Going sniper

Mr Marksman · 02-02-2008, 01:32 PM

I wanted to convert my existing 91/30
to a PU sniper version, I have heard that all the scopes avaliable have cheap aluminum mounts, I really do not care if it is origianal or not, but I want a steal scope mount, or somthing that is durable, does any one know were I can get one? What about a bent bolt?
Any other good ways to mount a scope?

Zephri · 02-02-2008, 01:37 PM

Here's a steel mount with scope for the 91/30 Original PU Scope and Mounting Set - Kalinka Optics Warehouse®

here's a picture of the steel mount next to the craptastic aluminium mount, and for those people who have one of these rifles with the aluminium mount the steel mount will not "drop in" the holes and pins are in different positions and need to be redrilled for the steel mount.

SwedeSteve · 02-02-2008, 03:08 PM

Marksman- I would look for an ex-sniper M9/30. Kalinka's stuff is good quaity.
Go here for bent bolt: Buymilsurp.com, Your source for military surplus. Good Luck and send us pics!

Mr Marksman · 02-02-2008, 03:30 PM

Thanks for this info, I am going to wait a while before I do this, because I have already got my springfield 03 glass bedded, free floated, and drilled and tapped for a scope, so I dont want to drop another 300 bucks right now on a mosin.
But I will get to it soon. When It comes to guns money seems to be an object.

What kind of accuracy do you get with your scoped 91/30?

Zephri · 02-02-2008, 04:05 PM

This was at 50 yards on a somewhat stable range bag, my mosin is also free floated which really helped the accuracy. I'm pretty sure that if I put it in a mechanical rest it would shoot 4 out of 5 rounds into the same hole or very close.

The ammo I used was Hungarian Silver tip, head stamp 21 over 76.

Mr Marksman · 02-02-2008, 04:13 PM

Hmm, not to bad, so if I shot handloads at 100 yards, I could expect about two inch groups, so at 500 yards it would be a 10 inch spread. I like that. Good lookin rifle Zephri.

marion57 · 02-02-2008, 06:47 PM

Good looking ? wow its beautiful!!

mym1a · 02-02-2008, 06:48 PM

nice very nice

SanDiegoRedneck · 02-02-2008, 11:16 PM

Extremely nice rifle

troy2000 · 02-02-2008, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Marksman

Hmm, not to bad, so if I shot handloads at 100 yards, I could expect about two inch groups, so at 500 yards it would be a 10 inch spread. I like that. Good lookin rifle Zephri.

With a little luck getting the right gun (and some skill), one-inch groups at a hundred yards are a quite reasonable possibility, MM.

bigbuddy21 · 02-02-2008, 11:35 PM

hey mr. marksman, another thing you can consider is taking off the rear sight and putting a scout mount in its place then put a good long eye relief scope on. you can get both for less than$150.00 and you dont have to replace the bolt.

GlockMeister · 02-02-2008, 11:43 PM

I remembered in reading other posts on the Mosins, that there was a link to someone that made bolts for them. So I took a look and found the link for you.
Bent bolts for the Mosin Nagant and Mauser rifles

Good luck on your project.

G-Meister

Mr Marksman · 02-03-2008, 12:35 AM

Thanks guys, I will let y'all Know when Im done.

Zephri · 02-03-2008, 12:51 AM

Can't wait to see it when it's finished!

marion57 · 02-03-2008, 09:01 AM

The Boltman=
just another place for bolts

gunguy · 02-03-2008, 08:10 PM

how are you guys mounting your scopes.

SwedeSteve · 02-04-2008, 10:13 PM

Most mount scout scopes, as they're the cheapest route to go! If'n you want something to use your iron sights thru, then get ready to buy a pony, and then some! Marion and others can steer you better'n me!

marion57 · 02-04-2008, 11:08 PM

There has got to be a 100 different manufacters of scope mounts and everone has there own Ideas e baby has a bunch and even amazon.com some and natchez,J&G ..I personally dont like scopes but to each his own..I have owned many and havent found one yet that gives you the field of view you get with open sites LOL.. most of the mounts for snipers have to be drilled and tapped

eBay mount and copy of original scope made in russia

gunguy · 02-05-2008, 12:31 AM

has any one use the rear sight to mount the scope. ive seen the bracket online that mounts to it then you mount your scope to that. just wondering if that works well

just_a_car · 02-05-2008, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gunguy

has any one use the rear sight to mount the scope. ive seen the bracket online that mounts to it then you mount your scope to that. just wondering if that works well

That's what Swedesteve meant by mounting scout scopes. Many here have done it with successful results and improved accuracy.

02-02-2008, 01:32 PM	#1
Mr Marksman Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0)	Going sniper I wanted to convert my existing 91/30 to a PU sniper version, I have heard that all the scopes avaliable have cheap aluminum mounts, I really do not care if it is origianal or not, but I want a steal scope mount, or somthing that is durable, does any one know were I can get one? What about a bent bolt? Any other good ways to mount a scope?

02-02-2008, 01:37 PM	#2
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,021 Trader Rating: (1)	Here's a steel mount with scope for the 91/30 Original PU Scope and Mounting Set - Kalinka Optics Warehouse® here's a picture of the steel mount next to the craptastic aluminium mount, and for those people who have one of these rifles with the aluminium mount the steel mount will not "drop in" the holes and pins are in different positions and need to be redrilled for the steel mount. __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/ Last edited by Zephri; 02-02-2008 at 01:49 PM.

02-02-2008, 03:08 PM	#3
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,875 Trader Rating: (0)	Marksman- I would look for an ex-sniper M9/30. Kalinka's stuff is good quaity. Go here for bent bolt: Buymilsurp.com, Your source for military surplus. Good Luck and send us pics! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-02-2008, 03:30 PM	#4
Mr Marksman Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks for this info, I am going to wait a while before I do this, because I have already got my springfield 03 glass bedded, free floated, and drilled and tapped for a scope, so I dont want to drop another 300 bucks right now on a mosin. But I will get to it soon. When It comes to guns money seems to be an object. What kind of accuracy do you get with your scoped 91/30? Last edited by Mr Marksman; 02-02-2008 at 03:33 PM.

02-02-2008, 04:05 PM	#5
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,021 Trader Rating: (1)	This was at 50 yards on a somewhat stable range bag, my mosin is also free floated which really helped the accuracy. I'm pretty sure that if I put it in a mechanical rest it would shoot 4 out of 5 rounds into the same hole or very close. The ammo I used was Hungarian Silver tip, head stamp 21 over 76. __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

02-02-2008, 04:13 PM	#6
Mr Marksman Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0)	Hmm, not to bad, so if I shot handloads at 100 yards, I could expect about two inch groups, so at 500 yards it would be a 10 inch spread. I like that. Good lookin rifle Zephri.

02-02-2008, 06:47 PM	#7
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,668 Trader Rating: (0)	Good looking ? wow its beautiful!!

02-02-2008, 06:48 PM	#8
mym1a Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,312 Trader Rating: (0)	nice very nice

02-02-2008, 11:16 PM	#9
SanDiegoRedneck Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 49 Trader Rating: (0)	Extremely nice rifle

02-02-2008, 11:35 PM	#11
bigbuddy21 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new albany in. Posts: 951 Trader Rating: (0)	hey mr. marksman, another thing you can consider is taking off the rear sight and putting a scout mount in its place then put a good long eye relief scope on. you can get both for less than$150.00 and you dont have to replace the bolt. __________________ LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!

02-02-2008, 11:43 PM	#12
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 4,881 Trader Rating: (0)	I remembered in reading other posts on the Mosins, that there was a link to someone that made bolts for them. So I took a look and found the link for you. Bent bolts for the Mosin Nagant and Mauser rifles Good luck on your project. G-Meister __________________ I'd rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6!

02-03-2008, 12:35 AM	#13
Mr Marksman Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 64 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanks guys, I will let y'all Know when Im done.

02-03-2008, 12:51 AM	#14
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,021 Trader Rating: (1)	Can't wait to see it when it's finished! __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

02-03-2008, 09:01 AM	#15
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,668 Trader Rating: (0)	The Boltman= just another place for bolts

02-03-2008, 08:10 PM	#16
gunguy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: silverdale, wa Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0)	how are you guys mounting your scopes.

02-04-2008, 10:13 PM	#17
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,875 Trader Rating: (0)	Most mount scout scopes, as they're the cheapest route to go! If'n you want something to use your iron sights thru, then get ready to buy a pony, and then some! Marion and others can steer you better'n me! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-04-2008, 11:08 PM	#18
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,668 Trader Rating: (0)	There has got to be a 100 different manufacters of scope mounts and everone has there own Ideas e baby has a bunch and even amazon.com some and natchez,J&G ..I personally dont like scopes but to each his own..I have owned many and havent found one yet that gives you the field of view you get with open sites LOL.. most of the mounts for snipers have to be drilled and tapped eBay mount and copy of original scope made in russia Last edited by marion57; 02-04-2008 at 11:32 PM.

02-05-2008, 12:31 AM	#19
gunguy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: silverdale, wa Posts: 13 Trader Rating: (0)	has any one use the rear sight to mount the scope. ive seen the bracket online that mounts to it then you mount your scope to that. just wondering if that works well