M44 Newbie! First vintage weapon!

scdigger · 02-07-2008, 08:55 AM

Hey guys,

First post here. I've always loved hunting, shooting, history, but have never owned a vintage weapon. I stop in the local store from time to time, but have never purchased anything...until yesterday!

They had gotten a case of UNISSUED Russian M44's. Mint! at a price I couldn't afford NOT to buy one. So, not really knowing anything much about the gun, I purchased one dated 1944 along with strap, ammo pouch, ammo, cleaning "stuff" and a few other things I don't even know what they are. This is a beautiful weapon. I'll post pictures up later today.

Your guys enthusiasm for this gun is apparent and contatgious! Now I've got to learn about this weapon, and the little nuances of it.

Thanks and I look forward to posting here.

Greg

SwedeSteve · 02-09-2008, 12:49 PM

Welcome To G&G! There's a lot to read and learn right here. You're gonna love your rifle.

bigbuddy21 · 02-09-2008, 12:55 PM

welcome TO G&G first off i hate to bust your bubble but there is no such thing as an unissued mosin/nagant most all of them have been sent to be re-armored that is why their in such good cond. and 1 more thing the m44 was sighted in with the bayo. "fixed" if you shoot it "folded" it will shoot way left.

SwedeSteve · 02-09-2008, 03:31 PM

BB21 is right SC.

tmfun · 02-10-2008, 03:20 AM

You need to be aware that the little brass bottle that came with your gun has two partitions. One marked "W" and one marked "H". The "W" stands for Windex and the "H" stands for Hoppes #9. Just so you know.

roadie · 02-10-2008, 05:27 AM

The Nagant is a fantastic rifle, I have an M-38. You will truly enjoy it. Jus tbe sure to clean it after you shoot, all the ammo for it has corrosive primers.

texnmidwest · 02-10-2008, 07:34 AM

Mosins are addictive. I keep dreaming of a M39 but I can't stop buying 91/30s and M44s. Then there is the Swiss k31 and.....

Philip · 02-10-2008, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by scdigger

Hey guys,

First post here. I've always loved hunting, shooting, history, but have never owned a vintage weapon. I stop in the local store from time to time, but have never purchased anything...until yesterday!

They had gotten a case of UNISSUED Russian M44's. Mint! at a price I couldn't afford NOT to buy one. So, not really knowing anything much about the gun, I purchased one dated 1944 along with strap, ammo pouch, ammo, cleaning "stuff" and a few other things I don't even know what they are. This is a beautiful weapon. I'll post pictures up later today.

Your guys enthusiasm for this gun is apparent and contatgious! Now I've got to learn about this weapon, and the little nuances of it.

Thanks and I look forward to posting here.

Greg

the little teardrop thing is a combo screwdriver and firing pin depth checker/firing pin wrench. the little steel rod and hollow tube with holes in the end are (when assembled correctly) the handle for your cleaning rod.

im guessing those were the parts you didnt know what were.

ninwnc · 02-10-2008, 11:29 AM

Welcome to G&G. The guys and gals here will gladly answer your questions. I havent seen any Mosin-Nagant questions(as I recall) that have stumped this bunch.

Be careful of the cosmoline, on your rifle! It will cause MOSINITAS, and has no known cure. It's symptoms are undeniabledesire to purchase more Mosins, the ammo for them and all the ascessories that go with them. I surely hope there is a gun safe in your future purchase plans, because they breed! Really, just ask these guys! <G>

Nick

texnmidwest · 02-10-2008, 12:11 PM

NINWNC speak truth! Mosin birth control no workie.

marion57 · 02-10-2008, 07:27 PM

SC welcome
7.62x54r.net this web site has most everything you may want to know !! LOL be carful of some advise you may get the best advise is not to take any

toivo · 02-10-2008, 09:02 PM

Congratulations! Happy shooting!

One clarification: All the milsurp ammo is corrosive. The commercial stuff (Wolf, Sellier & Bellot), is non-corrosive, but it's $$$$$.

arkady · 02-11-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by scdigger

They had gotten a case of UNISSUED Russian M44's. Mint! at a price I couldn't afford NOT to buy one.

Hmmm... Are you sure about that? A well-refurbed gun (and most of them are refurbed) will look "unissued" to a newcomer's eye. Genuinely unissued Mosins do exist, but they're very rare.

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So, not really knowing anything much about the gun, I purchased one dated 1944 along with strap, ammo pouch, ammo, cleaning "stuff" and a few other things I don't even know what they are.

Does your M44 have a laminated stock?

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This is a beautiful weapon. I'll post pictures up later today.
Your guys enthusiasm for this gun is apparent and contagious! Now I've got to learn about this weapon, and the little nuances of it.
Thanks and I look forward to posting here.
Greg

Welcome to the club, and I hope you enjoy your first Mosin-Nagant as much as I enjoy my five.

To expand upon what others have said, yes, surplus ammo is corrosive. I shoot only my own handloads and the occasional Wolf Gold commercial ammo, so that's not a problem for me.

Yes, they were sighted in with the bayonet extended. If you prefer to shoot with it folded, just drift the front sight with a tack hammer and a punch, until it shoots straight.

As you've already discovered, these guns have a fascinating history, look nice, shoot well and don't cost an arm and a leg. Get'em now while they're still cheap and available.

In fact, you're probably ready for a 91/30 right now...

SwedeSteve · 02-11-2008, 07:43 AM

A 91/30, then a M38, then a M39, then a M91/59, then a Sniper, ooh, and a M28/30!

SanDiegoRedneck · 02-11-2008, 05:31 PM

Let me also extend a welcome to you. I am also new to the club and have had some problems with mine that I posted a cry for help on. You will find everyone ready, willing, and able to help you with any problems you might encounter.

02-07-2008, 08:55 AM	#1
scdigger Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: South Carolina Posts: 0	M44 Newbie! First vintage weapon! Hey guys, First post here. I've always loved hunting, shooting, history, but have never owned a vintage weapon. I stop in the local store from time to time, but have never purchased anything...until yesterday! They had gotten a case of UNISSUED Russian M44's. Mint! at a price I couldn't afford NOT to buy one. So, not really knowing anything much about the gun, I purchased one dated 1944 along with strap, ammo pouch, ammo, cleaning "stuff" and a few other things I don't even know what they are. This is a beautiful weapon. I'll post pictures up later today. Your guys enthusiasm for this gun is apparent and contatgious! Now I've got to learn about this weapon, and the little nuances of it. Thanks and I look forward to posting here. Greg

02-09-2008, 12:49 PM	#2
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,370 Images: 1	Welcome To G&G! There's a lot to read and learn right here. You're gonna love your rifle. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-09-2008, 12:55 PM	#3
bigbuddy21 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new albany in. Posts: 974 Images: 5	welcome TO G&G first off i hate to bust your bubble but there is no such thing as an unissued mosin/nagant most all of them have been sent to be re-armored that is why their in such good cond. and 1 more thing the m44 was sighted in with the bayo. "fixed" if you shoot it "folded" it will shoot way left. __________________ LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!

02-09-2008, 03:31 PM	#4
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,370 Images: 1	BB21 is right SC. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-10-2008, 05:27 AM	#6
roadie Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 635 Images: 10 Blog Entries: 1	The Nagant is a fantastic rifle, I have an M-38. You will truly enjoy it. Jus tbe sure to clean it after you shoot, all the ammo for it has corrosive primers. __________________ Blaming guns for violent acts is like blaming the keyboard for your poor spelling.

02-10-2008, 03:20 AM	#5
tmfun Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 69	You need to be aware that the little brass bottle that came with your gun has two partitions. One marked "W" and one marked "H". The "W" stands for Windex and the "H" stands for Hoppes #9. Just so you know.

02-10-2008, 07:34 AM	#7
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,450	Mosins are addictive. I keep dreaming of a M39 but I can't stop buying 91/30s and M44s. Then there is the Swiss k31 and..... __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

02-10-2008, 11:29 AM	#9
ninwnc Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Western North Carolina Posts: 435	Welcome to G&G. The guys and gals here will gladly answer your questions. I havent seen any Mosin-Nagant questions(as I recall) that have stumped this bunch. Be careful of the cosmoline, on your rifle! It will cause MOSINITAS, and has no known cure. It's symptoms are undeniabledesire to purchase more Mosins, the ammo for them and all the ascessories that go with them. I surely hope there is a gun safe in your future purchase plans, because they breed! Really, just ask these guys! <G> Nick

02-10-2008, 12:11 PM	#10
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,450	NINWNC speak truth! Mosin birth control no workie. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

02-10-2008, 07:27 PM	#11
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,882	SC welcome 7.62x54r.net this web site has most everything you may want to know !! LOL be carful of some advise you may get the best advise is not to take any

02-10-2008, 09:02 PM	#12
toivo Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 58	Congratulations! Happy shooting! One clarification: All the milsurp ammo is corrosive. The commercial stuff (Wolf, Sellier & Bellot), is non-corrosive, but it's $$$$$.

02-11-2008, 07:43 AM	#14
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,370 Images: 1	A 91/30, then a M38, then a M39, then a M91/59, then a Sniper, ooh, and a M28/30! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

02-11-2008, 05:31 PM	#15
SanDiegoRedneck Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 49	Let me also extend a welcome to you. I am also new to the club and have had some problems with mine that I posted a cry for help on. You will find everyone ready, willing, and able to help you with any problems you might encounter.