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Old 07-26-2006, 12:05 PM   #1
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mosin nagant pistol "obrez"?

when i was searching the internet I came across an website that had some mosin nagant trivia, the one piece of triva that caught my eye was the obrez pistol, it is apparantly a mosin nagant cut down to pistol size During the Russian Revolutions. I can't find any pictures of one anywhere, and really want to make one (with proper help from a gunsmith of course). if anybody has any pictures or more info on this particular weapon it would be very helpful.
o and heres the linkhttp://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinTrivia.htm
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:22 PM   #2
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Thanks, I just spent my lunch looking for a picture of the pistol.
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Old 07-26-2006, 12:36 PM   #3
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If that's true, then it would be one hard kicking mule. Maybe use reduced power loads.

Also, there are many rules you have to abide by to do something like that. You are basically going to make something that is classified as a rifle and make it into a pistol. I think that's a big no-no with the BATFE. You might be able to do it, but you would have to have lots of paperwork, taxes, fees, etc.

I am in no way an expert on this, so I will defer to those that are. Hopefully, they will be along shortly to help you.

By the way, just by one of these and call it good:

http://www.southernohiogun.com/shgn1895pop.html

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Old 07-26-2006, 12:46 PM   #4
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[QUOTE=.22guy]If that's true, then it would be one hard kicking mule. Maybe use reduced power loads.
Also, there are many rules you have to abide by to do something like that. You are basically going to make something that is classified as a rifle and make it into a pistol. I think that's a big no-no with the BATFE. You might be able to do it, but you would have to have lots of paperwork, taxes, fees, etc.
I am in no way an expert on this, so I will defer to those that are. Hopefully, they will be along shortly to help you.QUOTE]


yes and I would be willing to pay all thoes fees to keep it legal. but if i can't do it then at least i'll have passed the thought around.
and if i find a nagant pistol i'll definitely buy one. (it's been on my list for quite awhile.)
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Old 07-26-2006, 01:35 PM   #5
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Under Federal law, you would have to first apply to the NFA to make a short barreled rifle. Call it a pistol all you want, but being made from a rifle it counts as a rifle and needs the paperwork. There will be a $200 tax, and you would not be able to begin until they have approved you, which could take over a year.

But after that's done you can make your Mosin pistol. Note that this registration is required for every such project, not one registration for several pistols.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:49 PM   #6
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Do you think it will be hard kicking? I've heard stories about people getting their fingers hurt shooting shotguns with the barrel lopped off and a lot of the stock cut off.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:36 PM   #7
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:21 PM   #8
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if only they kept the sights so they could mount the bayonet.

that's also one heck of a dirty mosin!
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:06 PM   #9
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i would like the recoil of that puppy
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:27 PM   #10
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Quote:       Originally Posted by FutureMarine
i would like the recoil of that puppy
broken wrists anybody!!!!!:target:
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Old 07-28-2006, 10:57 AM   #11
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I really like the idea of that gun STAYING in that museum.

I can't bring myself to like the idea without a left handed bolt handle like on the Savage pistols.
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Old 02-16-2008, 10:22 PM   #12
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One reason ppl break their fingers with sawed-off, pistol grip shotguns is they forget to remove lower half of trigger guard, and also good idea to straighten trigger out some.

Most my guns aren't registered(maybe not best idea to publicize that). But most of the time i buy guns from individuals and they got em before Mississippi enacted the firearm registration act. So as long as i dont try to get a license to carry a specific "loooong-barreled pistol" then no questions should arrise. This state never been good about enforcing anything....and I'm wondering if this may not have been best idea to post this comment :P I'm not tryin to promote law-breaking or anything, just saying that the $200+tax, BATF involvement, etc.... won't be an issue here

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holy crap this is AWESOME!! i would never think of doing that to a mosin i probably wouldn't shoot one either
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It would seem that this thread keeps coming back again and again, LOL !! A revolutionary concept born out of a need for concealment.
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yes my threads always seem to come back from the dead, guess I shouldn't have the witch doctor with me when I create them anymore.

That being said I'm still gonna make one out of a really chitty mosin some day (with all the paperwork of course).
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The question I have to ask is, "Why?" Why would you bother to make an Obrez or a reasonable facsimile thereof today? I mean, it's not even a semi-auto, for heaven's sake!

You are after a concealable firearm. You'd be better off with any pistol .30 caliber or better in the pocket pistol class, or a sawed-off shotgun, than you would be with a bolt-action "pistol." Those had to be desperation assassin type weapons.
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Probably the coolness and "can I do it" factor.

Not to mention "Could I fire it and keep my limbs intact?"

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