How Good Is This See-Thru Scope Mount?

Cyrano · 04-03-2008, 02:03 PM

I don't have the ability to drill and tap a Mosin. And I have heard people complaining about the poor quality of the replace-the-rear-sight rails, saying they don't lock down well and won't hold a zero.

Then I ran across this. I wish i could just isolate the pictures, but I can't.

Mosin Nagant See-Through Scope Mount - eBay (item 200213187086 end time Apr-10-08 03

23 PDT)

If it is as advertised, it may be the solution to the problem of mounting a scope on a Mosin. The thing is, It costs as much as an M-44 hereabouts and even with a C&R, almost as much as a 91/30. And that's before you add in scope costs.

My question is, has anyone used one of these? If you have, how does it mount? I haven't had a reply yet from the seller to that question. I've concluded that due to eye age I need a scope on my rifle. What I haven't decided is the best way to mount one on a Mosin. Thoughts?

Big Dog · 04-03-2008, 06:56 PM

Interesting mount - first I have seen it!

Another point though - you'll need to either modify your bolt with a bent handle, or buy one. More expense.

jmp8927 · 04-03-2008, 07:01 PM

The see-through part also isn't big enough to be practical. But that might just work. Looks pretty good.

ArkansasHunter · 04-03-2008, 07:04 PM

Hummm well I've used see through mounts on other guns and have never had any problems.
The set up in the picture is interesting to say the least.
One thing certain it should work but I would coat the screws real well with Loc Tite.
It seems a 2nd quick follow up shot might be off due to vibration after the rifle is fired the first time because it fastened down at one point.
Whats everyone else think ?

SwedeSteve · 04-03-2008, 07:22 PM

Cyr- This is a copy of a PE mount. I personally doubt the rail can hold zero with the weight of the scope and rings cantilevered that way. If you want this rig, buy a PE replica! If there is a structual engineer out there, tell me why I'm wrong...P.S., I have a BS as a minor!

marion57 · 04-03-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ArkansasHunter

Hummm well I've used see through mounts on other guns and have never had any problems.
The set up in the picture is interesting to say the least.
One thing certain it should work but I would coat the screws real well with Loc Tite.
It seems a 2nd quick follow up shot might be off due to vibration after the rifle is fired the first time because it fastened down at one point.
Whats everyone else think ?

We dont think AH .. Thats what we have Billy for !!!!

billy · 04-03-2008, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by marion57

We dont think AH .. Thats what we have Billy for !!!!

OK
i got my structural engineer/thinking cap on.
CONS:
1 looks dumb
2 cumbersome
3 twig/stick/clothing magnet
4 expensive
5 must modify bolt
6 looks dumb
PROS:
1 nice and complicated so you will be too busy installing to get in trouble with your hoodlum friends
2 expensive so you wont have any money to get in trouble with hoodlum friends
3 hoodlum friends will tire of waiting for you so will leave to go shoot the mosins they installed scout scopes on so mother will be happy you are in your room quietly working on "some gun thing".

texnmidwest · 04-03-2008, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

OK
i got my structural engineer/thinking cap on.
CONS:
1 looks dumb
2 cumbersome
3 twig/stick/clothing magnet
4 expensive
5 must modify bolt
6 looks dumb
PROS:
1 nice and complicated so you will be too busy installing to get in trouble with your hoodlum friends
2 expensive so you wont have any money to get in trouble with hoodlum friends
3 hoodlum friends will tire of waiting for you so will leave to go shoot the mosins they installed scout scopes on so mother will be happy you are in your room quietly working on "some gun thing".

Wisdom beyond his years. Or is that ...beyond his ears?

ArkansasHunter · 04-03-2008, 08:01 PM

I think it's his ears LOL

Geo M44 · 04-03-2008, 09:06 PM

LMAO.

Billy... you do have your moments.

billy · 04-03-2008, 09:12 PM

oh lordy knows i try......

Mooseman684 · 04-03-2008, 09:49 PM

Billy,
That actually made Sense to Me....LOL
Rich

billy · 04-03-2008, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Billy,
That actually made Sense to Me....LOL
Rich

NOW i AM worried!
did i accidentally make some sense?
i thought i was speaking in tongues

bigbuddy21 · 04-03-2008, 10:49 PM

another thing with that set-up, with the recoil that scope will put a nice dinger around your eye.

marion57 · 04-04-2008, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

NOW i AM worried!
did i accidentally make some sense?
i thought i was speaking in tongues

Dont you worry Billy I knew you wouldnt let me down .. so there AH he he

texnmidwest · 04-04-2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billy

NOW i AM worried!
did i accidentally make some sense?
i thought i was speaking in tongues

Nope, tongues are all tied up right now.

thebluesbox · 04-04-2008, 09:35 AM

on top of everything you will need to get your bolt altered with the bent arm. Doesnt really say how it mounts but it does say no drilling maybe it mounts bedded under the barrel or something, which is kinda funky.

texnmidwest · 04-04-2008, 10:41 AM

I took a good look at the rifle in the ad. The stock looks like an aftermarket red laminate stock. That looks darn good on that rifle! I wonder if he make that himself or if there is a vendor out there selling them?

Really dressed up that old Mosin!

SwedeSteve · 04-04-2008, 12:47 PM

I think the PE or PU mount makes more sense. At least as a repro it will look nice! The PE doesn't require cutting the stock either.

gandog56 · 04-10-2008, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Dog

Interesting mount - first I have seen it!

Another point though - you'll need to either modify your bolt with a bent handle, or buy one. More expense.

Weaver rail can be mounted forward or rearward, allowing you to use a standard scope with a sniper bolt or a scout scope with the stock straight bolt.

04-03-2008, 02:03 PM	#1
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 1,959 Trader Rating: (0)	How Good Is This See-Thru Scope Mount? I don't have the ability to drill and tap a Mosin. And I have heard people complaining about the poor quality of the replace-the-rear-sight rails, saying they don't lock down well and won't hold a zero. Then I ran across this. I wish i could just isolate the pictures, but I can't. Mosin Nagant See-Through Scope Mount - eBay (item 200213187086 end time Apr-10-08 0323 PDT) If it is as advertised, it may be the solution to the problem of mounting a scope on a Mosin. The thing is, It costs as much as an M-44 hereabouts and even with a C&R, almost as much as a 91/30. And that's before you add in scope costs. My question is, has anyone used one of these? If you have, how does it mount? I haven't had a reply yet from the seller to that question. I've concluded that due to eye age I need a scope on my rifle. What I haven't decided is the best way to mount one on a Mosin. Thoughts?

04-03-2008, 06:56 PM	#2
Big Dog Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tallahassee, Florida Posts: 10,067 Trader Rating: (0)	Interesting mount - first I have seen it! Another point though - you'll need to either modify your bolt with a bent handle, or buy one. More expense. __________________ Moderator of: AR15/M16, M14/M1A, New/Beginning Shooters and Militaria/Collectables.

04-03-2008, 07:01 PM	#3
jmp8927 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Walterboro, SC Posts: 1,103 Trader Rating: (0)	The see-through part also isn't big enough to be practical. But that might just work. Looks pretty good. __________________ Doing the unexpected makes the unexpected the expected and thus the expected becomes the unexpected.

04-03-2008, 07:22 PM	#5
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (0)	Cyr- This is a copy of a PE mount. I personally doubt the rail can hold zero with the weight of the scope and rings cantilevered that way. If you want this rig, buy a PE replica! If there is a structual engineer out there, tell me why I'm wrong...P.S., I have a BS as a minor! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-03-2008, 09:12 PM	#11
billy spiritual counselor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 10,865 Trader Rating: (0)	oh lordy knows i try...... __________________ i'll keep an eye out for ya!

04-03-2008, 07:04 PM	#4
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,521 Trader Rating: (0)	Hummm well I've used see through mounts on other guns and have never had any problems. The set up in the picture is interesting to say the least. One thing certain it should work but I would coat the screws real well with Loc Tite. It seems a 2nd quick follow up shot might be off due to vibration after the rifle is fired the first time because it fastened down at one point. Whats everyone else think ?

04-03-2008, 08:01 PM	#9
ArkansasHunter Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 10,521 Trader Rating: (0)	I think it's his ears LOL

04-03-2008, 09:06 PM	#10
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,023 Trader Rating: (0)	LMAO. Billy... you do have your moments.

04-03-2008, 09:49 PM	#12
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,266 Trader Rating: (0)	Billy, That actually made Sense to Me....LOL Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-03-2008, 10:49 PM	#14
bigbuddy21 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: new albany in. Posts: 965 Trader Rating: (0)	another thing with that set-up, with the recoil that scope will put a nice dinger around your eye. __________________ LAND OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!

04-04-2008, 09:35 AM	#17
thebluesbox Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 95 Trader Rating: (0)	on top of everything you will need to get your bolt altered with the bent arm. Doesnt really say how it mounts but it does say no drilling maybe it mounts bedded under the barrel or something, which is kinda funky.

04-04-2008, 10:41 AM	#18
texnmidwest Senior Bear Fluffer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 3,021 Trader Rating: (0)	I took a good look at the rifle in the ad. The stock looks like an aftermarket red laminate stock. That looks darn good on that rifle! I wonder if he make that himself or if there is a vendor out there selling them? Really dressed up that old Mosin! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

04-04-2008, 12:47 PM	#19
SwedeSteve Grumpy Old Fart Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: AnchorTown, Alaska Posts: 9,135 Trader Rating: (0)	I think the PE or PU mount makes more sense. At least as a repro it will look nice! The PE doesn't require cutting the stock either. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers