How do I correctly open a sealed tin ammo can?? - Page 7

marion57 · 03-22-2008, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by texnmidwest

You got da newer stuff! I ordered the older stuff and got the old spam can. No tool for this stud!

Tex the can he got is russian and as far as I know there th only ones that use that style can .. someon correct me if they seen another country use that style can.. The first ammo I bought was russian and in that style of can

Mooseman684 · 03-22-2008, 12:36 AM

Lots of countries use that green style can...I have Albanian, German, and Hungarian ammo in them....
Rich

Thepurplem0nkey · 03-22-2008, 01:17 AM

The stuff in the picture is the 1980's Russian ammo, NOT the 1940's Russian ammo also advertised on AIM. I'm getting that stuff next. I have a 1946 M44, and the older Russian ammo is from 1945-1950, so that makes it the same year as my rifle.
I had a can that was the exact same design, shape, and size from my Bulgarian heavy ball. I held on to the can opener from that order and now I have two! The other opener is green, the same color as the can.
Does anyone know why half of the casing is darker than the rest?
-TPM

Mooseman684 · 03-22-2008, 01:26 AM

The shoulders of the casings are annealed...hence the different color...
Rich

marion57 · 03-22-2008, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Lots of countries use that green style can...I have Albanian, German, and Hungarian ammo in them....
Rich

Was it 7.62 Rich?
I wonder if anyone has picture of the different cans this ammo comes in??

texnmidwest · 03-22-2008, 07:46 AM

Here are three different styles from AIM, Marion. First two are russian 1947, 1980s respectively and the last is hungarian.

marion57 · 03-22-2008, 08:48 AM

Thanx tex ! I have seen the first two but not the 3rd anyone else ??I have also seen and have the bulgarian spam can .. seems kinda interesting the different types ..
yeah I know I am strange hehe

texnmidwest · 03-22-2008, 08:59 AM

Not strange at all, Marion! I keep thinking about the poor saps that were in combat and trying to open those damn spam cans! Especially the older ones that were lead soldiered shut. That metal on those is pretty stiff. The newer ones seem to be light enough that if the need arises one could open them with a bayonet. Well, older ones too if your life depended on it but it would be harder to do.

billy · 03-22-2008, 09:02 AM

i bet they always had boatloads of those open.
does anyone know how many rnds. were issued to each soldier?

nevermind i just found it.

Six stripper clips each holding 5 x 7.62x54 rounds. soldiers with one of these mosin nagant rifles usually
were issued 1 set of 2 pouches, each holding 3 stripper clips per pouch. It was planned that soldiers
received 2 sets, but in reality most just got the single set of pouches. Furthermore normal streloks (=basic
riflemen) usually carried a pan magazine for the squad's dp28 light machinegun with 47 x 7.62x54
rounds. Snipers would either have 12 stripper clips in 2 sets of pouches or sometimes got 1 set of pouches
(=6 stripper clips) with an additional sidearm

texnmidwest · 03-22-2008, 09:27 AM

Yes, but did they get a rifle? Movie Enemy at the gates, our hero had to go into battle and pick one up!

Mike82 · 03-25-2008, 03:38 PM

i had to enter battle to get mine too........i fought a barrel of rust....ARRRGH, and i won....yeppers, i won the dreaded disease of mosinitis -.-

Iron_Colonel · 03-29-2008, 11:40 PM

I bought one at a gun show today from Albania. No tool. I couldn't find my damn chisel, so I went to work with a screw driver. Just open half of it, or even a quarter and or a third. Then you can fanagle some ammo out of it and make space for the other to slide down so you don't have to open it all the way. Unless you want a challenge or something

Anyways, gotta go do some shooting tomorrow with my new Mauser. Later guys.

texnmidwest · 03-30-2008, 06:37 AM

Hey Iron Colonel, we like mausers too! Let us know how it shoots! Shoot that Mosin as well! As you know Mosins cry if they ain't shot! They are not safe queens!!

SwedeSteve · 03-30-2008, 09:29 AM

The ammunition evaluation pages at 7.62x54r.net has photos of cans and crates.

Apollo Morelos · 03-30-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ingous

Thanks Damage! Wow, hammer and screwdriver, huh? Just seems wrong to hit a can with life ammo with a hammer. But, I don't have the canopener, so I gues I have no choice.

do you have a dremel tool?

SwedeSteve · 03-30-2008, 10:11 AM

Dremel's great for aluminum cans.

Apollo Morelos · 03-30-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

Dremel's great for aluminum cans.

Dremel's is good for everything if you have the right grinding disk. My tapco stock on my SKS is not made for with bayonet, but I got it rigged using my dremel tool.

SwedeSteve · 03-30-2008, 10:35 AM

Agreed! But I wouldn't use it to open ammo in steel cans!

asbraun4 · 03-31-2008, 05:00 PM

I'm buying a Mosin at a gun show this weekend....will it require all of this cleaning that Geo M44 mentioned? That sounds like it's hard but i wouldnt know this is my first old rifle. Will someone clue me in as to what to do right after i buy the gun, what to do before i shoot it i mean.

marion57 · 04-01-2008, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asbraun4

I'm buying a Mosin at a gun show this weekend....will it require all of this cleaning that Geo M44 mentioned? That sounds like it's hard but i wouldnt know this is my first old rifle. Will someone clue me in as to what to do right after i buy the gun, what to do before i shoot it i mean.

see my other post guy and remem

ber what swede said we are all here to help!!

03-22-2008, 12:36 AM	#122
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,200 Trader Rating: (0)	Lots of countries use that green style can...I have Albanian, German, and Hungarian ammo in them.... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-22-2008, 01:26 AM	#124
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,200 Trader Rating: (0)	The shoulders of the casings are annealed...hence the different color... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

03-22-2008, 07:46 AM	#126
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 2,964 Trader Rating: (0)	Here are three different styles from AIM, Marion. First two are russian 1947, 1980s respectively and the last is hungarian. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-22-2008, 08:48 AM	#127
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,668 Trader Rating: (0)	Thanx tex ! I have seen the first two but not the 3rd anyone else ??I have also seen and have the bulgarian spam can .. seems kinda interesting the different types .. yeah I know I am strange hehe __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!(Charlton Heston)

03-22-2008, 08:59 AM	#128
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 2,964 Trader Rating: (0)	Not strange at all, Marion! I keep thinking about the poor saps that were in combat and trying to open those damn spam cans! Especially the older ones that were lead soldiered shut. That metal on those is pretty stiff. The newer ones seem to be light enough that if the need arises one could open them with a bayonet. Well, older ones too if your life depended on it but it would be harder to do. __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-22-2008, 01:17 AM	#123
Thepurplem0nkey Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 59 Trader Rating: (0)	The stuff in the picture is the 1980's Russian ammo, NOT the 1940's Russian ammo also advertised on AIM. I'm getting that stuff next. I have a 1946 M44, and the older Russian ammo is from 1945-1950, so that makes it the same year as my rifle. I had a can that was the exact same design, shape, and size from my Bulgarian heavy ball. I held on to the can opener from that order and now I have two! The other opener is green, the same color as the can. Does anyone know why half of the casing is darker than the rest? -TPM

03-22-2008, 09:02 AM	#129
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,692 Trader Rating: (0)	i bet they always had boatloads of those open. does anyone know how many rnds. were issued to each soldier? nevermind i just found it. Six stripper clips each holding 5 x 7.62x54 rounds. soldiers with one of these mosin nagant rifles usually were issued 1 set of 2 pouches, each holding 3 stripper clips per pouch. It was planned that soldiers received 2 sets, but in reality most just got the single set of pouches. Furthermore normal streloks (=basic riflemen) usually carried a pan magazine for the squad's dp28 light machinegun with 47 x 7.62x54 rounds. Snipers would either have 12 stripper clips in 2 sets of pouches or sometimes got 1 set of pouches (=6 stripper clips) with an additional sidearm __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya! Last edited by billy; 03-22-2008 at 09:07 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-22-2008, 09:27 AM	#130
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 2,964 Trader Rating: (0)	Yes, but did they get a rifle? Movie Enemy at the gates, our hero had to go into battle and pick one up! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-25-2008, 03:38 PM	#131
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 535 Trader Rating: (0)	i had to enter battle to get mine too........i fought a barrel of rust....ARRRGH, and i won....yeppers, i won the dreaded disease of mosinitis -.- __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!

03-29-2008, 11:40 PM	#132
Iron_Colonel Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington St. Posts: 265 Trader Rating: (0)	Opening span cans of 762R I bought one at a gun show today from Albania. No tool. I couldn't find my damn chisel, so I went to work with a screw driver. Just open half of it, or even a quarter and or a third. Then you can fanagle some ammo out of it and make space for the other to slide down so you don't have to open it all the way. Unless you want a challenge or something Anyways, gotta go do some shooting tomorrow with my new Mauser. Later guys.

03-30-2008, 06:37 AM	#133
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 2,964 Trader Rating: (0)	Hey Iron Colonel, we like mausers too! Let us know how it shoots! Shoot that Mosin as well! As you know Mosins cry if they ain't shot! They are not safe queens!! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-30-2008, 09:29 AM	#134
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,875 Trader Rating: (0)	The ammunition evaluation pages at 7.62x54r.net has photos of cans and crates. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-30-2008, 10:11 AM	#136
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,875 Trader Rating: (0)	Dremel's great for aluminum cans. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-30-2008, 10:35 AM	#138
SwedeSteve Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 8,875 Trader Rating: (0)	Agreed! But I wouldn't use it to open ammo in steel cans! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-31-2008, 05:00 PM	#139
asbraun4 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12 Trader Rating: (0)	I'm buying a Mosin at a gun show this weekend....will it require all of this cleaning that Geo M44 mentioned? That sounds like it's hard but i wouldnt know this is my first old rifle. Will someone clue me in as to what to do right after i buy the gun, what to do before i shoot it i mean.