Adjusting sight.

thebluesbox · 03-15-2008, 10:17 AM

When I go to shoot I know I want to do my shooting with the bayo in. I have read that this will cause the rifle to shoot a little to the left and high, someone told me that I need to bring a brass punch with me to adjust the front sight, the front sight is dove tailed into place and my question is what am I doing??? Am I hitting the bottom of the sight sliding it over to left ot right? I dont want to hit the wrong spot and screw something up.

R5CYA · 03-15-2008, 10:56 AM

THIS IS A QUOTE FROM A BETTER SHOOTER THAN I. YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO SEE MY TARGETS. oops. caplock..
"you drift the front sight left or rightin it's dovetail. Looking through the sights, you would drift the sight to the right to move the strike of the round left, and vice versa. You will need a punch of appropriate size, and a brass hammer."
i think it was swedesteve that i stole that from.

SwedeSteve · 03-15-2008, 10:59 AM

Correctamundo! Remember it doesn't take much to move your POI a LOT! Do you have a witness mark on your sight?

marion57 · 03-15-2008, 12:52 PM

way I remeber is to follow point of impact!! shoots to left drift to the left front sight

thebluesbox · 03-15-2008, 01:31 PM

whats a wittness mark. forgive mystupidness

R5CYA · 03-15-2008, 01:49 PM

it's a mark made when you want to be able to see if two parts have moved. like a little line that no longer is connected when the sight gets tapped one way or the other. sometimes dots are used as well. i've never looked at my m44's mark so i don't know what it has.

oh yeah, sometimes it can be a dab of paint too but not on the mosin.

SwedeSteve · 03-15-2008, 02:07 PM

Sometmes the front sight is reassembled backwards, so you may have a line on both sides.

texnmidwest · 03-15-2008, 04:32 PM

Great info here. Some of mine have three witness marks.

Do the punches need to be brass as well?

R5CYA · 03-15-2008, 06:16 PM

whoah! glad you brought that up! i should have looked closer at what i was quoting. yeah, if you're using anything to move the front sight it should be brass. if not, you'll have some odd new "witness marks". if you're planning to put new marks to check if it ever moves, then a steel punch gets the nod.
good call there, tex.

marion57 · 03-15-2008, 06:31 PM

I use a sping loaded punch to mark things

SwedeSteve · 03-15-2008, 07:11 PM

^+1 Marion! You can use a plastic punch to drift your sight as well. It works best to have the barrel/sight supported. Normally, the first time you move it, it will take brass.

texnmidwest · 03-15-2008, 07:15 PM

Brass what there Steve? Brass B's? Too cold for those down here. I prefer preheated 440c steel with a rockwell hardness of 72

marion57 · 03-15-2008, 08:14 PM

gee tex what kinda hardness????opps better not go there .. never mind tex

texnmidwest · 03-15-2008, 09:00 PM

Might be wise Marion. Billy will ban us shore!

03-15-2008, 10:17 AM	#1
thebluesbox Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95	Adjusting sight. When I go to shoot I know I want to do my shooting with the bayo in. I have read that this will cause the rifle to shoot a little to the left and high, someone told me that I need to bring a brass punch with me to adjust the front sight, the front sight is dove tailed into place and my question is what am I doing??? Am I hitting the bottom of the sight sliding it over to left ot right? I dont want to hit the wrong spot and screw something up.

03-15-2008, 10:59 AM	#3
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,283 Images: 1	Correctamundo! Remember it doesn't take much to move your POI a LOT! Do you have a witness mark on your sight? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-15-2008, 12:52 PM	#4
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,865	simple way I remeber is to follow point of impact!! shoots to left drift to the left front sight __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!(Charlton Heston) Last edited by marion57; 03-15-2008 at 12:58 PM.

03-15-2008, 01:49 PM	#6
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 632	it's a mark made when you want to be able to see if two parts have moved. like a little line that no longer is connected when the sight gets tapped one way or the other. sometimes dots are used as well. i've never looked at my m44's mark so i don't know what it has. oh yeah, sometimes it can be a dab of paint too but not on the mosin. Last edited by R5CYA; 03-15-2008 at 01:50 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

03-15-2008, 02:07 PM	#7
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,283 Images: 1	Sometmes the front sight is reassembled backwards, so you may have a line on both sides. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-15-2008, 10:56 AM	#2
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 632	THIS IS A QUOTE FROM A BETTER SHOOTER THAN I. YOU DON'T EVEN WANT TO SEE MY TARGETS. oops. caplock.. "you drift the front sight left or rightin it's dovetail. Looking through the sights, you would drift the sight to the right to move the strike of the round left, and vice versa. You will need a punch of appropriate size, and a brass hammer." i think it was swedesteve that i stole that from.

03-15-2008, 01:31 PM	#5
thebluesbox Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95	whats a wittness mark. forgive mystupidness

03-15-2008, 04:32 PM	#8
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,395	Great info here. Some of mine have three witness marks. Do the punches need to be brass as well? __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-15-2008, 06:16 PM	#9
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 632	whoah! glad you brought that up! i should have looked closer at what i was quoting. yeah, if you're using anything to move the front sight it should be brass. if not, you'll have some odd new "witness marks". if you're planning to put new marks to check if it ever moves, then a steel punch gets the nod. good call there, tex. Last edited by R5CYA; 03-15-2008 at 06:16 PM. Reason: i'm a monkey banging on a keyboard

03-15-2008, 06:31 PM	#10
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,865	I use a sping loaded punch to mark things __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!(Charlton Heston)

03-15-2008, 07:11 PM	#11
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,283 Images: 1	^+1 Marion! You can use a plastic punch to drift your sight as well. It works best to have the barrel/sight supported. Normally, the first time you move it, it will take brass. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

03-15-2008, 07:15 PM	#12
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,395	Brass what there Steve? Brass B's? Too cold for those down here. I prefer preheated 440c steel with a rockwell hardness of 72 __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

03-15-2008, 08:14 PM	#13
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,865	gee tex what kinda hardness????opps better not go there .. never mind tex __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!(Charlton Heston)

03-15-2008, 09:00 PM	#14
texnmidwest Listen to yur Inner Hippo Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,395	Might be wise Marion. Billy will ban us shore! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)