round will not chamber

mitch009 · 04-15-2008, 11:44 PM

When I first got my 91/30 and went to shoot it I was able to fire 1 round and then couldn't get any more rounds to chamber. What I mean by that is I could slide the bolt all the way forward and about halfway closed and it would stop. So I cleaned it as best as i could with boiling water and hoppes and went at the chamber with some brass brushes for a while, When I went to shoot it again a few weeks later it wouldn't even chamber the first round like it had before. I'm pretty sure it is just the bolt because I can use a different bolt from my m44 in it just fine. Any ideas?

marion57 · 04-16-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mitch009

When I first got my 91/30 and went to shoot it I was able to fire 1 round and then couldn't get any more rounds to chamber. What I mean by that is I could slide the bolt all the way forward and about halfway closed and it would stop. So I cleaned it as best as i could with boiling water and hoppes and went at the chamber with some brass brushes for a while, When I went to shoot it again a few weeks later it wouldn't even chamber the first round like it had before. I'm pretty sure it is just the bolt because I can use a different bolt from my m44 in it just fine. Any ideas?

yepper its a bolt problem i suggest you take bolt apart and clean it good with brake or carb cleaner and re oil it . I would take a good look at the ejector it may be bent , you can compare it to your m44

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R5CYA · 04-16-2008, 12:22 AM

i've got a hungarian m44 that does that some times as well. seems like every 8th round i have to smack the bolt handle down to get it chambered. i had some dummy rounds that i tried in it when i got it and i needed a mallet to close the bolt on them and one got stuck. lesson learned. i'll not try to put once fired brass from any other mosin into that chamber again. i cleaned out the chamber with a 20guage brush with some 000 steel wool on a drill and got it spotless, but it still was acting up. gotsome guages on the way to check headspace. not too worried bout it though rather have it tight then loose. i'm hoping after a few hundred more rounds it'll loosen up a bit.
DON"T BE TEMPTED TO GO SHOOT IT WITH THE M44 BOLT UNLESS YOU CHECK THE HEADSPACE WITH THAT BOLT IN THE 91/30. TOO LOOSE CAN BE VERY BAD.

marion57 · 04-16-2008, 12:32 AM

good satey advise but I doubt if it fits in the rifle good he will have a problem.. the russians didnt and they swapped out bolts like candy

R5CYA · 04-16-2008, 12:40 AM

wonder if they used a guage when they rearsenaled all those weapons?
i'm probably just a wuss, but i can't help thinking of the consequences that could result. makes me cringe when pulling the trigger on a new rifle.

mitch009 · 04-16-2008, 02:13 AM

Well what does it mean when I'm at the part during the bolt break down where you push the firing pin into the board and unscrew the knob and when I'm unscrewing it, it just keeps spinning and doesn't come off.

Mooseman684 · 04-16-2008, 02:16 AM

You have to have the Tool holding the firing pin at the flat part...Like a wrench as you spin the Knob....It is hella spring Loaded !!! also you have to set the firing pin depth properly or you will have problems, it has to be betwwen 75 and 95 on the Screwdriver tool !
Rich

marion57 · 04-16-2008, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by R5CYA

wonder if they used a guage when they rearsenaled all those weapons?
i'm probably just a wuss, but i can't help thinking of the consequences that could result. makes me cringe when pulling the trigger on a new rifle.

I think its a requirement on the importer unless he specifys it hasnt been checked that they check head space besides I think its a liability issue I am sure they check it at the factory when its refurbished .. If you have doubts tie a string to the trigger and fire it from a distance with the rifle tied down .. As far as being a wuss I doubt anyone would ever fault you on a safety issue!

SwedeSteve · 04-16-2008, 09:54 AM

Mike82 · 04-18-2008, 12:17 AM

hmmm, when i built my bolt (from parts kit online), i never checked for headspace....guessing it's good tho, since there's no empty space where my head would be.

marion57 · 04-18-2008, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike82

hmmm, when i built my bolt (from parts kit online), i never checked for headspace....guessing it's good tho, since there's no empty space where my head would be.

LOL mike join the club

SwedeSteve · 04-18-2008, 07:41 AM

If you had a head, LOL!

marion57 · 04-18-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

If you had a head, LOL!

Of all the things in my lifetime I have lost I miss my mind the Most

Mike82 · 04-18-2008, 10:35 PM

Oh yeahhh....if headspace wasnt correct and the gun blew up, it'd remove my winky....considering us hicks always climb tree-stands with gun pointed up and in front of us with muzzle next to face and chamber next to our "special friend"....so i guess i dont need a head for that mishap to ummm happen....that's why it's called a mishap, cuz i've always "missed it happening".

marion57 · 04-19-2008, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike82

Oh yeahhh....if headspace wasnt correct and the gun blew up, it'd remove my winky....considering us hicks always climb tree-stands with gun pointed up and in front of us with muzzle next to face and chamber next to our "special friend"....so i guess i dont need a head for that mishap to ummm happen....that's why it's called a mishap, cuz i've always "missed it happening".

hmmmm they have hicks in mississippi??
I thought that was a arkansas thing?

04-15-2008, 11:44 PM	#1
mitch009 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: WA Posts: 129	round will not chamber When I first got my 91/30 and went to shoot it I was able to fire 1 round and then couldn't get any more rounds to chamber. What I mean by that is I could slide the bolt all the way forward and about halfway closed and it would stop. So I cleaned it as best as i could with boiling water and hoppes and went at the chamber with some brass brushes for a while, When I went to shoot it again a few weeks later it wouldn't even chamber the first round like it had before. I'm pretty sure it is just the bolt because I can use a different bolt from my m44 in it just fine. Any ideas?

04-16-2008, 12:32 AM	#4
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 2,880	good satey advise but I doubt if it fits in the rifle good he will have a problem.. the russians didnt and they swapped out bolts like candy __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers!(Charlton Heston)

04-16-2008, 02:16 AM	#7
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness Posts: 9,668 Images: 2	You have to have the Tool holding the firing pin at the flat part...Like a wrench as you spin the Knob....It is hella spring Loaded !!! also you have to set the firing pin depth properly or you will have problems, it has to be betwwen 75 and 95 on the Screwdriver tool ! Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

04-16-2008, 09:54 AM	#9
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,346 Images: 1	+1. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-18-2008, 12:17 AM	#10
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 1,027 Images: 7	hmmm, when i built my bolt (from parts kit online), i never checked for headspace....guessing it's good tho, since there's no empty space where my head would be. __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!

04-16-2008, 12:22 AM	#3
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 636	i've got a hungarian m44 that does that some times as well. seems like every 8th round i have to smack the bolt handle down to get it chambered. i had some dummy rounds that i tried in it when i got it and i needed a mallet to close the bolt on them and one got stuck. lesson learned. i'll not try to put once fired brass from any other mosin into that chamber again. i cleaned out the chamber with a 20guage brush with some 000 steel wool on a drill and got it spotless, but it still was acting up. gotsome guages on the way to check headspace. not too worried bout it though rather have it tight then loose. i'm hoping after a few hundred more rounds it'll loosen up a bit. DON"T BE TEMPTED TO GO SHOOT IT WITH THE M44 BOLT UNLESS YOU CHECK THE HEADSPACE WITH THAT BOLT IN THE 91/30. TOO LOOSE CAN BE VERY BAD.

04-16-2008, 12:40 AM	#5
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 636	wonder if they used a guage when they rearsenaled all those weapons? i'm probably just a wuss, but i can't help thinking of the consequences that could result. makes me cringe when pulling the trigger on a new rifle.

04-16-2008, 02:13 AM	#6
mitch009 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: WA Posts: 129	Well what does it mean when I'm at the part during the bolt break down where you push the firing pin into the board and unscrew the knob and when I'm unscrewing it, it just keeps spinning and doesn't come off.

04-18-2008, 07:41 AM	#12
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 10,346 Images: 1	If you had a head, LOL! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

04-18-2008, 10:35 PM	#14
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 1,027 Images: 7	Oh yeahhh....if headspace wasnt correct and the gun blew up, it'd remove my winky....considering us hicks always climb tree-stands with gun pointed up and in front of us with muzzle next to face and chamber next to our "special friend"....so i guess i dont need a head for that mishap to ummm happen....that's why it's called a mishap, cuz i've always "missed it happening". __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!