M91/30 vs. M-44

LefthandShooter · 02-05-2008, 04:18 PM

Please offer opinions:
Which is better. I'm going to get one of these but was wondering if one is better than the other. I like the M91/30's looks better but is it more accurate, easy to care for, etc. Also, does it shoot good without the bayonet?
Do they both use the same ammo or does one take 7.62x54 and the other 7.62x54R. Does the two ammos
perform the same?
Thanks!

PS. I called Classic Arms Inc. and got throught with 2 rings! I ask one question about shipping but forgot to ask these. No answer 2nd try.

just_a_car · 02-05-2008, 04:30 PM

Neither is "better"... it's what you prefer. You will probably get a bit more accuracy out of a similar 91/30 over an m44, due to the longer barrel.

The 91/30 shoots fine without the bayonet. The m44 was sighted in with the bayonet extended.

Both are equally easy to care for. Just make sure to rinse with water (preferably hot and/or soapy and/or with ammonia) at the range to get out any corrosive salts if you're using corrosive ammo (which most 7.62x54R is, unless it specifically states it's non-corrosive).

They are not two different rounds, the R indicates that it is a "rimmed" round. If you saw someone type 7.62x54, it means they got lazy and didn't add the R on the end. Also, 7.62x53R is the same as 7.62x54R, just made by a different country for their rifles (Finnish, I believe, but not sure).

For more info, also go through all the posts here (many years worth of information archived) and check out http://7.62x54R.net

LefthandShooter · 02-05-2008, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by just_a_car

Neither is "better"... it's what you prefer. You will probably get a bit more accuracy out of a similar 91/30 over an m44, due to the longer barrel.

The 91/30 shoots fine without the bayonet. The m44 was sighted in with the bayonet extended.

Both are equally easy to care for. Just make sure to rinse with water (preferably hot and/or soapy and/or with ammonia) at the range to get out any corrosive salts if you're using corrosive ammo (which most 7.62x54R is, unless it specifically states it's non-corrosive).

They are not two different rounds, the R indicates that it is a "rimmed" round. If you saw someone type 7.62x54, it means they got lazy and didn't add the R on the end. Also, 7.62x53R is the same as 7.62x54R, just made by a different country for their rifles (Finnish, I believe, but not sure).

For more info, also go through all the posts here (many years worth of information archived) and check out 7.62x54r.net

AWSOME! All answered at once! THANKS A LOT!!!!
Now to wait until Saturday. FFF has the M91/30 on sale for $79.99.

billy · 02-05-2008, 04:43 PM

one of them is hands down dont look back better by a country mile!
sorry what was the topic?
91-30 is cooler looking .

Hawkeye sniper · 02-05-2008, 04:46 PM

I had to settle that question by getting both! You will like either one. They are both great shooters and ammo is not expensive. I found that with original sights my 91/30 shoots high and my M44 is dead on.

SwedeSteve · 02-05-2008, 05:23 PM

JAC hit it spot on! Only difference is length, with the M91/30 generally being more accurate. Gonna punch paper or make meat?

just_a_car · 02-05-2008, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

JAC hit it spot on! Only difference is length, with the M91/30 generally being more accurate. Gonna punch paper or make meat?

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.22guy · 02-05-2008, 07:51 PM

Get one of both. They are cheap enough you can do that.

marion57 · 02-06-2008, 02:06 AM

If you can find a rifle easier to take care of and dissasemble clean and repair it you better go buy it !!And if you cant get thro to Classic (seems a fimilliar thing) Try Aim or J&G, yes they both take same ammo and yes the 91x30 shoots well without bayo
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Hope that helps

tmfun · 02-06-2008, 08:29 PM

That is what I did. One is simply not enough! Especially at the price. You must have more than one Mosin! It's the law! So get both and now that the original anxiety has settled, you can start the search for the perfect Mosin. It is sort of like one of those McDonalds contests where you have to check all the pieces to see if you finally got thr right one. Until you own one of each, you will never know.

SwedeSteve · 02-10-2008, 01:13 PM

Ah yes, addicts love company... yes we do!

02-05-2008, 04:18 PM	#1
LefthandShooter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In A House in NE Ohio! Posts: 1,184 Trader Rating: (0)	M91/30 vs. M-44 Please offer opinions: Which is better. I'm going to get one of these but was wondering if one is better than the other. I like the M91/30's looks better but is it more accurate, easy to care for, etc. Also, does it shoot good without the bayonet? Do they both use the same ammo or does one take 7.62x54 and the other 7.62x54R. Does the two ammos perform the same? Thanks! PS. I called Classic Arms Inc. and got throught with 2 rings! I ask one question about shipping but forgot to ask these. No answer 2nd try.

02-05-2008, 04:30 PM	#2
just_a_car Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonds, WA Posts: 3,414 Trader Rating: (0)	Neither is "better"... it's what you prefer. You will probably get a bit more accuracy out of a similar 91/30 over an m44, due to the longer barrel. The 91/30 shoots fine without the bayonet. The m44 was sighted in with the bayonet extended. Both are equally easy to care for. Just make sure to rinse with water (preferably hot and/or soapy and/or with ammonia) at the range to get out any corrosive salts if you're using corrosive ammo (which most 7.62x54R is, unless it specifically states it's non-corrosive). They are not two different rounds, the R indicates that it is a "rimmed" round. If you saw someone type 7.62x54, it means they got lazy and didn't add the R on the end. Also, 7.62x53R is the same as 7.62x54R, just made by a different country for their rifles (Finnish, I believe, but not sure). For more info, also go through all the posts here (many years worth of information archived) and check out http://7.62x54R.net __________________

02-05-2008, 04:43 PM	#4
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,865 Trader Rating: (0)	one of them is hands down dont look back better by a country mile! sorry what was the topic? 91-30 is cooler looking . __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

02-05-2008, 05:23 PM	#6
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (0)	JAC hit it spot on! Only difference is length, with the M91/30 generally being more accurate. Gonna punch paper or make meat? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-05-2008, 07:51 PM	#8
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,066 Trader Rating: (0)	Get one of both. They are cheap enough you can do that. __________________ Guns: they are like baseball cards except they are cool and you can kill things with em. -Billy

02-05-2008, 04:46 PM	#5
Hawkeye sniper Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0)	I had to settle that question by getting both! You will like either one. They are both great shooters and ammo is not expensive. I found that with original sights my 91/30 shoots high and my M44 is dead on.

02-06-2008, 02:06 AM	#9
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,692 Trader Rating: (0)	If you can find a rifle easier to take care of and dissasemble clean and repair it you better go buy it !!And if you cant get thro to Classic (seems a fimilliar thing) Try Aim or J&G, yes they both take same ammo and yes the 91x30 shoots well without bayo J&G Sales AIMSurplus, your home for surplus ammunition, guns and firearms Curio and Relic Firearms - Mausers, M38s, M44s, M9130s, AK Rifles, Nagant Revolvers Hope that helps

02-06-2008, 08:29 PM	#10
tmfun Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0)	That is what I did. One is simply not enough! Especially at the price. You must have more than one Mosin! It's the law! So get both and now that the original anxiety has settled, you can start the search for the perfect Mosin. It is sort of like one of those McDonalds contests where you have to check all the pieces to see if you finally got thr right one. Until you own one of each, you will never know.

02-10-2008, 01:13 PM	#11
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (0)	Ah yes, addicts love company... yes we do! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers