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04-28-2009, 09:26 AM
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#61 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Unfortunately it can vary rifle to rifle.
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08-19-2009, 04:03 PM
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#62 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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The reason the bolt needs the 2x4 persuadin' after firing,is usually because you are using lacquer coated casings...and sometimes,as mentioned earlier,cosmoline etc. Stay with clean brass or clean copper washed casings only. Other MN forums suggest this and I thought I would pass it along. Happy shootin' |
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11-04-2009, 08:27 PM
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#63 | | Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2009
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| First Rifle
I have just received my M91/30 today and it is my very first gun. I began to research for the care and maintenance of this wonderful rifle, as not to be an irresponsible ass. I began to cycle the bolt to begin to get a feel for the resistance. After the first cycle I noticed that it was very easily engaged, then I realized it was cocked. Surprised by my ignorance of how to uncock it, and in my haste to research it, I accidentally dry fired.
I became discouraged because I am aware that dry firing a gun is almost the worst thing you an do to it. I resolved to find the decocking method, and I did on this thread. As I understand it, you simply hold the trigger as the bolt is vertical, and while maintaining the hold on the trigger, you push the bolt down so the handle is horizontal again.
I did it and it decocked successfully. I decided to practice the decocking method and while practicing, I pulled the trigger while the bolt was diagonal. The bolt is stock so it is difficult to engage and I thought I had the handle completely vertical before I pulled the trigger. The firing pin clicked, but the click was much higher pitched than it was when I dry fired.
After a brief moment of self-chastising, I cocked and decocked it again successfully, and removed the bolt and looked it over. It seems no different than when I first got it, but than again; what do I know? I feel like an ignorant ass and that I somehow destroyed the bolt. It is my first gun and I might just be over reacting, but you never know. Do I have reason to worry?
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11-04-2009, 09:40 PM
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#64 | | Firearm Zealot
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mobile, Alabama
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Mosins are TOUGH! Dry fire them all you want.
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11-06-2009, 12:42 AM
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#65 | | Registered User
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Alright, thanks. That helps ease my mind. I guess I'm just a bit protective of my first gun. I even named her Elena. I know, I'm lame right?
However, I'm not sure where to begin buying tools to maintain my rifle nor what tools to buy. I'd appreciate any suggestions. I plan on shooting surplus ammo and I know about the extra steps needed to keep Elena all running smooth. I'm just not sure what to get.
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11-17-2009, 02:19 AM
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#66 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Marysville WA
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| help on finding things for my mosin  umm i am very new to owning a mosin and i have put about 100 rounds threw it and i love it and i want to make it my deer rifle any one help me for finding stock info and scope and mount combos help lol |
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11-17-2009, 11:51 AM
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#67 | | Firearm Zealot
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There are more topics here about scoping a Mosin and stock options here than you can shake a stick at. Use the search function.
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12-16-2009, 02:22 PM
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#68 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA - Lower Alabama
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| IS Gun Not SAFETY!
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Originally Posted by racdrof Went to a local gun shop this morning, looking for a Russian SKS, which they didn't have. Seen  a Russian Mosin Nagant 7.62X54. I know nothing about these rifles just the name. Swapped a pistol scope, rings and mount (had no use for them anymore). From the markings on the rifle it's a Izhevsk (Soviet Union), behind the rear sights it's stamped 1937. Stocks a little rough, no major dents or scratches, finish is off in a few places, 48 1/2" long. Like I said I know nothing about them, like where is the safety. I gave $20.00 difference for it. Did I do OK or did I get took?  | Like the man said, "This is my Safety". The weapons only 'safety' is when uncocked you can pull and half twist the cocking piece. That prevents closing the bolt but it takes the pressure off the spring as well. Collecting and Shooting the Mosin-Nagant 1891/30 - HISTORY is a great resource to answer many questions. No you didn't get took! I don't shoot mine with the baoynet on but it sure looks cool when hanging on the wall or just standing in the corner.
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12-16-2009, 02:25 PM
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#69 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Just don't name it Charlene!
Unless you go by the name Private Pile....
Take her to the range and puts some holes in the paper!
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12-16-2009, 02:27 PM
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#70 | | Firearm Enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: LA - Lower Alabama
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| 2x4 on the bolt
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Originally Posted by oldman_gamer The reason the bolt needs the 2x4 persuadin' after firing,is usually because you are using lacquer coated casings...and sometimes,as mentioned earlier,cosmoline etc. Stay with clean brass or clean copper washed casings only. Other MN forums suggest this and I thought I would pass it along. Happy shootin'  |
Cure is here Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2006) - Surplusrifle.com
Works great!
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12-16-2009, 02:33 PM
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#71 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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| Why you need your own space
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Originally Posted by marcusdunn8192 | I shot my wifes washing machine with a CETME one night , she took the keys to the gun cabinet for two weeks!!!! |
See if you had your own workshop this would not have happened.
Only took the keys for two weeks, you have a semi understanding spouse.
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02-04-2010, 07:21 PM
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#72 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Just picked up my first 91/30, a 1926 Hex Dragoon from Tula. Bore is bright and shiny, but it doesnt appear to be counter-bored. Looks like its been refinished a few times I can easily tell its been reblued. Got a few markings on it other than the standard Tula Dragoon ones like an I above the Star, two I's in a circle, a circle in a circle, an R in a circle, and what looks to be an n in a little square. Can anybody help me out on identifying these?
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02-04-2010, 07:27 PM
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#73 | | Firearm Aficionado
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I know that the R in a circle is the Remington proof and if the proof what looks like two I's could also be the Provisional Black Powder proof.
If you need to look up other marks, look here: Mosin Nagant Rifle Guide to Proofs and Markings
Just select the nation your rifle came from and look up what you want to know.
BUt also be aware, even the best of places don't know what some of these proofs mean, and unfortunately they may never.
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02-04-2010, 07:47 PM
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#74 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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There is also a P or what looks like an IP on the tang that I couldnt seem to find in any of the pics on 7.62, any ideas?
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02-04-2010, 07:59 PM
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#75 | | Firearm Aficionado
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No, sorry, thats an unknown to me.
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02-04-2010, 08:39 PM
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#76 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I got my self one
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04-07-2010, 04:58 PM
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#77 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Thanks very interesting .
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04-07-2010, 08:41 PM
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#78 | | Firearm Aficionado
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Thanks for the website info Marion. I have three of these fine rifles and never studied the markings.
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04-18-2010, 10:27 PM
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#79 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Great tip on decocking the mosin. I don't feel comfortable with the safety on these rifles. No Russian winter is going to stop that spring.
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04-19-2010, 07:19 PM
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#80 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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| "The Communist"
I got my Mosin at a gun show Saturday and shot it Sunday. The ammo was 30 rounds for $6. The 91/30 I got was unissued, dated 1943, no dings or blue wear, just lousy Russian finish. It came with a sling, bayonet, and ammo pouch. Numbers all match. Damn, it felt good to shoot a $105.00 rifle with ammo that cheap that went bang with every pull of the trigger. Nicknamed "the communist", this rifle is not for sale. My two sons and I had a Blast with this rifle. Get a couple for yourself. Splurge!
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