mosin nagant pistol "obrez"?

Zephri · 07-26-2006, 11:05 AM

when i was searching the internet I came across an website that had some mosin nagant trivia, the one piece of triva that caught my eye was the obrez pistol, it is apparantly a mosin nagant cut down to pistol size During the Russian Revolutions. I can't find any pictures of one anywhere, and really want to make one (with proper help from a gunsmith of course). if anybody has any pictures or more info on this particular weapon it would be very helpful.
o and heres the linkhttp://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinTrivia.htm

grasshopper2 · 07-26-2006, 11:22 AM

Thanks, I just spent my lunch looking for a picture of the pistol.

.22guy · 07-26-2006, 11:36 AM

If that's true, then it would be one hard kicking mule. Maybe use reduced power loads.

Also, there are many rules you have to abide by to do something like that. You are basically going to make something that is classified as a rifle and make it into a pistol. I think that's a big no-no with the BATFE. You might be able to do it, but you would have to have lots of paperwork, taxes, fees, etc.

I am in no way an expert on this, so I will defer to those that are. Hopefully, they will be along shortly to help you.

By the way, just by one of these and call it good:

http://www.southernohiogun.com/shgn1895pop.html

Hope this helps.....

Zephri · 07-26-2006, 11:46 AM

[quote=.22guy]If that's true, then it would be one hard kicking mule. Maybe use reduced power loads.
Also, there are many rules you have to abide by to do something like that. You are basically going to make something that is classified as a rifle and make it into a pistol. I think that's a big no-no with the BATFE. You might be able to do it, but you would have to have lots of paperwork, taxes, fees, etc.
I am in no way an expert on this, so I will defer to those that are. Hopefully, they will be along shortly to help you.QUOTE]

yes and I would be willing to pay all thoes fees to keep it legal. but if i can't do it then at least i'll have passed the thought around.

and if i find a nagant pistol i'll definitely buy one. (it's been on my list for quite awhile.)

BattleRifleG3 · 07-26-2006, 12:35 PM

Under Federal law, you would have to first apply to the NFA to make a short barreled rifle. Call it a pistol all you want, but being made from a rifle it counts as a rifle and needs the paperwork. There will be a $200 tax, and you would not be able to begin until they have approved you, which could take over a year.

But after that's done you can make your Mosin pistol. Note that this registration is required for every such project, not one registration for several pistols.

.22guy · 07-26-2006, 01:49 PM

Do you think it will be hard kicking? I've heard stories about people getting their fingers hurt shooting shotguns with the barrel lopped off and a lot of the stock cut off.

ash · 07-26-2006, 03:36 PM

http://homepage3.nifty.com/LAMPOPO/Foto1/Obrez.JPG

Zephri · 07-26-2006, 04:21 PM

if only they kept the sights so they could mount the bayonet.

that's also one heck of a dirty mosin!

FutureMarine · 07-26-2006, 05:06 PM

i would like the recoil of that puppy

Zephri · 07-26-2006, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FutureMarine

i would like the recoil of that puppy

broken wrists anybody!!!!!:target:

BattleRifleG3 · 07-28-2006, 09:57 AM

I really like the idea of that gun STAYING in that museum.

I can't bring myself to like the idea without a left handed bolt handle like on the Savage pistols.

Mike82 · 02-16-2008, 09:22 PM

One reason ppl break their fingers with sawed-off, pistol grip shotguns is they forget to remove lower half of trigger guard, and also good idea to straighten trigger out some.

Most my guns aren't registered(maybe not best idea to publicize that). But most of the time i buy guns from individuals and they got em before Mississippi enacted the firearm registration act. So as long as i dont try to get a license to carry a specific "loooong-barreled pistol" then no questions should arrise.

This state never been good about enforcing anything....and I'm wondering if this may not have been best idea to post this comment :P I'm not tryin to promote law-breaking or anything, just saying that the $200+tax, BATF involvement, etc.... won't be an issue here

Disclosure: Do not do as I do, I will not be held responsible!

SwedeSteve · 02-16-2008, 09:34 PM

Mike, Mike, Mike.........

Mike82 · 02-18-2008, 01:32 AM

Yeah I know swede, just can't quit

07-26-2006, 11:05 AM	#1
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,021 Trader Rating: (1)	mosin nagant pistol "obrez"? when i was searching the internet I came across an website that had some mosin nagant trivia, the one piece of triva that caught my eye was the obrez pistol, it is apparantly a mosin nagant cut down to pistol size During the Russian Revolutions. I can't find any pictures of one anywhere, and really want to make one (with proper help from a gunsmith of course). if anybody has any pictures or more info on this particular weapon it would be very helpful. o and heres the linkhttp://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinTrivia.htm __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

07-26-2006, 11:46 AM	#4
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,021 Trader Rating: (1)	[quote=.22guy]If that's true, then it would be one hard kicking mule. Maybe use reduced power loads. Also, there are many rules you have to abide by to do something like that. You are basically going to make something that is classified as a rifle and make it into a pistol. I think that's a big no-no with the BATFE. You might be able to do it, but you would have to have lots of paperwork, taxes, fees, etc. I am in no way an expert on this, so I will defer to those that are. Hopefully, they will be along shortly to help you.QUOTE] yes and I would be willing to pay all thoes fees to keep it legal. but if i can't do it then at least i'll have passed the thought around. and if i find a nagant pistol i'll definitely buy one. (it's been on my list for quite awhile.) __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

07-26-2006, 12:35 PM	#5
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Under Federal law, you would have to first apply to the NFA to make a short barreled rifle. Call it a pistol all you want, but being made from a rifle it counts as a rifle and needs the paperwork. There will be a $200 tax, and you would not be able to begin until they have approved you, which could take over a year. But after that's done you can make your Mosin pistol. Note that this registration is required for every such project, not one registration for several pistols. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

07-26-2006, 04:21 PM	#8
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,021 Trader Rating: (1)	if only they kept the sights so they could mount the bayonet. that's also one heck of a dirty mosin! __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

07-26-2006, 05:06 PM	#9
FutureMarine Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PRK Posts: 1,946 Trader Rating: (0)	i would like the recoil of that puppy __________________ Semper Fi

07-26-2006, 11:22 AM	#2
grasshopper2 Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 28 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks, I just spent my lunch looking for a picture of the pistol.

07-26-2006, 11:36 AM	#3
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,059 Trader Rating: (0)	If that's true, then it would be one hard kicking mule. Maybe use reduced power loads. Also, there are many rules you have to abide by to do something like that. You are basically going to make something that is classified as a rifle and make it into a pistol. I think that's a big no-no with the BATFE. You might be able to do it, but you would have to have lots of paperwork, taxes, fees, etc. I am in no way an expert on this, so I will defer to those that are. Hopefully, they will be along shortly to help you. By the way, just by one of these and call it good: http://www.southernohiogun.com/shgn1895pop.html Hope this helps.....

07-26-2006, 01:49 PM	#6
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,059 Trader Rating: (0)	Do you think it will be hard kicking? I've heard stories about people getting their fingers hurt shooting shotguns with the barrel lopped off and a lot of the stock cut off.

07-26-2006, 03:36 PM	#7
ash Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 932 Trader Rating: (0)	http://homepage3.nifty.com/LAMPOPO/Foto1/Obrez.JPG

07-28-2006, 09:57 AM	#11
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	I really like the idea of that gun STAYING in that museum. I can't bring myself to like the idea without a left handed bolt handle like on the Savage pistols. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf Last edited by BattleRifleG3; 07-28-2006 at 09:58 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

02-16-2008, 09:22 PM	#12
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 535 Trader Rating: (0)	One reason ppl break their fingers with sawed-off, pistol grip shotguns is they forget to remove lower half of trigger guard, and also good idea to straighten trigger out some. Most my guns aren't registered(maybe not best idea to publicize that). But most of the time i buy guns from individuals and they got em before Mississippi enacted the firearm registration act. So as long as i dont try to get a license to carry a specific "loooong-barreled pistol" then no questions should arrise. This state never been good about enforcing anything....and I'm wondering if this may not have been best idea to post this comment :P I'm not tryin to promote law-breaking or anything, just saying that the $200+tax, BATF involvement, etc.... won't be an issue here Disclosure: Do not do as I do, I will not be held responsible! __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!

02-16-2008, 09:34 PM	#13
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,875 Trader Rating: (0)	Mike, Mike, Mike......... __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-18-2008, 01:32 AM	#14
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 535 Trader Rating: (0)	Yeah I know swede, just can't quit __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!