Nagant M91/30 Bayonets, Scopes and Ammo

Mosin Shooter · 01-24-2008, 02:20 PM

I bought a nice Mosin M91/30 with everything for 90 dollars. Now at Christmas I showed it to my uncle with the bayonet. He told me that due to Federal Firearms Laws, the bayonet of the Mosin is illegal because it is a pigsticker type. I then asked him if the M44 Mosin is an illegal gun because the bayonet is a fold out bayonet of the same type. He told me that due to the bayonet the M44 is classified as an assault weapon, even though its bolt action and only holds 5 rounds.
Secondly anyone know where I can get good, light ball,non-corrosive brass ammo?
Lastly, anyone know where I can get a good PU scope for less than on ebay, gunbroker and auctionarms?
Thanks in advance.

LefthandShooter · 01-24-2008, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosin Shooter

I bought a nice Mosin M91/30 with everything for 90 dollars. Now at Christmas I showed it to my uncle with the bayonet. He told me that due to Federal Firearms Laws, the bayonet of the Mosin is illegal because it is a pigsticker type. I then asked him if the M44 Mosin is an illegal gun because the bayonet is a fold out bayonet of the same type. He told me that due to the bayonet the M44 is classified as an assault weapon, even though its bolt action and only holds 5 rounds.

Interesting since I am looking at one also.

Mosin Shooter · 01-24-2008, 02:43 PM

He told me the bayonet was illegal to have on the gun OUTSIDE, you can probably have the bayonet for collectors purposes.

lefty o · 01-24-2008, 05:49 PM

your uncle doesnt know what he is talking about.

texnmidwest · 01-24-2008, 06:08 PM

I agree with lefty. He was probably trying to pull your leg a bit. (tease you) Besides, the assault weapons ban expired.

Where do you live?

Check out AIM for some good ammo.

billy · 01-24-2008, 06:19 PM

he is either a joker or severely misinformed.
(was that diplomatic enough guys?)

TexasD · 01-24-2008, 06:38 PM

I thought that was very "diplomatic" Billy

SwedeSteve · 01-24-2008, 06:50 PM

ever the diplomat...

billy · 01-24-2008, 07:12 PM

im good at settling quarrels too!

.22guy · 01-24-2008, 07:31 PM

A lot of people on this board would be in deep doo-doo if that was true.

Big Dog · 01-24-2008, 07:39 PM

I'll say it - the man is daft, a raging bloody fool.

marion57 · 01-24-2008, 08:03 PM

first off I am not a diplomat LOL the bayo is not illegale to own or have on the rifle !!And like was stated assult weapons ban is no more bsides which 5 shot bolt actions are not assault weapons!! if your going to hunt with it check your local laws as they vary from state to stae as to whether or not you can have a boyo on a hunting rifle..sometimes the bayo is regulated by knife laws not hunting regs.. lastly I would hope that your uncle was pulling your leg as there is a lot of misinformation out there..just

my .02 worth

ouch · 01-24-2008, 08:12 PM

He would be correct if he were in Australia. I imagine that a lot of people are killed by accidental bayonet sticks down under. Perhaps if there was a flower in the end of it.

Gotta go do some bumpfiring to sooth my soul.

troy2000 · 01-24-2008, 09:43 PM

If they're selling them with the bayonets in California, I guaran-damn-tee they're legal in the rest of the country...

Mooseman684 · 01-24-2008, 10:15 PM

I believe that Curio and Relic Guns do not fall under assault weapons, in any form...Bayonets are Legal !
Rich

Mosin Shooter · 01-25-2008, 11:42 AM

OK I've established that the bayonet is legal, but I live in New York, and we still have a form of the assault weapons ban(THANKS PATAKI).

Where can I get the good, cheap PU scope and good light, non corrosive ammo.

troy2000 · 01-25-2008, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

I believe that Curio and Relic Guns do not fall under assault weapons, in any form...Bayonets are Legal !
Rich

In California (yeah, I know...) that isn't true. For example, I believe an SKS with a grenade launcher is illegal here under the statewide "assault weapons" ban.

Makes perfect sense to me. After all, we read in the paper two or three times a week about evil criminals using them to launch grenades at honest, god-fearing citizens, don't we?

Cyrano · 01-25-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosin Shooter

OK I've established that the bayonet is legal, but I live in New York, and we still have a form of the assault weapons ban(THANKS PATAKI).

Where can I get the good, cheap PU scope and good light, non corrosive ammo.

Yeah, thanks for nothing, Pataki, you nanny-state-loving SOB! (I live in NY too.)

"Cheap" and "PU scope" are mutually exclusive terms, especially if you're talking about an actual WWII scope. There's someone in Russia making reproduction PU scopes and scope mounts from the original jigs on the original equipment (the Soviets never threw anything away, just mothballed it against future need), and I think the scopes are running around $200 right now.

There's a website, mosin-nagant.com or something like that, that is THE resource for M-N shooters. They'd know where to look for your scope.

As far as the ammo goes, the best deals I've seen have been from Classic Arms down in North Carolina. Check them out:

Classic Arms Inc.

texnmidwest · 01-25-2008, 05:54 PM

For Ammo, also try AIM

AIM Hungarian 7.62x54RH 147grn Light Ball Hungarian 7.62x54RH 147grn Light Ball

lowercase · 01-26-2008, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mosin Shooter

He told me that due to Federal Firearms Laws, the bayonet of the Mosin is illegal because it is a pigsticker type.

Nah, those bayonets are totally legal.

Heck, I have one mounted on the front of my car.

Okay, maybe I don't.

01-24-2008, 02:20 PM	#1
Mosin Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0)	Nagant M91/30 Bayonets, Scopes and Ammo I bought a nice Mosin M91/30 with everything for 90 dollars. Now at Christmas I showed it to my uncle with the bayonet. He told me that due to Federal Firearms Laws, the bayonet of the Mosin is illegal because it is a pigsticker type. I then asked him if the M44 Mosin is an illegal gun because the bayonet is a fold out bayonet of the same type. He told me that due to the bayonet the M44 is classified as an assault weapon, even though its bolt action and only holds 5 rounds. Secondly anyone know where I can get good, light ball,non-corrosive brass ammo? Lastly, anyone know where I can get a good PU scope for less than on ebay, gunbroker and auctionarms? Thanks in advance.

01-24-2008, 02:43 PM	#3
Mosin Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0)	No that i think... He told me the bayonet was illegal to have on the gun OUTSIDE, you can probably have the bayonet for collectors purposes.

01-24-2008, 06:08 PM	#5
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,021 Trader Rating: (0)	I agree with lefty. He was probably trying to pull your leg a bit. (tease you) Besides, the assault weapons ban expired. Where do you live? Check out AIM for some good ammo. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead) Last edited by texnmidwest; 01-24-2008 at 06:09 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

01-24-2008, 06:19 PM	#6
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,865 Trader Rating: (0)	he is either a joker or severely misinformed. (was that diplomatic enough guys?) __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

01-24-2008, 06:50 PM	#8
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,136 Trader Rating: (0)	ever the diplomat... __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

01-24-2008, 05:49 PM	#4
lefty o Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: mn Posts: 4,692 Trader Rating: (0)	your uncle doesnt know what he is talking about.

01-24-2008, 06:38 PM	#7
TexasD Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North Texas Posts: 68 Trader Rating: (0)	I thought that was very "diplomatic" Billy

01-24-2008, 07:12 PM	#9
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,865 Trader Rating: (0)	im good at settling quarrels too! __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

01-24-2008, 07:31 PM	#10
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,066 Trader Rating: (0)	A lot of people on this board would be in deep doo-doo if that was true. __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

01-24-2008, 07:39 PM	#11
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,067 Trader Rating: (0)	I'll say it - the man is daft, a raging bloody fool. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

01-24-2008, 08:03 PM	#12
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,692 Trader Rating: (0)	first off I am not a diplomat LOL the bayo is not illegale to own or have on the rifle !!And like was stated assult weapons ban is no more bsides which 5 shot bolt actions are not assault weapons!! if your going to hunt with it check your local laws as they vary from state to stae as to whether or not you can have a boyo on a hunting rifle..sometimes the bayo is regulated by knife laws not hunting regs.. lastly I would hope that your uncle was pulling your leg as there is a lot of misinformation out there..just my .02 worth

01-24-2008, 08:12 PM	#13
ouch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Ridgerun, Mo Posts: 184 Trader Rating: (0)	He would be correct if he were in Australia. I imagine that a lot of people are killed by accidental bayonet sticks down under. Perhaps if there was a flower in the end of it. Gotta go do some bumpfiring to sooth my soul.

01-24-2008, 09:43 PM	#14
troy2000 Resident Armed Liberal Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 9,108 Trader Rating: (0)	If they're selling them with the bayonets in California, I guaran-damn-tee they're legal in the rest of the country... __________________ If a million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. -Anatole France

01-24-2008, 10:15 PM	#15
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,266 Trader Rating: (0)	I believe that Curio and Relic Guns do not fall under assault weapons, in any form...Bayonets are Legal ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

01-25-2008, 11:42 AM	#16
Mosin Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 359 Trader Rating: (0)	Ok now PU scope and good ammo OK I've established that the bayonet is legal, but I live in New York, and we still have a form of the assault weapons ban(THANKS PATAKI). Where can I get the good, cheap PU scope and good light, non corrosive ammo.

01-25-2008, 05:54 PM	#19
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,021 Trader Rating: (0)	For Ammo, also try AIM AIM Hungarian 7.62x54RH 147grn Light Ball Hungarian 7.62x54RH 147grn Light Ball __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)