Mosin Nagant 91/30 ATI stock

Trey45 · 06-29-2006, 08:05 PM

Just curious if anyone here has refit their Mosin with one of the ATI composite stocks, I've been considering one but would like input from one who has already done it to see what your reaction to it is. Thanks

FutureMarine · 06-29-2006, 10:20 PM

i understand its all about preference, but the mosin is ideal the way it is, and the military stock IMO looks the best

myarmor · 06-29-2006, 11:16 PM

I like the looks of it, but I would have to have a scope mount to enjoy I believe, due to the high comb. Not exactly ideal for open sights. Still it's one of the only options out there as far as synthetic stocks are concerned.

Dennis · 07-03-2006, 10:13 AM

????
there are lots and lots of military stocks avalible for mail order
century had them so did sog get a SGN they are there.....

ninwnc · 07-03-2006, 10:49 PM

I had an Advanced Technologys synthetic stock on my M91/38 and switched back to the original wood after two trips to the range. It just didn't suit me.

Nick

jellydonut · 07-04-2006, 11:12 PM

Only reason I would change stocks is to raise the cheekpiece enough to see through a scope w/o having to lift your cheek off the butt, which makes you (debatably) less stable. I'm just gonna glue a piece of rubber on for a cheekpiece tho

Bubba'd I guess? Bubba'd but works. I like the old wooden stocks though.

myarmor · 07-05-2006, 10:51 AM

A simple solution to raise the comb, or check weld is to buy a neoprene shell holder like this:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=230112
Get some cushion material the thickness you need to raise your line of site, and tape it to the stock. Then wrap the shell holder over it. Works pretty good in my book, and no permanent modifications.

ninwnc · 07-05-2006, 09:36 PM

Or maybe a leather lace on type like on the M1-C/D Garand?

Nick

makarovnik · 07-14-2006, 02:40 PM

I like my ATI stock. At first it didn't fit. I had to use an exacto knife and small wood chisel on it. I had to square out the rounded corners in the pit where the front receiver bolt goes in. Now it fits tight and I like it alot. They don't use a cross bolt so you want that metal block on the receiver to fit tight against the polymer block on the stock. My original stock is in excellent shape after cleaning the rust off the sling grommets and a new coat of shelac. If you have small dings you can put water in them and iron them out.

ruger22com · 07-21-2006, 03:14 PM

I'm not a fan of ati stocks..the plastic finish just looks cheap..like a dime store toy gun.

JAMES · 08-09-2006, 01:22 PM

I have mixed opinions on these ATI Mosin stocks. For the low price (for the black ones at least), you get a decent looking and handling drop-in stock that is rugged and practical. I think that the cheek height is excessive, but I have not installed a scope mount to see if that justifies the height. With the military iron sights, the cheek weld has to be VERY tight (unnatural) in order to get an effective sight picture.

I have one "gunsmith special" 91/30 that arrived with a crushed stock, an ugly muzzle, and no front sight. I shortened the barrel, mounted adjustable iron sights, and added an ATI stock. The stock required some fitting, particularly along the forearm due to a casting flaw or design which warped the forearm. It wasn't too severe and I was able to float the barrel without too much of a gap on the non-offending side. The new sights are slightly taller than the original sights; that helps with the high cheek piece. I was pleased with the rifle.

I later purchased another ATI stock for another project. The warped forearm on this newer stock was so severe that once the barrel was cleared, there was a substantial gap on the opposite side. Junk. Not happy with that one. I easily overlook minor flaws and shortcuts on low-end products, but the poor quality of the ATI Mosin moulds is (was) not acceptable. Perhaps ATI has since corrected that flaw......

Tara Burton · 03-28-2007, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruger22com

I'm not a fan of ati stocks..the plastic finish just looks cheap..like a dime store toy gun.

With all due respect, our stocks are not made from plastic, but a high-grade glass-filled nylon. Compare the Hi-Point 9mm stock that comes on the gun originally to our stock. You'll find that ours is a heavy, solid stock.

We've upgraded the texture and finish on all of our stocks, so perhaps you'd like to try them again. Please feel free to call us with questions ANYTIME at 800-925-2522.

Anytime you buy one of our stocks, it is 100% guaranteed.

Tara Burton · 03-28-2007, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAMES

I have mixed opinions on these ATI Mosin stocks. For the low price (for the black ones at least), you get a decent looking and handling drop-in stock that is rugged and practical. I think that the cheek height is excessive, but I have not installed a scope mount to see if that justifies the height. With the military iron sights, the cheek weld has to be VERY tight (unnatural) in order to get an effective sight picture.

I have one "gunsmith special" 91/30 that arrived with a crushed stock, an ugly muzzle, and no front sight. I shortened the barrel, mounted adjustable iron sights, and added an ATI stock. The stock required some fitting, particularly along the forearm due to a casting flaw or design which warped the forearm. It wasn't too severe and I was able to float the barrel without too much of a gap on the non-offending side. The new sights are slightly taller than the original sights; that helps with the high cheek piece. I was pleased with the rifle.

I later purchased another ATI stock for another project. The warped forearm on this newer stock was so severe that once the barrel was cleared, there was a substantial gap on the opposite side. Junk. Not happy with that one. I easily overlook minor flaws and shortcuts on low-end products, but the poor quality of the ATI Mosin moulds is (was) not acceptable. Perhaps ATI has since corrected that flaw......

We have! Rifle Stocks and other Gunstocks for AK, AR, SKS and more - Advanced Technology, Inc.

ruger22com · 03-28-2007, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tara Burton

With all due respect, our stocks are not made from plastic, but a high-grade glass-filled nylon. Compare the Hi-Point 9mm stock that comes on the gun originally to our stock. You'll find that ours is a heavy, solid stock.
We've upgraded the texture and finish on all of our stocks, so perhaps you'd like to try them again. Please feel free to call us with questions ANYTIME at 800-925-2522.
Anytime you buy one of our stocks, it is 100% guaranteed.

Sorry, I have not held or handled your AK or SKS rifle stocks....but if they are anything like your dragunov stocks, well...here is a picture...please tell me this does not look like dime store junk: (and it feels worse)

This photo is from a story comparing the ATI to the Choate 10/22 Dragunov stock at our ruger22.com website...here is the story....sorry, but our site does not kiss up to manufacturers..and when we see a dog, we call it a dog.

If you have updated your Dragunov, let us know. and we will BUY another to test.

The Ruger22 Factory Model Ruger 10/22 Page

Beer Forever · 03-28-2007, 08:08 PM

I have had several bad experiences with ATI, that is me personally, maybe I just have bad luck. The SKS stock I had was a cheap piece of crap that went in the trash, I wouldn't want to even give it away.

.22guy · 03-28-2007, 08:28 PM

That 10/22 stock looks like a piece of crap to me! Wow!

ninwnc · 03-28-2007, 09:19 PM

Since SKS stocks were mentioned, I had one of those also. I just didn't like the feel of it and went back to the original stock. Nothing technically wrong with it, I just prefered the original.

Nick

Mooseman684 · 03-28-2007, 11:50 PM

Tara...I hate to tell you that Nylon is A PLASTIC...

Nylon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

M39SKY · 04-09-2007, 05:37 PM

I got a Tikka 91/30 that came with ATI stock. It needed a lot of work to fit right. The tang area was a little shallow and the recoil-lug cut was too deep. I cleared some plastic out of the tung area and glass bedded the action. I still needed to remove more plastic on the sides and fore end. I kind of like it now, after the works I did. The rubber butt pad is a plus during firing but it grabs the clothes (as opposed to the steel butt plate) when shouldering the rifle. Grip is on the small side. In the end, I'd rather have the original stocks.

Geo M44 · 04-10-2007, 06:16 PM

Ya know with all of the MN's out there it would be nice to have the option of a modified wood stock (like the one young Vasily Z. is using to shoot the wolf). Could probably have em made in you-know-where pretty cheap.

Anybody in the group handy at making hardwood rifle stocks?

Which brings me to a couple of ATI questions?

Why do the the ATI stocks take so much extra fitting work? There can't be that much varriation in the rifle component sizes. I would expect a plug-n-play product.

And second: Why is the camo stock so much more expensive than the plain one?

06-29-2006, 08:05 PM	#1
Trey45 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 244 Images: 3	Mosin Nagant 91/30 ATI stock Just curious if anyone here has refit their Mosin with one of the ATI composite stocks, I've been considering one but would like input from one who has already done it to see what your reaction to it is. Thanks Last edited by Trey45; 06-29-2006 at 08:11 PM.

06-29-2006, 10:20 PM	#2
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946	i understand its all about preference, but the mosin is ideal the way it is, and the military stock IMO looks the best __________________ Semper Fi

07-03-2006, 10:13 AM	#4
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,877	???? there are lots and lots of military stocks avalible for mail order century had them so did sog get a SGN they are there..... __________________ Submitted with respect to all

07-21-2006, 03:14 PM	#10
ruger22com Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mobile Alabama Posts: 723	I'm not a fan of ati stocks..the plastic finish just looks cheap..like a dime store toy gun. __________________ www.CheapGunParts.com http://ruger22.com/art/banners/tiny.gif Home of the "YELLOW JACKET" Bolt Buffer and Takedown Bolts! Free Shipping & Lifetime Warranty!

03-28-2007, 08:08 PM	#15
Beer Forever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,714	I have had several bad experiences with ATI, that is me personally, maybe I just have bad luck. The SKS stock I had was a cheap piece of crap that went in the trash, I wouldn't want to even give it away. __________________ Paramedic sks forever Last edited by Beer Forever; 03-28-2007 at 08:54 PM.

06-29-2006, 11:16 PM	#3
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	I like the looks of it, but I would have to have a scope mount to enjoy I believe, due to the high comb. Not exactly ideal for open sights. Still it's one of the only options out there as far as synthetic stocks are concerned.

07-03-2006, 10:49 PM	#5
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435	I had an Advanced Technologys synthetic stock on my M91/38 and switched back to the original wood after two trips to the range. It just didn't suit me. Nick

07-04-2006, 11:12 PM	#6
jellydonut Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 234	Only reason I would change stocks is to raise the cheekpiece enough to see through a scope w/o having to lift your cheek off the butt, which makes you (debatably) less stable. I'm just gonna glue a piece of rubber on for a cheekpiece tho Bubba'd I guess? Bubba'd but works. I like the old wooden stocks though.

07-05-2006, 10:51 AM	#7
myarmor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Southwest ,VA Posts: 1,147	A simple solution to raise the comb, or check weld is to buy a neoprene shell holder like this: http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpag...eitemid=230112 Get some cushion material the thickness you need to raise your line of site, and tape it to the stock. Then wrap the shell holder over it. Works pretty good in my book, and no permanent modifications.

07-05-2006, 09:36 PM	#8
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435	Or maybe a leather lace on type like on the M1-C/D Garand? Nick

07-14-2006, 02:40 PM	#9
makarovnik Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 25	I like my ATI stock. At first it didn't fit. I had to use an exacto knife and small wood chisel on it. I had to square out the rounded corners in the pit where the front receiver bolt goes in. Now it fits tight and I like it alot. They don't use a cross bolt so you want that metal block on the receiver to fit tight against the polymer block on the stock. My original stock is in excellent shape after cleaning the rust off the sling grommets and a new coat of shelac. If you have small dings you can put water in them and iron them out.

08-09-2006, 01:22 PM	#11
JAMES Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: OKLAHOMA Posts: 575	I have mixed opinions on these ATI Mosin stocks. For the low price (for the black ones at least), you get a decent looking and handling drop-in stock that is rugged and practical. I think that the cheek height is excessive, but I have not installed a scope mount to see if that justifies the height. With the military iron sights, the cheek weld has to be VERY tight (unnatural) in order to get an effective sight picture. I have one "gunsmith special" 91/30 that arrived with a crushed stock, an ugly muzzle, and no front sight. I shortened the barrel, mounted adjustable iron sights, and added an ATI stock. The stock required some fitting, particularly along the forearm due to a casting flaw or design which warped the forearm. It wasn't too severe and I was able to float the barrel without too much of a gap on the non-offending side. The new sights are slightly taller than the original sights; that helps with the high cheek piece. I was pleased with the rifle. I later purchased another ATI stock for another project. The warped forearm on this newer stock was so severe that once the barrel was cleared, there was a substantial gap on the opposite side. Junk. Not happy with that one. I easily overlook minor flaws and shortcuts on low-end products, but the poor quality of the ATI Mosin moulds is (was) not acceptable. Perhaps ATI has since corrected that flaw......

03-28-2007, 08:28 PM	#16
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,140	That 10/22 stock looks like a piece of crap to me! Wow! __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

03-28-2007, 09:19 PM	#17
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435	Since SKS stocks were mentioned, I had one of those also. I just didn't like the feel of it and went back to the original stock. Nothing technically wrong with it, I just prefered the original. Nick

03-28-2007, 11:50 PM	#18
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,638 Images: 2	Tara...I hate to tell you that Nylon is A PLASTIC... Nylon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM! Last edited by Mooseman684; 03-28-2007 at 11:55 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

04-09-2007, 05:37 PM	#19
M39SKY Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 34	I got a Tikka 91/30 that came with ATI stock. It needed a lot of work to fit right. The tang area was a little shallow and the recoil-lug cut was too deep. I cleared some plastic out of the tung area and glass bedded the action. I still needed to remove more plastic on the sides and fore end. I kind of like it now, after the works I did. The rubber butt pad is a plus during firing but it grabs the clothes (as opposed to the steel butt plate) when shouldering the rifle. Grip is on the small side. In the end, I'd rather have the original stocks.

04-10-2007, 06:16 PM	#20
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,172	Ya know with all of the MN's out there it would be nice to have the option of a modified wood stock (like the one young Vasily Z. is using to shoot the wolf). Could probably have em made in you-know-where pretty cheap. Anybody in the group handy at making hardwood rifle stocks? Which brings me to a couple of ATI questions? Why do the the ATI stocks take so much extra fitting work? There can't be that much varriation in the rifle component sizes. I would expect a plug-n-play product. And second: Why is the camo stock so much more expensive than the plain one?