M91/30 7.62x54

LefthandShooter · 01-24-2008, 01:30 PM

Thinking of getting one of these and would like to ask a few ???'s like what is their accuracy range (without a scope)? Also, is there any difference between 7.62x54R and 7.62x54 (no R).

On a funny note, a friend told me, when I said I was looking at these, told me "You know, these are war surplus JAPANESE rifles?". I just chuckled to myself. He is of the belief that if it doesn't say "GLOCK" on it it isn't worth owning.

He also told me he has never shot a gun other than a pistol.

Mosin Shooter · 01-24-2008, 02:24 PM

****NOTICE IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST RIFLE, GET A RECOIL PAD, THEY KICK...A LOT****
ALSO THE M44 VARIANT HAS SEVERAL AVAILABLE MUZZLE BRAKES, THEY HELP.
HERES THE LINK

Mosin Nagant Rifle Muzzle Brake 4" Long - MOSIN NAGANT by Combathunting.com

Scopes just add a little magnification, but other than adding a little weight they just improve the degree of accuracy.

Without the bayonet on they tend to shoot a little high due to less weight on the end of the barrel. Mosin bayonets were rarely taken off the gun. A magazine I read said it like this:"Mosin Nagant bayonets were either on the rifle, slung on the belt or opening a tin of borscht."
Plus the rifle is only marked to a minimum 100 yards.

7.62x54R has a rim at the bottom of the round. The R, in fact, designates the round as rimmed, not Russian.
7.62x54 looks like other standard rounds, going from the cartridge case, narrowing and then flaring back out around the primer.

As for being a GLOCK lover theres nothing wrong with that if you like hairpin triggers and cheap plastic frame

jim_turnbull · 02-20-2008, 11:20 PM

im a left handed shooter to .can i ask do they make a muzzle break for the m91/30r

marion57 · 02-21-2008, 01:03 AM

Jim : yes they do but I am not a big fan of muzzle brakes but then thats a personel issue..If you putting one on for recoil purpose just get a slip on recoil pad..
BTW jim are you in around the viburnum area?

SwedeSteve · 02-21-2008, 06:41 AM

WHOA WHOA WHOA! First place, a M91/30 does not kick alot! Second, If he's talking about a M91/30 why is there a ref to a M44 muzzle brake? Thirdly... Scope? Just add weight and magnification? 4th... Most infantrymen were never issued a bayonet scabbard or any way to store the bayonet OFF of the rifle.

marion57 · 02-21-2008, 07:55 AM

they dont kick a lot???? Hmm wonder why I put that recoil pad on both of mineee???? I guess I should take it off and see ?? nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .. some of us arent as tough as you Alaskians Swede

squirrelbaster · 02-21-2008, 08:04 AM

hmmm maybe with the silver tip stuff they dont kick alot or something,i dont know. but i use the bulgie heavy ball and with not recoil pad it kicks like an angry mule!

and i have NEVER seen any sort of scabbord for a 91/30 bayonet, did any of them exist even in small numbers?

01-24-2008, 01:30 PM	#1
LefthandShooter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In A House in NE Ohio! Posts: 1,433	M91/30 7.62x54 Thinking of getting one of these and would like to ask a few ???'s like what is their accuracy range (without a scope)? Also, is there any difference between 7.62x54R and 7.62x54 (no R). On a funny note, a friend told me, when I said I was looking at these, told me "You know, these are war surplus JAPANESE rifles?". I just chuckled to myself. He is of the belief that if it doesn't say "GLOCK" on it it isn't worth owning. He also told me he has never shot a gun other than a pistol.

01-24-2008, 02:24 PM	#2
Mosin Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 402	Accuracy **NOTICE IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST RIFLE, GET A RECOIL PAD, THEY KICK...A LOT** ALSO THE M44 VARIANT HAS SEVERAL AVAILABLE MUZZLE BRAKES, THEY HELP. HERES THE LINK Mosin Nagant Rifle Muzzle Brake 4" Long - MOSIN NAGANT by Combathunting.com Scopes just add a little magnification, but other than adding a little weight they just improve the degree of accuracy. Without the bayonet on they tend to shoot a little high due to less weight on the end of the barrel. Mosin bayonets were rarely taken off the gun. A magazine I read said it like this:"Mosin Nagant bayonets were either on the rifle, slung on the belt or opening a tin of borscht." Plus the rifle is only marked to a minimum 100 yards. 7.62x54R has a rim at the bottom of the round. The R, in fact, designates the round as rimmed, not Russian. 7.62x54 looks like other standard rounds, going from the cartridge case, narrowing and then flaring back out around the primer. As for being a GLOCK lover theres nothing wrong with that if you like hairpin triggers and cheap plastic frame Last edited by Mosin Shooter; 01-24-2008 at 02:33 PM.

02-21-2008, 06:41 AM	#5
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,266 Images: 1	WHOA WHOA WHOA! First place, a M91/30 does not kick alot! Second, If he's talking about a M91/30 why is there a ref to a M44 muzzle brake? Thirdly... Scope? Just add weight and magnification? 4th... Most infantrymen were never issued a bayonet scabbard or any way to store the bayonet OFF of the rifle. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-21-2008, 08:04 AM	#7
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,235	hmmm maybe with the silver tip stuff they dont kick alot or something,i dont know. but i use the bulgie heavy ball and with not recoil pad it kicks like an angry mule! and i have NEVER seen any sort of scabbord for a 91/30 bayonet, did any of them exist even in small numbers? Last edited by squirrelbaster; 02-21-2008 at 08:06 AM.

02-20-2008, 11:20 PM	#3
jim_turnbull Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 2	im a left handed shooter to .can i ask do they make a muzzle break for the m91/30r

02-21-2008, 01:03 AM	#4
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,865	Jim : yes they do but I am not a big fan of muzzle brakes but then thats a personel issue..If you putting one on for recoil purpose just get a slip on recoil pad.. BTW jim are you in around the viburnum area?

02-21-2008, 07:55 AM	#6
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,865	they dont kick a lot???? Hmm wonder why I put that recoil pad on both of mineee???? I guess I should take it off and see ?? nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh .. some of us arent as tough as you Alaskians Swede