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[just_a_car]

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

You are more than welcome JAC! When you've driven the road, you get to know all the turns! LOL In England, where it came from, it's pronounced Joff, and Joffrey. It was transliterated (read screwed up) into Jeff and Jeffrey!
If I am a kettle, pot, or frying pan, I expect to be filled with some beans, bacon, and taters, Marion!

Yup, and they bastardized the original German name "Godfrey" that means "God-peace" to get Geoffrey which was bastardized by the Yanks (us Americans) to get Jeffrey and all the other spellings.

What I say to people that ask why it's spelled that way, I say "How do you spell and pronounce George?"

[Cyrille]

Originally Posted by tnjeff

Hey Geoff, I bet they are related. I plan on dressing her up in my best padded case and showing her off at work. Those guys are pistoleros though, I doubt they'd appreciate a long tall gal. Can't wait to take her to the range. I'm sure between now and then though I'll have plenty of questions.

Hey! jus caus a guy eats, sleeps N shoots han guns don't mean he can't apprecate tall guns. Me I use the firearm thet fits th job. But I admit to favorin th revolver over th semi auto pistol.

[billy]

Originally Posted by just_a_car

Yup, and they bastardized the original German name "Godfrey" that means "God-peace" to get Geoffrey which was bastardized by the Yanks (us Americans) to get Jeffrey and all the other spellings.

What I say to people that ask why it's spelled that way, I say "How do you spell and pronounce George?"

thats easy!
george= hore hey

[marion57]

You come to Missouri Swede I promise you wont go hungery at my house no matter how skinny I look LOL

[Geo M44]

The Carbines are a lot more fun... fire and thunder.
Welcome to the site. This is a great bunch of knowlegable collectors (main knowlege from interacting on this board).
As far as spousal abuse over Mosinitus... as posted earlier: Count the pairs of her shoes, or other overdone clothing articles, in the closet (or elswhere). If the shoes cost more than $35 a pair (very likely) then that allows the purchase of one MN for each 2 to 3 pairs of shoes.
In my case that allows pretty much unlimited lifetime purchases. Be careful when using this tactic. Try to use it only in an emergency.
My wife hates guns, so it took a while (several years) but now I have 5 rifles and an M38 and Finn M39 on the way (I think). I keep them trigger locked in zippered cases so they all look the same, but I'm about to buy a gun safe... wifes suggestion

[sh4d0ww4rri0r]

Originally Posted by tnjeff

The receiver has the rough machine marks that I've read some of the wartime models have.

Jeff, assuming you have stripped your rifle, do those marks on the receiver look anything like the lateral lines or ribs on the barrel when the hand guard is off of it? The 91/30 that I am getting has those lines. If not, has anyone else seen anything like this before?

[Geo M44]

Pretty common. Polishing the outside was not a priority during the war years.

[big boomer]

Marion57 you look skinny compared to me. I just want to remark on cleaning around wives. Mine gave me hell for cleaning black powder in the bath tub I chipped the enamel and she said it smelled. I finally sold all my black powder and only have cartridge guns now. so I feel your pain.

[sh4d0ww4rri0r]

mine is a 1941 is that a wartime mass produced year?

[BaserRonin]

According to my looking-up-powers, there were 1,873,391 m91/30's made in 1941, split about evenly between tula and izhevsk. Izhevsk had 891,180 attributed to them from that...about half.

Things really geared up in 42 with over 3 million manufactured total, and then back down to 1.8 mill again in 44.

So you are in full swing with that 1941, yes

[sh4d0ww4rri0r]

thank you baser ronin! those are awesome powers that you have! hehe

[marion57]

Originally Posted by sh4d0ww4rri0r

thank you baser ronin! those are awesome powers that you have! hehe

Production Yrs and such can be found here!!
A lot of the questions people ask on here about Mosin nagant can be answered here ..I think that most of the guys that are new will find it fasinating and very interesting reading ( even some of the older members)
Just my .02 worth
7.62x54r.net

[sh4d0ww4rri0r]

been browsing that site for weeks now! love it!

[marion57]

Originally Posted by sh4d0ww4rri0r

been browsing that site for weeks now! love it!

+1 me too

[texnmidwest]

Originally Posted by sh4d0ww4rri0r

Jeff, assuming you have stripped your rifle, do those marks on the receiver look anything like the lateral lines or ribs on the barrel when the hand guard is off of it? The 91/30 that I am getting has those lines. If not, has anyone else seen anything like this before?

Not sure if I am thinking in the correct way or not but when I see those marks on the outside, especially on the receiver it tells me that the rifle has not been polished much when rearsenaled. The ones I have seen with those lines have not been counter bored and the bore looks better than those around the same era that do not have those marks.

[SwedeSteve]

I think it's probably like was said. Just gave up on niceties to increase output. But who knows? Maybe someones polisher broke, LOL.

[tnjeff]

Jeff, assuming you have stripped your rifle, do those marks on the receiver look anything like the lateral lines or ribs on the barrel when the hand guard is off of it? The 91/30 that I am getting has those lines. If not, has anyone else seen anything like this before?

Actually, I haven't stripped it yet. This weekend I hope. Got some ammo coming so it'll have to be soon.

Not sure if I am thinking in the correct way or not but when I see those marks on the outside, especially on the receiver it tells me that the rifle has not been polished much when rearsenaled. The ones I have seen with those lines have not been counter bored and the bore looks better than those around the same era that do not have those marks.

I've been wondering about this. I don't think mine has been counter bored, but I'll do the "bullet test" when my ammunition arrives. Since I've had it and been studying on it, I'm not sure it's been refurbished at all. I assume that it has but it makes me wonder exactly what they did in the way of refurbishing. I mean some of the finish is cracked and checked and the handguard is almost black for most of it's length. So I don't know.

[R5CYA]

mine was obvious. you could see sanding marks under the shellac, which was in too nice of shape to have been reissued. the numbers on the bolt and buttplate were sanded off and re-struck and the mag number was lined out. that and a 99% blueing were dead give-aways. oh yeah. counterbored as well.
now the 53 hungarian i got is a different story. looks fresh from a soldiers hands. got 60% blue, numbers match and battle scars all over the stock! it's got personality!

[SwedeSteve]

Almost ALL the M91/30's I'm seeing are reurbs.

[Geo M44]

Originally Posted by marion57

Production Yrs and such can be found here!!
A lot of the questions people ask on here about Mosin nagant can be answered here ..I think that most of the guys that are new will find it fasinating and very interesting reading ( even some of the older members)
Just my .02 worth
7.62x54r.net

When did you have time to save up $0.02? And here you've been poor mouthin' and holding out on us... eh?