Favorite Mosin I own: - Page 2

Zephri · 02-05-2008, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

Geo, you were 5 when I was born! Do you remember the "duck and cover" drills in school?

Speaking of which....

Duck and Cover

and the reality of it...
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ghost_raven · 02-05-2008, 02:25 AM

I have to wonder what my grandpa on my dad's side would've thought of my Mosin. He was a Marine and was stationed at Los Alamos, where my dad was later born. No, I'm not BSing. Anyway, he was a very good marksman. Better than my dad... well, that may not be saying much. But he liked showing off and making smiley faces with bullet holes.

lol... the thing that still gets me is his description of Winston Churchill, whom he was apparently appointed to protect while in the US... "Cheap bastard couldn't buy his own cigars."

Zephri · 02-05-2008, 02:37 AM

My personal favorite mosin is my sniper repro just because it can out shoot just about all the guns that I have.

But I also like my m38 and my m44 and my m91 and my m91/30 and.......crap it's like choosing which kid you like the most.

mosin31291 · 02-08-2008, 07:37 PM

i only have one mosin its a 91/30 i hpe to eventualy get a m44.

Mike82 · 02-08-2008, 08:16 PM

wow, nice vids, wish my fave Mosin would have the same effect on a deer that the shockwave had on that school bus

My fave Mosin-Nagant is my 1936 M91/30, soon to be scoped.
My fave Russian-made gun is my Rom-Arm WASR-10 underfolder.

Soon to be owner of another mosin, didnt check to see what it was, but it looked like a short M91/30, and as I've heard it means it's either an M91/59 or an M38. Might keep it a while, but i prefer long rifles, so I might be selling it soon after, I'll put pics up when I get it and if I decide to sell it i'll announce it here so you guys get an early heads up. If the moderators have a problem with it, please respond or PM me, and I won't post anything about selling it. Thanks for the wonderful informative site.

My fave sign is as follows:

No Trespassers!
Violators Will Be
Shot! Survivors
Will Be Shot Again!

By the way, the milsurp yellow tipped 'heavy rounds' are going for $5/round here, very limited quantities. But, I saw where someone decided to test a couple out and they shoot thru cast iron at short range like it was butter. Shot a railroad iron at the thin spot and it actually went thru it, very surprised there, left a hole about size of a quarter, and cracked the rail. Have no idea if it was original yellow tip, or if it was a reload that someone packed alot of powder into, but the case was steel, and an FMJ with yellow on the end, and the throat showed a lil red. That was kool as hell tho, never seen a gun do that before :P

just_a_car · 02-08-2008, 08:44 PM

Sounds like the Hungarian Heavy Ball, of which there are three varieties listed on 7.62x54.net:

There's a couple others, like the Czechoslovakian 1953 7.62x54r Lead Core Heavy Ball and the Bulgarian 1955 7.62x54r Lead Core Heavy Ball which are both lead-core.

The last of the Hungarian is lead-core, but the first two are "mild steel core". They're not "hardened steel" like armor-penetrating ammo, but it will certainly penetrate better than straight lead.

I'm guessing it was likely one of the first two, of which you can discern from the lacquered or copper-wash case.

Oh, and $5/round is highway robbery. Here's some 7.62x54R Bulgarian Heavy Ball FMJ ammo, brass case, 300 rd tin. that's $45.93+$19.13 shipping = $65.06/300 rounds = $0.21686/round

See what I mean?

Also, if you want some lead-core heavy ball, check this out: Ammunition To Go : 250rds - 7.62x54R Bulgarian Military 182gr. FMJ Ammo - $39.95

Mike82 · 02-08-2008, 11:25 PM

Now that's a surprise, because here they advertise the silver tips as armor-piercing, and the yellow tips as tank-piercing, rofl

Silver-tipped czech-made 185gr: 18.99/20 or 699/1000
Yellow-tipped (guessing hungarian-made) unknown grain: 99.99/20 or 399/50 but you can only buy 50 rounds a day due to "limited supply"
So if I can get em for that price, maybe I can get a few friends to make it known that I'm selling for say $1/round of yellow tip and piss-off a few dealers

That oughtta be interesting. Do you have to have an FFL tho to buy yellow-tip? Since from what i've heard they are consider military only ammo. May be just a rouse to make people pay more locally.

SwedeSteve · 02-09-2008, 01:49 AM

Go to 7.62x54r.net and click on ammo comparisons for a ton of info on the milsurp you are shooting. Everything you ever wanted to know! Actually worth printing a well. Expect to spend a LONG time there!

Mike82 · 02-09-2008, 02:09 AM

Thx swede, doin that now. This stuff here is awesome, lotsa reading tho :P

SwedeSteve · 02-09-2008, 03:21 PM

Yep, it takes a while to get through it all. But it's well worth it!

just_a_car · 02-10-2008, 08:36 PM

You do not need an FFL to purchase ANY kind of ammo... and have it shipped to your door. Many places require a signature, but I don't have a problem with that. Some states/localities do have laws against some specialty ammo such as tracers, incendiaries, and such, but most don't. Just be sure your laws don't regulate ammo and you're good to go.

Check out both J&G Sales and Ammunition To Go. They both have a lot of good ammo and ATG has about all the specialty ammo you could want!

Mike82 · 02-13-2008, 09:05 PM

J-G sales was the way to go. Got 20k reloaded rounds for $3k. Hope they all work.

troy2000 · 02-13-2008, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by just_a_car

You do not need an FFL to purchase ANY kind of ammo... and have it shipped to your door. Many places require a signature, but I don't have a problem with that. Some states/localities do have laws against some specialty ammo such as tracers, incendiaries, and such, but most don't. Just be sure your laws don't regulate ammo and you're good to go.
Check out both J&G Sales and Ammunition To Go. They both have a lot of good ammo and ATG has about all the specialty ammo you could want!

I believe there are a few cities/counties that ban shipping of ammo to your door; might be worth checking on, if you're in a rabidly anti-gun jurisdiction.

just_a_car · 02-14-2008, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troy2000

I believe there are a few cities/counties that ban shipping of ammo to your door; might be worth checking on, if you're in a rabidly anti-gun jurisdiction.

Agreed, which is why I said:

Quote:

Just be sure your laws don't regulate ammo and you're good to go.

I think there are even some states that may ban that, too. Again, check the laws before purchasing, as with any firearms-related item!

02-05-2008, 02:25 AM	#22
ghost_raven Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 408 Trader Rating: (0)	I have to wonder what my grandpa on my dad's side would've thought of my Mosin. He was a Marine and was stationed at Los Alamos, where my dad was later born. No, I'm not BSing. Anyway, he was a very good marksman. Better than my dad... well, that may not be saying much. But he liked showing off and making smiley faces with bullet holes. lol... the thing that still gets me is his description of Winston Churchill, whom he was apparently appointed to protect while in the US... "Cheap bastard couldn't buy his own cigars." __________________ The First Amendment defines America, the Second Amendment defends it.

02-05-2008, 02:37 AM	#23
Zephri Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Indianapolis, IN. "The city where nothing happens." Posts: 1,021 Trader Rating: (1)	My personal favorite mosin is my sniper repro just because it can out shoot just about all the guns that I have. But I also like my m38 and my m44 and my m91 and my m91/30 and.......crap it's like choosing which kid you like the most. __________________ "All rifles need a sharp pointy object on the end!" http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l195/zephri/

02-08-2008, 08:16 PM	#25
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 535 Trader Rating: (0)	wow, nice vids, wish my fave Mosin would have the same effect on a deer that the shockwave had on that school bus My fave Mosin-Nagant is my 1936 M91/30, soon to be scoped. My fave Russian-made gun is my Rom-Arm WASR-10 underfolder. Soon to be owner of another mosin, didnt check to see what it was, but it looked like a short M91/30, and as I've heard it means it's either an M91/59 or an M38. Might keep it a while, but i prefer long rifles, so I might be selling it soon after, I'll put pics up when I get it and if I decide to sell it i'll announce it here so you guys get an early heads up. If the moderators have a problem with it, please respond or PM me, and I won't post anything about selling it. Thanks for the wonderful informative site. My fave sign is as follows: No Trespassers! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again! By the way, the milsurp yellow tipped 'heavy rounds' are going for $5/round here, very limited quantities. But, I saw where someone decided to test a couple out and they shoot thru cast iron at short range like it was butter. Shot a railroad iron at the thin spot and it actually went thru it, very surprised there, left a hole about size of a quarter, and cracked the rail. Have no idea if it was original yellow tip, or if it was a reload that someone packed alot of powder into, but the case was steel, and an FMJ with yellow on the end, and the throat showed a lil red. That was kool as hell tho, never seen a gun do that before :P Last edited by Mike82; 02-08-2008 at 08:25 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

02-08-2008, 08:44 PM	#26
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (0)	Sounds like the Hungarian Heavy Ball, of which there are three varieties listed on 7.62x54.net: Hungarian 1975 7.62x54r Steel Core Heavy Ball Hungarian 1970 7.62x54r Steel Core Heavy Ball Hungarian 1951 7.62x54r Lead Core Heavy Ball There's a couple others, like the Czechoslovakian 1953 7.62x54r Lead Core Heavy Ball and the Bulgarian 1955 7.62x54r Lead Core Heavy Ball which are both lead-core. The last of the Hungarian is lead-core, but the first two are "mild steel core". They're not "hardened steel" like armor-penetrating ammo, but it will certainly penetrate better than straight lead. I'm guessing it was likely one of the first two, of which you can discern from the lacquered or copper-wash case. Oh, and $5/round is highway robbery. Here's some 7.62x54R Bulgarian Heavy Ball FMJ ammo, brass case, 300 rd tin. that's $45.93+$19.13 shipping = $65.06/300 rounds = $0.21686/round See what I mean? Also, if you want some lead-core heavy ball, check this out: Ammunition To Go : 250rds - 7.62x54R Bulgarian Military 182gr. FMJ Ammo - $39.95 __________________

02-09-2008, 01:49 AM	#28
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,875 Trader Rating: (0)	Go to 7.62x54r.net and click on ammo comparisons for a ton of info on the milsurp you are shooting. Everything you ever wanted to know! Actually worth printing a well. Expect to spend a LONG time there! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-08-2008, 07:37 PM	#24
mosin31291 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 2 Trader Rating: (0)	i only have one mosin its a 91/30 i hpe to eventualy get a m44.

02-08-2008, 11:25 PM	#27
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 535 Trader Rating: (0)	Now that's a surprise, because here they advertise the silver tips as armor-piercing, and the yellow tips as tank-piercing, rofl Silver-tipped czech-made 185gr: 18.99/20 or 699/1000 Yellow-tipped (guessing hungarian-made) unknown grain: 99.99/20 or 399/50 but you can only buy 50 rounds a day due to "limited supply" So if I can get em for that price, maybe I can get a few friends to make it known that I'm selling for say $1/round of yellow tip and piss-off a few dealers That oughtta be interesting. Do you have to have an FFL tho to buy yellow-tip? Since from what i've heard they are consider military only ammo. May be just a rouse to make people pay more locally.

02-09-2008, 02:09 AM	#29
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 535 Trader Rating: (0)	Thx swede, doin that now. This stuff here is awesome, lotsa reading tho :P

02-09-2008, 03:21 PM	#30
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,875 Trader Rating: (0)	Yep, it takes a while to get through it all. But it's well worth it! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-10-2008, 08:36 PM	#31
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (0)	You do not need an FFL to purchase ANY kind of ammo... and have it shipped to your door. Many places require a signature, but I don't have a problem with that. Some states/localities do have laws against some specialty ammo such as tracers, incendiaries, and such, but most don't. Just be sure your laws don't regulate ammo and you're good to go. Check out both J&G Sales and Ammunition To Go. They both have a lot of good ammo and ATG has about all the specialty ammo you could want! __________________

02-13-2008, 09:05 PM	#32
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 535 Trader Rating: (0)	J-G sales was the way to go. Got 20k reloaded rounds for $3k. Hope they all work. __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!