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Old 06-27-2008, 11:32 PM   #21
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Unfortunately I do not know what year it is, or even where to look to find out. I'd love to know though.

I'll let you know how it shoots this weekend if I can shoot it.
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Old 06-27-2008, 11:41 PM   #22
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Unfortunately I do not know what year it is, or even where to look to find out. I'd love to know though.

I'll let you know how it shoots this weekend if I can shoot it.
The year will be right there on the barrel, along with the armory stamp and the 1891/59 stamp that was added when they converted it, unless it's one of the 'sanitized' ones that they ground the info off for some reason.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you, while I wait to hear how it shoots.
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:07 AM   #23
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Toolman said:

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Keep in mind that rebarrelling a Mosin isn't as easy as your average Mauser, Arisaka, etc. The barrels are usually extremely tight and\or rusted into the receiver and no one makes speific tools to do it. A lot of M\N receivers have been ruined by someone trying to wrench it off the barrel and twisted it. I'm not trying to dissuade you, just saying..."

Toolman is right.

Besides new barrel, typical MN would likely need lots of other things to qualify as good shooter, so just changing the barrel may not be enough.
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:15 AM   #24
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Yea y'all are right. I'll keep you informed Troy.
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Old 06-28-2008, 02:28 AM   #25
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I have seen a lot of Surplus guns that the bore looked bad...The rifling is packed with crud and grease...But they cleanup pretty nice and after some shooting and proper cleaning they look Good !
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Old 06-28-2008, 08:50 AM   #26
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I've had two barrels pulled recently, one week apart. The 'smith charged me $20 each. I asked him how difficult it was and he said not too bad.
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Old 06-28-2008, 09:05 AM   #27
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Well I say if the barrel is not packed with rusty chunks when you try to force a cleaning rod through it then the barrel should be fine. I have several Mosins and even though the barrels appear worn out they shot just fine. I only ran into one rifle- and that was a No5 Jungle Carbine, that really needed a new barrel and that was in reference to the first line in this post.

Besides if it is a Hex 91/59 you don't want to mess with changing out the barrel just for collecters value.
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Old 06-28-2008, 11:47 AM   #28
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Gonna wait on the range report.

Moose talked me into cleaning up a M91 I bought for parts. It's a pretty good shooter !! I had to start with a 22LR brush !!

kortik- What's a typical Mosin ??
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Old 06-28-2008, 12:56 PM   #29
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Ok, to start it all off.

My "new" M44's best effort (And mine without coffee haha) put up a 2.09" grouping at 75 yards. No matter what I tried though, it was always about 9" off center. Then I put out the bayonet and smacked myself for not remembering it haha. Anyways, Katerina was performing nicely today and I think I just need more practice to firm up my groupings.

The M91/59. Well...

I personally couldn't do better than 3" today :-/. It didn't seem too dangerous (at least not as bad as I thought it was) and I ran a bore light in and it doesn't look as bad as I thought it did. It's not perfect though.

I'd say it'd be an "alright" shooter, not great. I had trouble believing that my M44 would be better, but part of that may be that I spent hours cleaning her and giving her TLC.

I'm sort of see-sawing on it. What do y'all think? Buy as a semi-collectible and sometimes shooter and not worry about it? Buy and swap the Barrel and keep the original for whatever reason?
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:23 PM   #30
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Here are just my thoughts:

1) If you are looking forward to working on your rifle just for the sake of doing something with it then go for it. Personally I like working on my guns and swapping the barrel would be an interesting, and challenging project (at least for me as I have never done it so far).

2) You could decide to simply enjoy your M44 as is and add it to your collection. Shoot it once in a while, lovingly clean it afterwards, and just "live" with it's "flaws" (after all, it's a Carbine not a 91/30).

3) Add it to your collection and keep looking for a nice shooter. (Aah, another rifle )

4) Trade it for another (potentially) "better" shooting one.

If I had to make a decision I would go with no. 3

Just my two cents since you asked.
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Old 06-28-2008, 01:26 PM   #31
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Question about 2...

I wasn't talking about doing anything to the M44, just to the 91/59... Am I just misreading your post in assuming you are talking about my M44?

Anyways, that all sounds pretty good to me haha, especially about adding it to my collection and looking for a better shooter (or maybe just an M38).
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Question about 2...

I wasn't talking about doing anything to the M44, just to the 91/59... Am I just misreading your post in assuming you are talking about my M44?

Anyways, that all sounds pretty good to me haha, especially about adding it to my collection and looking for a better shooter (or maybe just an M38).
When it comes to guns, I pretty much follow a philosophy I first saw put into words on one of my wife's coffee mugs: "anything I've ever let go of had claw marks all over it."

Money comes and goes, but guns and tools are forever. I'd buy it just because it's a hex 91/59 and you may not see another one available. Then again, I'm running out of storage space, so what do I know?
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Question about 2...

I wasn't talking about doing anything to the M44, just to the 91/59... Am I just misreading your post in assuming you are talking about my M44?

Anyways, that all sounds pretty good to me haha, especially about adding it to my collection and looking for a better shooter (or maybe just an M38).
Yes, FS00008, I was thinking of your M44. Sorry I got carried away typing.
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Old 06-28-2008, 03:07 PM   #34
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Oh no ingous, it's all good. I'm pretty happy with the M44. It's got a nice enough bore and it's not ever going to be a tack driver (And I doubt I could shoot that well anyways) so I'm happy with it. I'm pretty unhappy with the 91/59 though. IT does shoot and not "horribly", but it's not exactly as great as I'd wish. I think I'm going to buy it on general principle though because as Troy says, it is a Hex 91/59 and also because I have trouble passing up guns in general :-).


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Sounds like a good plan to me! Like you said, who could pass an opportunity to add another rifle to the collection.
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Sounds like a good plan to me! Like you said, who could pass an opportunity to add another rifle to the collection.
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Old 06-28-2008, 04:01 PM   #37
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Exactly Gandog haha.

Thankfully he's letting me pay for it next Friday on Payday! :-)
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Old 06-28-2008, 04:37 PM   #38
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Sounds good to me !! Congrats.
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