Want to be as good as a Sniper?

Capt'n Mil Coll · 04-16-2008, 01:04 PM

Really good info on snipers in WWII. List of known sniper kills. And at the bottom how to be a sniper and a Q&E with three top snipers.

Snipers of World War Two By Christopher Eger

FS00008 · 04-16-2008, 01:48 PM

I've seen that site before. The "How To" is a pretty bad translation from Russian, but it is pretty cool!

soonerborn · 04-16-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Mil Coll

Really good info on snipers in WWII. List of known sniper kills. And at the bottom how to be a sniper and a Q&E with three top snipers.

Snipers of World War Two By Christopher Eger

All of the snipers were Russian. The best sniper with a nagant, or any weapon for that matter, is Simo Hayha (sp?), not even mentioned.

lastman · 04-16-2008, 06:27 PM

was trained at a very young age to be a sniper in the marine corp.And was then sent on to various marine detachments around the world including french Marrocco never did use that training-but it sure has helped in my hunting of elk and deer and am now 70yrs old, so thank you USMC.

FS00008 · 04-16-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by soonerborn

All of the snipers were Russian. The best sniper with a nagant, or any weapon for that matter, is Simo Hayha (sp?), not even mentioned.

Yes, but he was Finnish, not Russian.

Simo HÃ¤yhÃ¤ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Capt'n Mil Coll · 04-16-2008, 08:59 PM

Umm look again Simo is the very top one listed.

Mooseman684 · 04-16-2008, 09:21 PM

AND...Simo used OPEN Sights !!!
No scopes for him...That's a Sniper !
Rich

FS00008 · 04-16-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Mil Coll

Umm look again Simo is the very top one listed.

I didn't dispute he was a good Sniper. He's just not Russian.

It even says on the page! He was Finnish, not Russian. He fought against the Red Army.

Capt'n Mil Coll · 04-16-2008, 10:40 PM

Yes I know in the Finnish Soviet winter war of 1939 1940. I was just stating that he was listed not that he wasnt Finnish.
Now that Mooseman isnt listed but he has 12,623 confirmed kills but its all hush hush.

marion57 · 04-17-2008, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt'n Mil Coll

Yes I know in the Finnish Soviet winter war of 1939 1940. I was just stating that he was listed not that he wasnt Finnish.
Now that Mooseman isnt listed but he has 12,623 confirmed kills but its all hush hush.

yeah but you cant count caribo!!

FS00008 · 04-17-2008, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by marion57

yeah but you cant count caribo!!

Oh, ok... so 12,621 kills then?

marion57 · 04-17-2008, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by FS00008

Oh, ok... so 12,621 kills then?

no they were all caribo !

SwedeSteve · 04-17-2008, 08:47 AM

What's Moose got against caribean's?

FS00008 · 04-17-2008, 09:44 AM

LoL, alright, so you had unknown number of kills against Caribou, 1000 deer, and 11,263 of other types?

Hahaha

soonerborn · 04-17-2008, 05:32 PM

hmm, didnt even see all the material under the first group of pics. I dont believe that anything from the WWII sniper list down was there when I looked, or either my browser for some reason didnt load it.

Yep, I know Simo was Finnish, I have watched a few interviews he gave in the late 90s to Finn Nagant collectors. Small guy, size wize but what soldier.

FS00008 · 04-17-2008, 08:05 PM

I have to wonder. What was his longest (distance) confirmed kill? Does anyone know?

Capt'n Mil Coll · 04-17-2008, 11:13 PM

They didnt have Simo on there but there is a Q&A of these three on the bottom of the page.

6. What was the range of the furthest target you ever fired at, and what kind of target, size?

A. About 1,000 meters. Standing soldier. Positive hitting not possible, but necessary under the circumstances in order to show enemy that he is not safe even at that distance! Or superior wanted to satisfy himself about capability.

B. 400 to 700 meters.

C. About 600 meters, rarely more. I usually waited until target approached further for better chance of hitting. Also confirmation of successful hit was easier. Used G43 only to about 500 meters because of poor ballistics.

A. Matthäus Hetzenauer of Tyrol fought at the Eastern Front from 1943 to the end of the war, and with 345 certified hits is the most successful German sniper.

B. Sepp Allerberg of Salzburg fought at the Eastern Front from December 1942, to the end of the war, and with 257 certified hits is the second-best German sniper.

C. Helmut Wirnsberger of Styria fought at the Eastern Front from September 1942, to the end of the war and scored 64 certified hits.

marion57 · 04-18-2008, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

What's Moose got against caribean's?

Isnt alaska in competition for tourist with the caribeans?

Mike82 · 04-18-2008, 10:44 PM

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04-16-2008, 01:04 PM	#1
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Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,260 Images: 10	Umm look again Simo is the very top one listed. __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens!

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Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,260 Images: 10	Yes I know in the Finnish Soviet winter war of 1939 1940. I was just stating that he was listed not that he wasnt Finnish. Now that Mooseman isnt listed but he has 12,623 confirmed kills but its all hush hush. __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens! Last edited by Capt'n Mil Coll; 04-16-2008 at 10:45 PM.

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FS00008 Сергей Иванович Мосин Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 954 Blog Entries: 1	I've seen that site before. The "How To" is a pretty bad translation from Russian, but it is pretty cool!

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lastman Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: high desert of central, oregon Posts: 19	was trained at a very young age to be a sniper in the marine corp.And was then sent on to various marine detachments around the world including french Marrocco never did use that training-but it sure has helped in my hunting of elk and deer and am now 70yrs old, so thank you USMC.

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FS00008 Сергей Иванович Мосин Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 954 Blog Entries: 1	LoL, alright, so you had unknown number of kills against Caribou, 1000 deer, and 11,263 of other types? Hahaha Last edited by FS00008; 04-17-2008 at 09:46 AM.

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soonerborn Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 320	hmm, didnt even see all the material under the first group of pics. I dont believe that anything from the WWII sniper list down was there when I looked, or either my browser for some reason didnt load it. Yep, I know Simo was Finnish, I have watched a few interviews he gave in the late 90s to Finn Nagant collectors. Small guy, size wize but what soldier.

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FS00008 Сергей Иванович Мосин Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: California Posts: 954 Blog Entries: 1	I have to wonder. What was his longest (distance) confirmed kill? Does anyone know?

04-17-2008, 11:13 PM	#17
Capt'n Mil Coll Military Rifle Collector Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right behind you. -NRA Member- Posts: 2,260 Images: 10	They didnt have Simo on there but there is a Q&A of these three on the bottom of the page. 6. What was the range of the furthest target you ever fired at, and what kind of target, size? A. About 1,000 meters. Standing soldier. Positive hitting not possible, but necessary under the circumstances in order to show enemy that he is not safe even at that distance! Or superior wanted to satisfy himself about capability. B. 400 to 700 meters. C. About 600 meters, rarely more. I usually waited until target approached further for better chance of hitting. Also confirmation of successful hit was easier. Used G43 only to about 500 meters because of poor ballistics. A. Matthäus Hetzenauer of Tyrol fought at the Eastern Front from 1943 to the end of the war, and with 345 certified hits is the most successful German sniper. B. Sepp Allerberg of Salzburg fought at the Eastern Front from December 1942, to the end of the war, and with 257 certified hits is the second-best German sniper. C. Helmut Wirnsberger of Styria fought at the Eastern Front from September 1942, to the end of the war and scored 64 certified hits. __________________ Let's light this fuse and see what happens!

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