Only the first round fired.....

Full MeTal Jack · 02-28-2006, 09:53 PM

Any of you boys had this problem?
Russin m44, SOG C&R $32.00 Cracked stocks (only missing a cleaning rod) special. Put glue and 4 screws to fix. OK
Only the first round fired.....all other rounds missfired. Tried Wolf and milsurp. Searched MN threads and bolt is not sticking or case sticking.
Bullets have deep firing pin penetration.
Could this be bent firing pin or whallered out firing pin hole in the bolt head?

7mmag6 · 02-28-2006, 09:59 PM

take mosin take some rebar---bury it in concrete and say i"ts for you comrades"

troy2000 · 02-28-2006, 10:02 PM

Start with the obvious. Take the bolt apart, clean it, look it over, reassemble it, make sure the firing pin is adjusted properly.

Check the head space while you're at it.

Full MeTal Jack · 02-28-2006, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7mmag6

take mosin take some rebar---bury it in concrete and say i"ts for you comrades"

comeon now? It's a beater gun. NOt as bad as Dale's though.

Yeah Troy, I'll put the Barnaby Jones to it. Will try another bolt form a 91-30 also.
Just wondering if any body else had this happen.

Thanks 7, made my day!

Shaun · 02-28-2006, 11:01 PM

I second Tropys recommendation strip it you probably have cosmo somewhere in the bolt

Big Dog · 03-01-2006, 04:29 AM

Try different ammo. If the firing pin dent is 'deep', it should go bang. I have a couple hundred Yugo 8mm Mauser shells that have never gone Bang - bad ammo!
Some 7.62X54R has the primers seated too deep also. You might try turning the firing pin out just a bit more. Mosin's have adjustable piring pin protrusion!

Dennis · 03-01-2006, 05:12 AM

sounds like something weird

Full MeTal Jack · 03-01-2006, 08:29 PM

Bolt and chamber are clean. the firing pin hole seems to be larger than the one in a 91.
Will try to disassemble the firing pin part of bolt, havent done that before.
The firing pin under magnfication looks bent. Looks! Hmm?
Thanks

Full MeTal Jack · 03-04-2006, 10:20 PM

[quote=troy2000]Start with the obvious. Take the bolt apart, clean it, look it over, reassemble it, make sure the firing pin is adjusted properly.QUOTE]
Well gee golly wiz? That's what that screw at back of bolt is for?

Screw had threads showing. Turnen in one turn. Will check and see.
thanks troy2006 and BigDog

Full MeTal Jack · 03-05-2006, 03:39 PM

SHAZAMMM!

That was it. Pulled bolt head and turned one complete turn. It had threads showing. No missfires. But shoots about 1foot to the left. OH Boy!
Thanks guys.
FMJ

Big Dog · 03-05-2006, 04:25 PM

Glad it was something simple. My newer 91/30 is shooting to one side too - just need to tap the front sight over, as it's obviously not centered.

I bought a 'jam-o-matic' .22 semiauto off a guy once - I needed that model for my collection. I just cleaned it, and it has shot great since. Some prior owners are their own worst enemies. Hehehe.

02-28-2006, 09:53 PM	#1
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,418 Trader Rating: (0)	Only the first round fired..... Any of you boys had this problem? Russin m44, SOG C&R $32.00 Cracked stocks (only missing a cleaning rod) special. Put glue and 4 screws to fix. OK Only the first round fired.....all other rounds missfired. Tried Wolf and milsurp. Searched MN threads and bolt is not sticking or case sticking. Bullets have deep firing pin penetration. Could this be bent firing pin or whallered out firing pin hole in the bolt head? __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

02-28-2006, 10:02 PM	#3
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,112 Trader Rating: (0)	Start with the obvious. Take the bolt apart, clean it, look it over, reassemble it, make sure the firing pin is adjusted properly. Check the head space while you're at it. Last edited by troy2000; 02-28-2006 at 10:05 PM.

02-28-2006, 11:01 PM	#5
Shaun Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 8,585 Trader Rating: (0)	I second Tropys recommendation strip it you probably have cosmo somewhere in the bolt __________________ "Homeland Security is the responsibility of an armed citizen" ME http://webpages.charter.net/s.s.v/

03-01-2006, 04:29 AM	#6
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,069 Trader Rating: (0)	Try different ammo. If the firing pin dent is 'deep', it should go bang. I have a couple hundred Yugo 8mm Mauser shells that have never gone Bang - bad ammo! Some 7.62X54R has the primers seated too deep also. You might try turning the firing pin out just a bit more. Mosin's have adjustable piring pin protrusion! __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

03-01-2006, 05:12 AM	#7
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,876 Trader Rating: (0)	sounds like something weird __________________ Submitted with respect to all

02-28-2006, 09:59 PM	#2
7mmag6 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 337 Trader Rating: (0)	take mosin take some rebar---bury it in concrete and say i"ts for you comrades"

03-01-2006, 08:29 PM	#8
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,418 Trader Rating: (0)	Bolt and chamber are clean. the firing pin hole seems to be larger than the one in a 91. Will try to disassemble the firing pin part of bolt, havent done that before. The firing pin under magnfication looks bent. Looks! Hmm? Thanks __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

03-04-2006, 10:20 PM	#9
Full MeTal Jack Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 1,418 Trader Rating: (0)	[quote=troy2000]Start with the obvious. Take the bolt apart, clean it, look it over, reassemble it, make sure the firing pin is adjusted properly.QUOTE] Well gee golly wiz? That's what that screw at back of bolt is for? Screw had threads showing. Turnen in one turn. Will check and see. thanks troy2006 and BigDog __________________ [IMG]http://img287.echo.cx/img287/63/9130110x100a4vb.jpg

03-05-2006, 04:25 PM	#11
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,069 Trader Rating: (0)	Glad it was something simple. My newer 91/30 is shooting to one side too - just need to tap the front sight over, as it's obviously not centered. I bought a 'jam-o-matic' .22 semiauto off a guy once - I needed that model for my collection. I just cleaned it, and it has shot great since. Some prior owners are their own worst enemies. Hehehe. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.