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11-01-2008, 03:01 PM
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#41 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Mooseman684 | It is pretty easy job for a KNowledgable gunsmith...One that knows Mosins...
I charge 20 Bucks , But I work cheaper than Most Gunsmiths , because I am No Longer doing it for a living...You will have to get a quote from Your local gunsmith...It takes me 15 to 30 minutes tops to do the fitting...
Rich | Get Mooseman to do it for you; the price of a Mosin is less than the minimum labor charge of most gunsmiths.
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11-23-2008, 12:59 PM
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#42 | | Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: st louis mo
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You may have to smack it with a 2by to get it to turn.(or a heavy rubber hammer)
I have found that with my M44, the surplus ammo seems to be the root of the sticking bolt problem. It seems that the case swells enough to case the bolt to be hard or almost impossible to cycle. After the bad time I had, I shelved the surplus stuff and went to Silver Bear (also Russian but non-corrosive) for the target practice thing. Sellier&Bellot make good hunting loads.
I hope ths helps
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11-23-2008, 01:04 PM
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#43 | | Registered User
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opps,
My last thought was directed at H.K. and ravenblood
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11-25-2008, 09:27 AM
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#44 | | Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2008
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| Scope
My girlfriend is geting me a mosin nagant m91\30 it has a straight bolt what would be the most simple and the cheapest way to put a scope on please reply my first gun is the mosin |
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11-26-2008, 10:33 PM
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#45 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2008
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| Using Surplus Ammo?
I have a very minty Remington model 1917 never battle issued Nagant '91 in my collection. These guys have a very short bolt handle that doesn't afford a lot of leverage to open after firing a fairly hot cartridge. A lot of surplus ammo on the market is loaded to function full auto machine guns and is a bit hot for the old bolt actions. My 1980's vintage boxer primed Hansen 180 gr stuff is no exception. Shoot the action with silicone spray such as CRC 556 and gently bump the bolt open with a rubber or leather headed mallet. Best advice is to handload with IMR 4064 or similar powder that doesnt try to weld the case into the chamber.
"biker" jeff
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12-08-2008, 01:24 AM
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#46 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by marcusdunn8192 | I shot my wifes washing machine with a CETME one night , she took the keys to the gun cabinet for two weeks!!!! | why was it loaded in the house? thats a no no
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12-21-2008, 10:41 PM
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#47 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Springfield Illinois
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I bought 3 Nagants and 600 rounds for $300.
Early Christmas for the young uns(15 and 17)
Took them shooting yesterday,they had a field day,
now I need to clean mine and try it out.
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02-10-2009, 08:33 PM
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#48 | | Registered User
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Hi...I just joined this sight. I own one of the rare Izhevsk M44s made in 1944. It was an impulse buy when I was also buying an old Winchester Model 70 in .30-06. I've had fun plunking with the M44. It fires nice and actually pretty straight. I thought it was throwing knuckle balls until my friend shot it and determined it was me...crap as he was able to hit the bullseye on every shot.....I've been shooting surplus ammo with no issues. |
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02-23-2009, 01:13 AM
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#49 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Monticello Maine 04760
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welcome caywood this is a great site . but be warned MN's multiply on their own . istarted with an M44 and now have two 91/30's to go with it. oh yes ijust ordered a m39 from gunsnammo enjoy
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02-23-2009, 01:15 AM
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#50 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Monticello Maine 04760
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i ment catwood sorry about that itype with two fingers
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02-23-2009, 09:27 AM
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#51 | | Firearm Aficionado
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I thought it was throwing knuckle balls until my friend shot it and determined it was me...crap as he was able to hit the bullseye on every shot.....I've been shooting surplus ammo with no issues.
| Bear in mind that M44s were sighted in with the bayonet extended - you may have better luck with it out (the bayonet, that is)...
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02-26-2009, 09:24 AM
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#52 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rural PA
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Originally Posted by texnmidwest | How can you shoot something if you have not put rounds in it?
To decock, lift the bolt handle to verticle. Pull the trigger and keep it depressed. Lower the bolt handle. It is now decocked.
Also, if you have rounds in it and want to unload. Simply release the floor plate and drop the magazine follower out. The rounds will drop out as well.
Oh, BTW, pull back on the cocking piece rotate it counterclockwise 1/4 of a turn. It is now on safe. |
Hmm learned something new today. I have a 1932 Hex receiver Nagant I got from AIM Surplus for $79 last year. I fitted it with a scope that mounts where the rear sight went with no mods. Great deer and plinking rifle!
I have large hands and to decock, I always just point weapon in safe direction, use trigger hand thumb to put PRESSURE on safety knob, pull trigger and ease pin forward.
I will have to try the verticle bolt method.
Last night I just picked up a Helwan 9mm pistol for $90..
Gotta love Mil Surplus.. who needs a pretty gun? Mil Surplus have more character and don't kill the wallet!
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03-04-2009, 12:02 AM
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#53 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Idaho
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i found a 1942 Izzy and Tula 91/30 for 90 and 80 bucks. who would pay that a MN?
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03-04-2009, 08:20 AM
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#54 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Originally Posted by Jonthemac10 | i found a 1942 Izzy and Tula 91/30 for 90 and 80 bucks. who would pay that a MN? | Not really sure of your question, but if they're in good shape - me. I would.
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03-09-2009, 10:29 PM
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#55 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Idaho
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Originally Posted by Jonthemac10 | i found a 1942 Izzy and Tula 91/30 for 90 and 80 bucks. who would pay that a MN? |
I am just wondering what a decent price for a MN is. that is all.
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03-31-2009, 10:27 PM
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#56 | | Registered User
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my wife and i just got our first mosin nagant, a 91/30 , seems to be brand new,1943,Izzy, never issued,still had cosmaline in places, and we are having the same problem that"shojinn" is talking about, with his m44, when the magazine is loaded and you go to chamber a round more often than not the bolt will not close,i did manage to force it closed and got it to fire three out of about nine tries,after carefully looking at the rounds that would not allow the bolt to close ,i notice a small mark where the little ejector hooky thing-a-kabob had made a small mark or dent on the round and i'm pretty sure that that hook is not going over the rim of the shell ,but pushing against it,there for makeing the bolt just a little to long to close and seat properly, i've wondered about filing it down a little to kinda smooth the hooks outer edges out a bit,but for now am searching the net for some place that will show me how to disasemble and reasemble the bolt, making it a touch shorter,i've had bolt action .22s and a bolt action shotgun in the past but have never come across this problem before. Would appreciate any good, knowledgable advise.
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04-08-2009, 05:59 PM
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#57 | | Registered User
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I understand that the surplus 7.62 ammo for the mosin nagant is very corrosive. Do I need to disassemble and clean the bolt mechanism itself after every firing session?
Last edited by pdalmolin; 04-08-2009 at 06:03 PM.
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04-08-2009, 09:53 PM
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#58 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Missouri KC area
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Originally Posted by pdalmolin | I understand that the surplus 7.62 ammo for the mosin nagant is very corrosive. Do I need to disassemble and clean the bolt mechanism itself after every firing session? | I don't. I've shot hundreds (and most have shot thousands) of rounds and cleaned the bolt face and bore with windex and Hoppes followed with oil. I tear down the bolts a few times a year just to clean, oil and check firing pin depth. I think everyone who shoots corrosive ammo will tell you it "aint no big deal". Shoot it, clean it and enjoy it.
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04-09-2009, 08:46 AM
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#59 | | Firearm Aficionado
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I understand that the surplus 7.62 ammo for the mosin nagant is very corrosive.
| I wouldn't categorize it as "very corrosive", but a quick scrub with a wet patch is desirable as soon as possible. It depends on your local humidity - the salts are corrosive because they are hygroscopic, which just means they pull water out of the air and hold it against the barrel. The humidity where I live is low enough that I've not seen any evidence of corrosion even after half a day.
Just soak a patch with water and run it through the barrel a few times, followed up with dry patches, and then clean as normal. Forget about all these exotic "salt-removal formulas" - yes, that includes Windex.
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04-28-2009, 08:11 AM
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#60 | | Firearm Aficionado
Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Indiana
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hey have any of you every shot a 91/30 at 700+ yards?
im wondering ecause im getting my side mount from kalinka optics mounted on my 91/30 pretty soon and i wanna know what the most accurate surplus ammunition would be
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