15
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 8,909 Trader Rating: (0)	I wandered over there to see what you were talking about. Whooee, remind me never to go back. Them there people are genuinely anal. Wonder what they'd say about my 91/30? It was unissued as far as I can tell, so by their standards I should have sealed it in a vacuum bottle instead of actually firing it and putting wear marks on the sear. I have to admit that anything I've done to it so far is reversible, though: EER scope on the original sight dovetail, leather and brass M1 sling on the original dog collars, and slip-on butt pad. That pad is so ugly it's probably against the law, but what the hey--my shoulder doesn't turn funny colors when I go thru a couple of boxes.

05-12-2005, 08:12 AM	#16
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	wanna sir up a real hornets nest??? act as a newbie, then say....ask how to turn an old rifle into a floor lamp, then watch the fun!!!

06-03-2005, 12:41 AM	#17
3 WEELIN GEEZER Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 67 Trader Rating: (0)	:ballons: Ok, here goes: I am a new shooter and I bought this m44 the other day at big 5. They tell me that I can't return it ( or any other firearm) once it leaves the store even if I jump across the carpet/concrete divide. Once its out, its out. If it weren't for gravity, I couldn't hit the ground with it if I drop it. Soooo...does anyone know how I can attach a lamp socket to the muzzle since its different sizes and it falls over all crooked and such. Can I use JB weld to jam the trigger and bolt so it cant be fired by the kids if they happen to get the bright idea to shoot it if they find some of my ammo? I don't think duct tape will work. It just leaves everything sticky and looks like ****. :gangster: How's this?

06-03-2005, 10:11 AM	#18
PAPA G Guest Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: somerset, kentucky Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	ooooooooooo...pure dyno-myte.

06-03-2005, 10:29 AM	#19
Troy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Manitoba Canada Posts: 2,499 Trader Rating: (0)	3WG, I'd like to be there to see the fallout from that post.

06-03-2005, 11:25 AM	#20
GUNRUNNER Guest Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NRAJOEVILLE...A crazy, happy little place. Posts: 450 Trader Rating: (0)	I took my M44 and extended the bayo...shoved it into the ground and now use it as a Tiki torch...