Mosin Nagant information !

FS00008 · 08-11-2008, 01:18 AM

Called 2x4 bolt. You need a 2x4 to open it. You didn't clean the cosmo out of the bolt. When you get it open, strip it and clean as much and as hard as you can.

ravenblood · 08-11-2008, 08:02 AM

where can i find a 2x4

FS00008 · 08-11-2008, 11:33 AM

It's a figurative expression friend. 2x4 as in 2 by 4 as in, piece of wood. Try putting it on a carpeted floor and carefully trying to "Step" the bolt open. Make sure there is NO LIVE AMMUNITION in the weapon when you do so.

ravenblood · 08-11-2008, 12:15 PM

thanks i got thier is a bur in the camber and i have to polish it off. but it is a good gun all round.

ravenblood · 08-12-2008, 08:45 AM

what is the offical range on the 7.62x54.

Cyrano · 08-12-2008, 09:31 AM

That depends on who you want to believe. Natasha, my 1926 Izzy 91/30, has a rear sight scale that runs up to 2000 meters. But the longest shot I ever saw (on a YouTube video) with a Mosin was at a buffalo-shaped metal target at 850 meters and the bullet drop was substantial at that distance. The shooter, firing from a rest, did hit the target, though.

In theory, I suppose a master sniper or someone in that league of shooting ability could hit a man-sized target at that range. For the rest of us, it's more like the joke where the AK-47 shooter, the AR-15 shooter and the Mosin shooter are talking about what their guns can do.

The AK-47 shooter claimed he could hit the broad side of a barn from inside it.

The AR-15 shooter claimed he could put 20 rounds through a knothole at 300 meters.

The Mosin shooter claimed he could hit the barn from two counties away.

That's about right.

schnittzle · 08-16-2008, 10:26 PM

im looking for a mosin nagant 91/30 but no nothing about them .wats the best one to buy? im mean manufacturer and country maybe even years produced idk anything that would help

texnmidwest · 08-16-2008, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schnittzle

im looking for a mosin nagant 91/30 but no nothing about them .wats the best one to buy? im mean manufacturer and country maybe even years produced idk anything that would help

As for the 91/30s main thing to look for is the overall condition of the rifle and look for a strong bore. Expect some frost. But strong rifling. Next look for easy operation of the bolt. Try a couple of them to compare. A lot of them are counterbored now but that is not a deal breaker. All arsenals made great guns. If you can look for one of the post war models. Hard to find but should be better bores. Most of the rifles were re arsenaled so will be in great shape. Just find one that says "Take me Home Schnittzle!" And you will be well pleased. Oh, when you buy one expect to do a lot of cleaning before you shoot it. Even if it looks fairly clean it ain't. Read the sticky on cleaning and have a blast!!!

scienceman · 08-16-2008, 11:50 PM

Hey thanks for the information. I have never owned or for that matter even looked at them real hard. However, today after reading your post I went right out and purchased two. went in to get one and they had two that looked good so i took them home. they are both 91/30s havent hit the range yet but I cant wait. So now I will probably be on here asking you all some stupid questions.

P.S the cleaning will begin now

thanks again
Will

schnittzle · 08-17-2008, 04:49 PM

thanks alot man and what is counterbored ? and yeah i know all about the cleaning i have a yugo sks that was full of cosmoline

schnittzle · 08-17-2008, 05:18 PM

how can i tell if its strong rifling ? shine flashlight down the barrel and see if there corroded or somthing??

valalor · 08-17-2008, 07:39 PM

more or less. just look and see if the rifling is consistent, no pitting and stuff, I was told if its dark and not shiney, stay away..

cottoncuz4 · 08-18-2008, 05:57 AM

Marion,thanks for posting the Mosin Nagant info and links.I am a proud new owner of a matching #s 1891/30 ,and I just love it.The 7.62X54r.net site is wonderful.I just happened on this post and I am very glad I did.
Greg

cottoncuz4 · 08-18-2008, 05:59 AM

Marion,thanks for posting the Mosin Nagant info and links.I am a proud new owner of a matching #s 1891/30 ,and I just love it.The 7.62X54r.net site is wonderful.I just happened on this post and I am very glad I did.
Greg

RedneckCatholic · 08-18-2008, 11:31 PM

I got my M44 for 60 bucks. that, plus 300 rnds of hb totalled 120 bucks, plus tax--128 all up.

sncstealth · 08-24-2008, 01:50 AM

all of the rifles are more expencive down here i got my 91/30 with its excesories for 150$

sncstealth · 08-24-2008, 01:51 AM

wow i spelt that wrong

Purdy · 08-27-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shojinn

I got a question on how to change the head spacing on these old rifles.
My mossin m44 is hard to fully lock into position with a round. Before anyone tells me to clean it thoroughly let me say that i have. Many many times. I am wondering if this is a relatively easy thing for a gunsmith to do or is it not worth even trying to do. and if it is worth doing whats a average price range for such work?

I know this is late, but what kind of ammo were you using?
I bought 500 rds. of steel cased Russian mnf. stuff and about one in five won't chamber. It's not the gun, it's the ammo. It was made for machine guns and they don't work like a rifle and can digest ammo with greater tolerances.

AztecEmpire · 10-28-2008, 06:37 AM

Awesome, I just bought a big 5 lammy Russian mosin. It was an impulse buy. I liked the way it looked and read good things about them plus it was on sale for 99.99. It had a cycle and hammer stamp on the reciever cover. I live in califorian "sigh" so I'm in day 2 of a 10 day waiting period. Cant wait to take it to the range! Great post marion

generoll · 11-01-2008, 10:24 AM

Dunno where to put this so I'll try here. When I am shooting my 91/30 I notice that just before I release a round as I am drawing back on the trigger the cocking knob seems to move downwards. A nice visual indication that I'm right on the edge of the sear, but just a trifle disconcerting. I don't seem to notice this on my M39 finn. Any comments?

08-11-2008, 08:02 AM	#22
ravenblood Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4	2x4 where can i find a 2x4

08-11-2008, 12:15 PM	#24
ravenblood Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4	we got it. thanks i got thier is a bur in the camber and i have to polish it off. but it is a good gun all round.

08-12-2008, 08:45 AM	#25
ravenblood Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4	range what is the offical range on the 7.62x54.

08-18-2008, 05:57 AM	#33
cottoncuz4 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 2	Thanks for the info. Marion,thanks for posting the Mosin Nagant info and links.I am a proud new owner of a matching #s 1891/30 ,and I just love it.The 7.62X54r.net site is wonderful.I just happened on this post and I am very glad I did. Greg

08-11-2008, 01:18 AM	#21
FS00008 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 3	Called 2x4 bolt. You need a 2x4 to open it. You didn't clean the cosmo out of the bolt. When you get it open, strip it and clean as much and as hard as you can.

08-11-2008, 11:33 AM	#23
FS00008 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,657 Blog Entries: 3	It's a figurative expression friend. 2x4 as in 2 by 4 as in, piece of wood. Try putting it on a carpeted floor and carefully trying to "Step" the bolt open. Make sure there is NO LIVE AMMUNITION in the weapon when you do so.

08-12-2008, 09:31 AM	#26
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 6,917	That depends on who you want to believe. Natasha, my 1926 Izzy 91/30, has a rear sight scale that runs up to 2000 meters. But the longest shot I ever saw (on a YouTube video) with a Mosin was at a buffalo-shaped metal target at 850 meters and the bullet drop was substantial at that distance. The shooter, firing from a rest, did hit the target, though. In theory, I suppose a master sniper or someone in that league of shooting ability could hit a man-sized target at that range. For the rest of us, it's more like the joke where the AK-47 shooter, the AR-15 shooter and the Mosin shooter are talking about what their guns can do. The AK-47 shooter claimed he could hit the broad side of a barn from inside it. The AR-15 shooter claimed he could put 20 rounds through a knothole at 300 meters. The Mosin shooter claimed he could hit the barn from two counties away. That's about right.

08-16-2008, 10:26 PM	#27
schnittzle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mass Posts: 190	im looking for a mosin nagant 91/30 but no nothing about them .wats the best one to buy? im mean manufacturer and country maybe even years produced idk anything that would help

08-16-2008, 11:50 PM	#29
scienceman Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: On top of that rock over there Posts: 941	Hey thanks for the information. I have never owned or for that matter even looked at them real hard. However, today after reading your post I went right out and purchased two. went in to get one and they had two that looked good so i took them home. they are both 91/30s havent hit the range yet but I cant wait. So now I will probably be on here asking you all some stupid questions. P.S the cleaning will begin now thanks again Will

08-17-2008, 04:49 PM	#30
schnittzle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mass Posts: 190	thanks alot man and what is counterbored ? and yeah i know all about the cleaning i have a yugo sks that was full of cosmoline

08-17-2008, 05:18 PM	#31
schnittzle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: mass Posts: 190	how can i tell if its strong rifling ? shine flashlight down the barrel and see if there corroded or somthing??

08-17-2008, 07:39 PM	#32
valalor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 383	more or less. just look and see if the rifling is consistent, no pitting and stuff, I was told if its dark and not shiney, stay away..

08-18-2008, 05:59 AM	#34
cottoncuz4 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: West Texas Posts: 2	Marion,thanks for posting the Mosin Nagant info and links.I am a proud new owner of a matching #s 1891/30 ,and I just love it.The 7.62X54r.net site is wonderful.I just happened on this post and I am very glad I did. Greg

08-18-2008, 11:31 PM	#35
RedneckCatholic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: New Albania, the Ohio Valley Posts: 328	I got my M44 for 60 bucks. that, plus 300 rnds of hb totalled 120 bucks, plus tax--128 all up.

08-24-2008, 01:50 AM	#36
sncstealth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: lehigh Posts: 168	all of the rifles are more expencive down here i got my 91/30 with its excesories for 150$

08-24-2008, 01:51 AM	#37
sncstealth Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: lehigh Posts: 168	wow i spelt that wrong

10-28-2008, 06:37 AM	#39
AztecEmpire Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Salinas, California Posts: 67	Awesome, I just bought a big 5 lammy Russian mosin. It was an impulse buy. I liked the way it looked and read good things about them plus it was on sale for 99.99. It had a cycle and hammer stamp on the reciever cover. I live in califorian "sigh" so I'm in day 2 of a 10 day waiting period. Cant wait to take it to the range! Great post marion

11-01-2008, 10:24 AM	#40
generoll Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Branson, MO Posts: 258	Dunno where to put this so I'll try here. When I am shooting my 91/30 I notice that just before I release a round as I am drawing back on the trigger the cocking knob seems to move downwards. A nice visual indication that I'm right on the edge of the sear, but just a trifle disconcerting. I don't seem to notice this on my M39 finn. Any comments?