sks vs. nagant - Page 2

Dale · 07-12-2006, 02:10 PM

I'm not sure how the K-31 got in the mix but as for the two; SKS versus the MN....unless I have missed something over the days the SKS is the ONLY one that will guarantee another QUICK second shot.

That was simple! LOL

FutureMarine · 07-12-2006, 02:21 PM

if i was in a combat situation i would take the sks over the two because in this day and age the combat is close range anyways

billy · 08-07-2006, 06:51 AM

Id go with the mn, bigger round.

FeLiX · 08-07-2006, 07:21 AM

get both... thats what i did.... !!!! get a 91/30 a m44 and a sks 350ish for all 3

asbraun4 · 03-30-2008, 09:24 PM

Yeah I'm having the same problem.....I want an SKS, I can get one at a pawn show for 230, and that's with a scope. I know that nagants are going to be sold at a bill goodman gun show that is coming to my town next week. I'm not sure how much they will cost but i really like the way this 230 dollar SKS looks....I'm torn between the two, although i dont care about which one can hunt a deer better. Anyone have any advice on which gun i should get? what are the pros and cons of each?

mitch_mckee · 03-30-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the allmighty

i am looking for a cheap rifle to deer hunt with. wich one would be better with no scope and shooting at average ranges of about 50-75 yds.

SKS ammo is easier to find. Also, plenty powerful for White tail deer inside 100 yards.

bigbuddy21 · 03-30-2008, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by asbraun4

Yeah I'm having the same problem.....I want an SKS, I can get one at a pawn show for 230, and that's with a scope. I know that nagants are going to be sold at a bill goodman gun show that is coming to my town next week. I'm not sure how much they will cost but i really like the way this 230 dollar SKS looks....I'm torn between the two, although i dont care about which one can hunt a deer better. Anyone have any advice on which gun i should get? what are the pros and cons of each?

$230 for a sks
under $100 for a mosin/nagant
which is the better deal?
pro's on the m/n everything about them
con's nothing

TRUE GRIT · 03-30-2008, 10:25 PM

I would go with the Mosin, more power, better sights. But if you are hunting in thick cover with close shots the SKS should be fine. I hunted with a SKS once , but that turned out to be a deerless walk thru the woods so I have no personal exp. with the 7.62x39 on anything besides paper targets and pumpkins.

squirrelbaster · 03-30-2008, 10:42 PM

i say go with the mosin, ammo is cheap as heck, and my m38 is a tackdriver the thing practilly aims it self! i know this is not the case with all mosins, my 91/30 is not nearly as acurate. and the kick is not as bad as some would lead you to believe,you just have to know what to expect, and/or get a butpad. sks's are great aswell, but it think for price on both gun and ammo go with the mosin, gives you the option of longer shots aswell.

sell33 · 03-30-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the allmighty

i am looking for a cheap rifle to deer hunt with. wich one would be better with no scope and shooting at average ranges of about 50-75 yds.

I'm guessing noone saw how old this is? wonder which one he went with, doesn't look like the allmighty has been back much since '06 thats a shame....
I own neither of the guns but would probably take the sks for practicality, less than a hundred yards i'm sure it would do the job fine.

texnmidwest · 03-30-2008, 10:54 PM

I love the sound of the Mosin's bark. Then there is something addicting about the SKS' pop.

I would choose the Mosin. More power and more authority. Plus, if you hit what you aim at the first time you don't need a quick follow up shot.

Geo M44 · 03-30-2008, 10:55 PM

Let's see... for hunting.

180gr. SP at 2600fps vs. 124gr HP at 2400fps. How about 203gr?

I love my SKS, it's a ton of fun and pretty accurate, but the laws of physics... being what they are... make the 7.62 x 54R the round of choice. 70 years of sniper rifles seem to support that idea.

For close-combat, the SKS wins hands down. So buy one of each (and an AK for even more fun).

just_a_car · 03-30-2008, 11:02 PM

Since no one ever mentioned it in three pages worth of material, I will...

CHECK YOUR STATE/LOCAL HUNTING LAWS!!!

Some states require a magazine of 5 rounds or less in a hunting rifle. This would mean that the SKS is automatically out of the running, but the MN is still a "go".

I own three MN's one m91/30 and two m91/59's, plus an AK-variant. I can hunt with any of them because I have magazines that can go from 10 round to 5 round by changing the follower for the AK. If you want to use the 7.62x39 for hunting and you have magazine restrictions, look at getting an AK-variant or one of the many bolt-rifles in that loading.

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Originally Posted by Geo M44

Let's see... for hunting.

180gr. SP at 2600fps vs. 124gr HP at 2400fps.

Which one will have the most knock down power at 100 yards? Seen any 7.62 x 39 sniper rifles recently? I have a feeling that is why the Dragonov and several long-range sniper rifles use the 7.62 x 54R. OK... there is the .50 and .416 Barretts.

I love my SKS, but if I needed to make the shot, so that I can eat, at over 100 yards, the MN would be my choice.

Two words: Tabuk Sniper.
As they suggest in the article, I'm modding my AES-10A into a Tabuk Sniper look-alike; check out my threads on it over in the AK forum neat pics, I promise.

Geo M44 · 03-30-2008, 11:24 PM

JAC, There are 5 round magazines available for the SKS...

.... I'm thinking, just for that reason.

I still wouldn't hunt anything bigger than a Javelina with an SKS.

I have to admit that I'm not a big hunter anymore, but when I was, I wouldn't think of using a lightweight ammo like the 7.62 x 39 for larger game like deer and elk.

If my knowlege is up to date the Tabuk Sniper was designed for close-quarters sniping. Given my druthers the Draganov SVD 7.62 x 54R would still be my choice... especially for follow-up shooting throught walls and doors.

P.S. I would own a Dragonov but the $695 price (+transfer fee as I don't have an 01-FFL) was just a little too high. I guess I will have to get by with the M44 w/scout scope or scope the M39 someday.

SwedeSteve · 03-31-2008, 12:03 AM

Either will get the job done. There's a lot of both out killing deer each season.
At <100m, open sights are fine, and there is hunting ammo for both.

marion57 · 03-31-2008, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

Either will get the job done. There's a lot of both out killing deer each season.
At <100m, open sights are fine, and there is hunting ammo for both.

Brown Bear sells Hollow points for SKS and I wouldnt think there is much you couldnt knock down with those at 100 meters

Geo M44 · 03-31-2008, 08:30 AM

Note: Wolf Military Classic is an HP round as well.

Next Sunday is my first trip to the range in 5 months so the SKS, M39, and Natalia the "Blond Beauty" will all get some excercise. Almost missed all the nice weather.

just_a_car · 03-31-2008, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo M44

P.S. I would own a Dragonov but the $695 price (+transfer fee as I don't have an 01-FFL) was just a little too high. I guess I will have to get by with the M44 w/scout scope or scope the M39 someday.

The day you find a Dragunov SVD for that price, let me know and I'll be one more gun "richer".

SVD's go for no less than $1500 (usually more) and that's if you're lucky to find one for sale.

You might find a ROMAK-3/PSL for $800, but those are getting harder to find. They're also not true Dragunovs. They have an AK action and receiver, which all the original Dragunovs do not have (SVD, Tigr/Tiger, NDM-86). I realize it's an airsoft page, but this has a lot of good info: Unconventional Airsoft Dragunovs, and Dragunov Rifles in Airsoft . You can also check out this site: Dragunov.net - Choose Your Rifle .

I really wish I could get an old style (not modern with the synthetic stock) Russian SVD as I've always thought they looked on par, aesthetically, with the H&K PSG-1.

squirrelbaster · 03-31-2008, 05:31 PM

theres a svd on gunbroker for $495 go get it boys!!!

just_a_car · 03-31-2008, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squirrelbaster

theres a svd on gunbroker for $495 go get it boys!!!

It's fake. Made out of resin. It's been listed and relisted for at least a year and a half. I know... I've been looking at least that long.

GunBroker.com guns: SVD Dragunov sniper rifle US ARMY recog model (item: 95833805 ends: Apr-05-08 07

08 AM)

07-12-2006, 02:10 PM	#21
Dale Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Too Dang Hot, Arizona Posts: 4,284	I'm not sure how the K-31 got in the mix but as for the two; SKS versus the MN....unless I have missed something over the days the SKS is the ONLY one that will guarantee another QUICK second shot. That was simple! LOL __________________ "It confuses me how some people can vigorously go against the 2nd. Amendment and still call themselves patriotic"-me

07-12-2006, 02:21 PM	#22
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	if i was in a combat situation i would take the sks over the two because in this day and age the combat is close range anyways __________________ Semper Fi

03-30-2008, 10:42 PM	#29
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,269	i say go with the mosin, ammo is cheap as heck, and my m38 is a tackdriver the thing practilly aims it self! i know this is not the case with all mosins, my 91/30 is not nearly as acurate. and the kick is not as bad as some would lead you to believe,you just have to know what to expect, and/or get a butpad. sks's are great aswell, but it think for price on both gun and ammo go with the mosin, gives you the option of longer shots aswell. __________________ "My Shotgun SAYS I AM the POLICE !"--Mooseman684 "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

03-30-2008, 10:54 PM	#31
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,464	I love the sound of the Mosin's bark. Then there is something addicting about the SKS' pop. I would choose the Mosin. More power and more authority. Plus, if you hit what you aim at the first time you don't need a quick follow up shot. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-30-2008, 10:55 PM	#32
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,212	Let's see... for hunting. 180gr. SP at 2600fps vs. 124gr HP at 2400fps. How about 203gr? I love my SKS, it's a ton of fun and pretty accurate, but the laws of physics... being what they are... make the 7.62 x 54R the round of choice. 70 years of sniper rifles seem to support that idea. For close-combat, the SKS wins hands down. So buy one of each (and an AK for even more fun). Last edited by Geo M44; 03-30-2008 at 11:11 PM.

08-07-2006, 06:51 AM	#23
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 12,203 Images: 9 Blog Entries: 146	Id go with the mn, bigger round.

08-07-2006, 07:21 AM	#24
FeLiX Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 122 Images: 2	get both... thats what i did.... !!!! get a 91/30 a m44 and a sks 350ish for all 3

03-30-2008, 09:24 PM	#25
asbraun4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12	Yeah I'm having the same problem.....I want an SKS, I can get one at a pawn show for 230, and that's with a scope. I know that nagants are going to be sold at a bill goodman gun show that is coming to my town next week. I'm not sure how much they will cost but i really like the way this 230 dollar SKS looks....I'm torn between the two, although i dont care about which one can hunt a deer better. Anyone have any advice on which gun i should get? what are the pros and cons of each?

03-30-2008, 10:25 PM	#28
TRUE GRIT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North East Los Angeles Posts: 186	I would go with the Mosin, more power, better sights. But if you are hunting in thick cover with close shots the SKS should be fine. I hunted with a SKS once , but that turned out to be a deerless walk thru the woods so I have no personal exp. with the 7.62x39 on anything besides paper targets and pumpkins.

03-30-2008, 11:24 PM	#34
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,212	JAC, There are 5 round magazines available for the SKS... .... I'm thinking, just for that reason. I still wouldn't hunt anything bigger than a Javelina with an SKS. I have to admit that I'm not a big hunter anymore, but when I was, I wouldn't think of using a lightweight ammo like the 7.62 x 39 for larger game like deer and elk. If my knowlege is up to date the Tabuk Sniper was designed for close-quarters sniping. Given my druthers the Draganov SVD 7.62 x 54R would still be my choice... especially for follow-up shooting throught walls and doors. P.S. I would own a Dragonov but the $695 price (+transfer fee as I don't have an 01-FFL) was just a little too high. I guess I will have to get by with the M44 w/scout scope or scope the M39 someday. Last edited by Geo M44; 03-31-2008 at 12:37 AM.

03-31-2008, 12:03 AM	#35
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,400 Images: 1	Either will get the job done. There's a lot of both out killing deer each season. At <100m, open sights are fine, and there is hunting ammo for both. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-31-2008, 08:30 AM	#37
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,212	Note: Wolf Military Classic is an HP round as well. Next Sunday is my first trip to the range in 5 months so the SKS, M39, and Natalia the "Blond Beauty" will all get some excercise. Almost missed all the nice weather.

03-31-2008, 05:31 PM	#39
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,269	theres a svd on gunbroker for $495 go get it boys!!! __________________ "My Shotgun SAYS I AM the POLICE !"--Mooseman684 "I like Turtles!" youtube kid