CQ: Scope mount for Mosin - Page 2

at4rxj · 06-14-2006, 01:28 PM

For like $60 you can get a new bolt body with the turned down handle from some guy online. He's really good at what he does, I got one and it's nice. I ended up buying a Finnish 91/30 from him. I'll try to find it tonight and post it.

jellydonut · 06-15-2006, 12:19 AM

Well, I got it all drilled, tapped, and filed. Man that took a long time to get installed with those directions they had and whatnot.. I'll break it all down tomorrow if I feel up to it (getting an impacted wisdom tooth taken out tomorrow morning), and maybe post some pichures. It looks sweet-awesome! I still need to file the bolt just a TAD, and cut away a bit of the stock so the new bolted-on handle will have enough room to close. All in all though, a very rigid system, ONCE CUSTOM FITTED TO THE IRREGULARLY-SHAPED GUN PARTS by hand fitting with files etc. (very time-consuming).
JD

jellydonut · 07-15-2006, 02:02 PM

Finally, I have some time to post a couple pictures of the finished (almost) product.

It works really well, and is quite accurate. That's a Tasco Pronghorn 3-9x40 scope I picked up for 40 bucks. It works pretty well, 'specially for the price

troy2000 · 07-15-2006, 02:22 PM

Thanks for the pics. Looks good. Do you have any trouble keeping the scope out of your eye when you pull the trigger?

I have a scoped 91/30, but I couldn't bring myself to to anything permanent to it (it's my first love, the one that got me into Mosins). So I did the scout-mount thing, and I've been happy with it.

Cheap scopes are a lot better than they used to be...

Tallyman · 07-15-2006, 07:11 PM

Your Mosin looks really great. Do you have any problems with loading or ejection? Where did you get the cheek piece?
Tallyman in Colorado

jellydonut · 07-16-2006, 08:59 AM

Thanks; I really like how it looks now, too. I understand the choice to use a scout mount now though-and I would probably opt for that if I were to scope another Mosin- after having spent about 7 hours installing this system, because I wanted to be extra sure not to drill through something, or break off a thread tap in a hole, and then filing everything like the new bolt handle so it would fit correctly. I had to (with Dad's help) then file the top of the receiver, where the scope mounts, a lot to get rid of the irregularities. Apparently 91/30s were largely hand-made, so they don't have the consistency of today's mass-production. It'd probably be a lot faster now that I know what I'm doing though. Anyway, back to your questions. I haven't gotten any scope-eye yet, after firing probably 15 rounds through it, but I still almost always wear shooting glasses. I am having some problems with ejection though; it seems I'll have to polish the chamber. After I shoot the copper-washed Hungarian stuff, it sticks pretty badly. (I didn't have any problems with the original longer bolt handle with it) The Czech stuff doesn't stick nearly as badly though, and it's laquered. I half-suspect the Hungarian ammo is at fault, because some of the cases look stretched after I shoot them, usually up at the neck and sometimes a little bit down at the rim. (the headspace has been checked, and it's fine). The cheekpiece is of homemade polyurethane scrap material. Polyurethane molding is actually what the family business does. It works really nicely though. I'm gonna fasten it onto the stock soon with silicone sealant or something, so it stays better. If I think of anything else, I'll let you know.
JD

ninwnc · 07-16-2006, 09:18 PM

That looks good. The cheek piece may be a new product line for your family's business. Mosin Nagant cheek piecies $$.oo each???

I could probably use one.

Nick

Tallyman · 07-16-2006, 09:50 PM

All of the scope mounts place the scope a little high on the Mosin Nagant - a cheek piece would be a good accessory for the Mosin.

jellydonut · 07-18-2006, 01:12 AM

Heheh, well maybe I'll talk to Dad about it. Probably wouldn't cost more than 4000 dollars each.. (kidding)
JD

ninwnc · 07-18-2006, 10:19 PM

$4000.00 each? You mean you wouldn't give your buds a break? Just think of us as your unpaid feild research and testing unit.
<G>

Nick

WakeDL · 07-13-2008, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bodiebill

Try a BKL scope mount which fits on the dovetail under the rear sight housing. It does require a "scout" scope with LER. You can still use the iron sights with it in place.
Sinclair Intl has them for $30.
Good quality---I have one mounted.

I know this is an old post but i'm really interested in the BKL scope mount . Does anyone know anything about it?

Most scout scope mounts replace the rear sight, how would it work with the iron sights still in place?

I found the link to the BKL site:

Welcome to Sinclair International's Online Store

Which one would work on a Mosin?

marinevet1010 · 07-13-2008, 10:10 PM

That's mighty pretty jelly!

marinevet1010 · 07-13-2008, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tallyman

Ronhart International has some scout scope and mount packages available starting at $54.95. Each package includes a new 3rd generation scope mount, rings and an extended eye relief scope in 2.5x, 4x, or 2-7x zoom. Illuminated reticles are also available. They also have Mosin Nagant bipods and muzzle brakes. For photos and info go to:
Guns For Sale: ShootersXchange.com - Firearms Search Results

Is it just me, or does that say shooter sex change .com?

EDIT: When I post it as quoted it changes the name of the site. Go to page one and it says shooter sex change.

speedpolka · 07-14-2008, 09:24 AM

I am having a hard time driving the pins out of the sight base to get to the dove tail. I have tried WD-40, regular oil, heat. I oiled both sides to the pins and then let them sit for 10+ minutes before giving them a go again. They have not moved at all. I spent 4 hours on it last night. The pin for the sight itself came out like butter. The two for the base look like they were too long and were ground smooth before the whole unit was blued. Does anyone have a trick for getting those pins out?

Geo M44 · 07-14-2008, 11:08 AM

I'm a big fan of the cheapo ebay scout scope mount and 2-7 x 32 NC Star LER scope. A good low cost scoping solution for a good low cost rifle.

Contrary to popular belief, mounted correctly they work great!

speedpolka · 07-14-2008, 12:05 PM

Quote:

cheapo ebay scout scope mount and 2-7 x 32 NC Star LER scope

I have one of these. I just cannot get the rear sight off to mount it to the dove tail on my 91/30. The pins do not want to budge. Any suggestions?

SwedeSteve · 07-14-2008, 02:24 PM

If you are looking down on the sight from the butt of the rifle, you should be tapping from left to right. Some are a real bear to get started. Just be careful, and look close up to make sure you didn't "Peen" the pin in place.

speedpolka · 07-14-2008, 03:14 PM

That is the direction I am working (L to R). And I am taking it very slowly. They looked like they were "smoothed" over before the rifle was reblued. They are flat/flush with the metal of the sight.

Geo M44 · 07-14-2008, 03:32 PM

If you are using the aluminum ebay mount you don't need to take the whole rear sight mount off. Removal of the entire rear sight mount is if you want to use the dovetail machined into the barrel to direct-mount the scope to the barrel. Which is a good way to do it incidentally.

The aluminum ebay scout scope (see attached picture) mount fits into the rear sight well which only requires removal of the sight rail and leaf spring (by taping out just the sight rail pivot pin).

speedpolka · 07-14-2008, 03:38 PM

I was hoping to use the dove tail. I have heard it is a sturdier way to go. Less adjustment, and fewer opportunities to mess up the aluminum threads.

07-14-2008, 11:08 AM	#35
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,161	I'm a big fan of the cheapo ebay scout scope mount and 2-7 x 32 NC Star LER scope. A good low cost scoping solution for a good low cost rifle. Contrary to popular belief, mounted correctly they work great! __________________ Remember when seconds count... the police are only minutes away.

07-14-2008, 02:24 PM	#37
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,266 Images: 1	If you are looking down on the sight from the butt of the rifle, you should be tapping from left to right. Some are a real bear to get started. Just be careful, and look close up to make sure you didn't "Peen" the pin in place. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

06-14-2006, 01:28 PM	#21
at4rxj Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 851 Images: 10	For like $60 you can get a new bolt body with the turned down handle from some guy online. He's really good at what he does, I got one and it's nice. I ended up buying a Finnish 91/30 from him. I'll try to find it tonight and post it.

06-15-2006, 12:19 AM	#22
jellydonut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 234	Well, I got it all drilled, tapped, and filed. Man that took a long time to get installed with those directions they had and whatnot.. I'll break it all down tomorrow if I feel up to it (getting an impacted wisdom tooth taken out tomorrow morning), and maybe post some pichures. It looks sweet-awesome! I still need to file the bolt just a TAD, and cut away a bit of the stock so the new bolted-on handle will have enough room to close. All in all though, a very rigid system, ONCE CUSTOM FITTED TO THE IRREGULARLY-SHAPED GUN PARTS by hand fitting with files etc. (very time-consuming). JD

07-15-2006, 02:02 PM	#23
jellydonut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 234	Finally, I have some time to post a couple pictures of the finished (almost) product. It works really well, and is quite accurate. That's a Tasco Pronghorn 3-9x40 scope I picked up for 40 bucks. It works pretty well, 'specially for the price

07-15-2006, 02:22 PM	#24
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,405 Images: 9	Thanks for the pics. Looks good. Do you have any trouble keeping the scope out of your eye when you pull the trigger? I have a scoped 91/30, but I couldn't bring myself to to anything permanent to it (it's my first love, the one that got me into Mosins). So I did the scout-mount thing, and I've been happy with it. Cheap scopes are a lot better than they used to be...

07-15-2006, 07:11 PM	#25
Tallyman Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 37	Your Mosin looks really great. Do you have any problems with loading or ejection? Where did you get the cheek piece? Tallyman in Colorado

07-16-2006, 08:59 AM	#26
jellydonut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 234	Thanks; I really like how it looks now, too. I understand the choice to use a scout mount now though-and I would probably opt for that if I were to scope another Mosin- after having spent about 7 hours installing this system, because I wanted to be extra sure not to drill through something, or break off a thread tap in a hole, and then filing everything like the new bolt handle so it would fit correctly. I had to (with Dad's help) then file the top of the receiver, where the scope mounts, a lot to get rid of the irregularities. Apparently 91/30s were largely hand-made, so they don't have the consistency of today's mass-production. It'd probably be a lot faster now that I know what I'm doing though. Anyway, back to your questions. I haven't gotten any scope-eye yet, after firing probably 15 rounds through it, but I still almost always wear shooting glasses. I am having some problems with ejection though; it seems I'll have to polish the chamber. After I shoot the copper-washed Hungarian stuff, it sticks pretty badly. (I didn't have any problems with the original longer bolt handle with it) The Czech stuff doesn't stick nearly as badly though, and it's laquered. I half-suspect the Hungarian ammo is at fault, because some of the cases look stretched after I shoot them, usually up at the neck and sometimes a little bit down at the rim. (the headspace has been checked, and it's fine). The cheekpiece is of homemade polyurethane scrap material. Polyurethane molding is actually what the family business does. It works really nicely though. I'm gonna fasten it onto the stock soon with silicone sealant or something, so it stays better. If I think of anything else, I'll let you know. JD

07-16-2006, 09:18 PM	#27
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435	That looks good. The cheek piece may be a new product line for your family's business. Mosin Nagant cheek piecies $$.oo each??? I could probably use one. Nick

07-16-2006, 09:50 PM	#28
Tallyman Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 37	All of the scope mounts place the scope a little high on the Mosin Nagant - a cheek piece would be a good accessory for the Mosin.

07-18-2006, 01:12 AM	#29
jellydonut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 234	Heheh, well maybe I'll talk to Dad about it. Probably wouldn't cost more than 4000 dollars each.. (kidding) JD

07-18-2006, 10:19 PM	#30
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435	$4000.00 each? You mean you wouldn't give your buds a break? Just think of us as your unpaid feild research and testing unit. <G> Nick

07-13-2008, 10:10 PM	#32
marinevet1010 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Goodrich, Michigan Posts: 314	That's mighty pretty jelly!

07-14-2008, 09:24 AM	#34
speedpolka Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 18	I am having a hard time driving the pins out of the sight base to get to the dove tail. I have tried WD-40, regular oil, heat. I oiled both sides to the pins and then let them sit for 10+ minutes before giving them a go again. They have not moved at all. I spent 4 hours on it last night. The pin for the sight itself came out like butter. The two for the base look like they were too long and were ground smooth before the whole unit was blued. Does anyone have a trick for getting those pins out?

07-14-2008, 03:14 PM	#38
speedpolka Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 18	That is the direction I am working (L to R). And I am taking it very slowly. They looked like they were "smoothed" over before the rifle was reblued. They are flat/flush with the metal of the sight.

07-14-2008, 03:38 PM	#40
speedpolka Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 18	I was hoping to use the dove tail. I have heard it is a sturdier way to go. Less adjustment, and fewer opportunities to mess up the aluminum threads.