Scope Mount Question

Aviator · 07-08-2008, 09:47 PM

I have a M91/30 that I got from SAMCO which is drilled and tapped for a scope mount. I want to mount a PE copy or similar scope on to it. It looks to me when I go to the Accumount web site that the PU mount is made to fit the hole position and pattern of the rife that I have and if you were going to mount a PE scope on an M91/30 you would use a mount that sets in front of the bolt on top of the receiver??? At least that is what it looks like to me from the pictures on that website. I sent email to John at Accumount and all he told me to do was to measure the hole spacing to see if one of the three versions that he has fits my hole pattern. Yet when I look at the PE mount it mounts in a different place I think.

I do not want to drill any more holes into this rifle. Can I use the PU mount to hold a PE style scope? Hope I am making some sense here.

Thanks, Aviator

R5CYA · 07-08-2008, 10:04 PM

if you have an pu ex-sniper, use a pu mount. if you want a pe sniper, either get a pe ex-sniper or a run of the mill 91/30 and scope it.
either mount can be purchased with 1" mounts, so if you want a more modern scope you have a choice.

R5CYA · 07-08-2008, 10:21 PM

here's something to look at.
YouTube - 91/30 nagant clean up and PU scope mounting

Geo M44 · 07-08-2008, 11:19 PM

Not a great cleaning method IMHO. DPD is much more thorough without abrasion.

Scope mounting part was ok.

SwedeSteve · 07-09-2008, 12:25 AM

Aviator- How about some pics of your rifle snd the holes in it ??

R5CYA · 07-09-2008, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geo M44

Not a great cleaning method IMHO. DPD is much more thorough without abrasion.

Scope mounting part was ok.

i gotta admit, i linked, then watched. not half as good as i'd hoped.

marion57 · 07-09-2008, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aviator

I have a M91/30 that I got from SAMCO which is drilled and tapped for a scope mount. I want to mount a PE copy or similar scope on to it. It looks to me when I go to the Accumount web site that the PU mount is made to fit the hole position and pattern of the rife that I have and if you were going to mount a PE scope on an M91/30 you would use a mount that sets in front of the bolt on top of the receiver??? At least that is what it looks like to me from the pictures on that website. I sent email to John at Accumount and all he told me to do was to measure the hole spacing to see if one of the three versions that he has fits my hole pattern. Yet when I look at the PE mount it mounts in a different place I think.

I do not want to drill any more holes into this rifle. Can I use the PU mount to hold a PE style scope? Hope I am making some sense here.

Thanks, Aviator

have you checked it against this sites?
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinFea...htm#Ex-snipers

SwedeSteve · 07-09-2008, 02:49 AM

+1. Thanks marion !!

Mike82 · 07-09-2008, 08:45 AM

since ur seeing my name on this post....then u can pretty much tell what i'm gonna tell you....errr ask you*....if u like EER/LER scopes, then look into grabbing a cheap 91/30 and doing a scout-scope project....i think my posts were archived, gotta lookup the links, but i got step-by-step on how to do it including part numbers; i know i'm getting off subject, but another possibility(dont really know, just check scope diameters) would be to get an adjustable scope and mount it in a pu mount....if it'll fit and the eyepiece doesnt get in the way of the bolt/stripper clips, then i say go for it, and ignore what these hardcore 'originalists' say.....now watch me get into trouble for suggesting something that may not work....remove rear sight base on a standard m91/30 and mount some 3/8th" scope rings, verti-split i prefer, because they let scope sit lower to receiver....also, when base is removed, it leaves a thick coating of silver on barrel....dunno how well that'll re-blue, but i left it like it was, the solder keeps rust away...yay

hmmm, lemme find links......

Ps. steve, and marion will definitely have something to say about my 2cents

Aviator · 07-09-2008, 05:02 PM

OK Mike and all thanks for the input.

I have several M91/30s but I would like to put a scope on this particular rifle since it has the cut out and the holes. So, what I am hearing here is to get the PU mount and find a scope that will fit it or buy that over priced PE scope copy and it will fit in the PU mount??

Mike, I will check out the archives and study some more.

Thanks guys,

Aviator

Enfield trader · 07-09-2008, 11:03 PM

A PE mount holes will not work with a PU hole setup. If it is drilled and tapped for a PU then you need a PU setup. A PE scope will not fit into a PU mount. Only a PU or SVT scope will fit into a PU mount.

Does your rifle have a matching bolt?

marion57 · 07-09-2008, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike82

since ur seeing my name on this post....then u can pretty much tell what i'm gonna tell you....errr ask you*....if u like EER/LER scopes, then look into grabbing a cheap 91/30 and doing a scout-scope project....i think my posts were archived, gotta lookup the links, but i got step-by-step on how to do it including part numbers; i know i'm getting off subject, but another possibility(dont really know, just check scope diameters) would be to get an adjustable scope and mount it in a pu mount....if it'll fit and the eyepiece doesnt get in the way of the bolt/stripper clips, then i say go for it, and ignore what these hardcore 'originalists' say.....now watch me get into trouble for suggesting something that may not work....remove rear sight base on a standard m91/30 and mount some 3/8th" scope rings, verti-split i prefer, because they let scope sit lower to receiver....also, when base is removed, it leaves a thick coating of silver on barrel....dunno how well that'll re-blue, but i left it like it was, the solder keeps rust away...yay

hmmm, lemme find links......

Ps. steve, and marion will definitely have something to say about my 2cents

Nope I think its great that different people try different things is how I learn and I dont care what you say mike I am not to old to learn

R5CYA · 07-09-2008, 11:31 PM

hey aviator, do you care if it's not a "copy" of an original pu sniper? if not, i'd take a hard look at the pu mount with 1" rings.

Aviator · 07-10-2008, 05:55 PM

OK, well I do not want to make a copy of a PU sniper. I have one that I paid $$ from Classic Arms. It is real nice. Problem was I purchased some time back the sniper 91/30 minus scope from SAMCO. It of course is drilled for the PU mount. Guess I should have made better sense with my intentions. I didn't send the rifle back even though I could have (they have some return policy) cause I figured I would put another scope on it with the intention of at least making it kinda look like a PE style rife. The entire PE setup costs more than the PU or at least that is what it looks like from what I've seen on the internet.

So if I get a PU side rail mount will any scopes fit into the rings or is there any other options where I can use the existing holes? Past that I would just put the rifle in the closet and keep it for someone that would want to make a PU rifle.

I go to work every day and walk past a couple megabuck new CNC machines and wonder what could be done with one of those beasts if I only new the boss in the area well enough.....

Any more advise would sure be appreciated.

Thanks,

Aviator

R5CYA · 07-11-2008, 04:09 AM

i'd go with this one, myself. cheap and you have the option of replacing the scope with any 1" scope you like. i'd ask if they sell the mount and base without the scope first though.
1" Soviet Russian Mosin 91/30 PU sniper mount and scope - eBay (item 270254649290 end time Aug-09-08 20

12 PDT)
p.s. i'd also measure the center to center of my mounting holes and make sure the mount is the right one as well.

07-08-2008, 09:47 PM	#1
Aviator Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 19	Scope Mount Question I have a M91/30 that I got from SAMCO which is drilled and tapped for a scope mount. I want to mount a PE copy or similar scope on to it. It looks to me when I go to the Accumount web site that the PU mount is made to fit the hole position and pattern of the rife that I have and if you were going to mount a PE scope on an M91/30 you would use a mount that sets in front of the bolt on top of the receiver??? At least that is what it looks like to me from the pictures on that website. I sent email to John at Accumount and all he told me to do was to measure the hole spacing to see if one of the three versions that he has fits my hole pattern. Yet when I look at the PE mount it mounts in a different place I think. I do not want to drill any more holes into this rifle. Can I use the PU mount to hold a PE style scope? Hope I am making some sense here. Thanks, Aviator

07-08-2008, 10:04 PM	#2
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 632	if you have an pu ex-sniper, use a pu mount. if you want a pe sniper, either get a pe ex-sniper or a run of the mill 91/30 and scope it. either mount can be purchased with 1" mounts, so if you want a more modern scope you have a choice. __________________ *TROLL HUNTER!*

07-08-2008, 10:21 PM	#3
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 632	here's something to look at. YouTube - 91/30 nagant clean up and PU scope mounting __________________ *TROLL HUNTER!*

07-08-2008, 11:19 PM	#4
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,172	Not a great cleaning method IMHO. DPD is much more thorough without abrasion. Scope mounting part was ok. __________________ Remember when seconds count... the police are only minutes away.

07-09-2008, 12:25 AM	#5
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,300 Images: 1	Aviator- How about some pics of your rifle snd the holes in it ?? __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

07-09-2008, 02:49 AM	#8
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07-09-2008, 08:45 AM	#9
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Vicksburg, Mississippi USA Posts: 1,019 Images: 7	since ur seeing my name on this post....then u can pretty much tell what i'm gonna tell you....errr ask you....if u like EER/LER scopes, then look into grabbing a cheap 91/30 and doing a scout-scope project....i think my posts were archived, gotta lookup the links, but i got step-by-step on how to do it including part numbers; i know i'm getting off subject, but another possibility(dont really know, just check scope diameters) would be to get an adjustable scope and mount it in a pu mount....if it'll fit and the eyepiece doesnt get in the way of the bolt/stripper clips, then i say go for it, and ignore what these hardcore 'originalists' say.....now watch me get into trouble for suggesting something that may not work....remove rear sight base on a standard m91/30 and mount some 3/8th" scope rings, verti-split i prefer, because they let scope sit lower to receiver....also, when base is removed, it leaves a thick coating of silver on barrel....dunno how well that'll re-blue, but i left it like it was, the solder keeps rust away...yay hmmm, lemme find links...... Ps. steve, and marion will definitely have something to say about my 2cents __________________ No Trespassing!* Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!

07-09-2008, 05:02 PM	#10
Aviator Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 19	OK Mike and all thanks for the input. I have several M91/30s but I would like to put a scope on this particular rifle since it has the cut out and the holes. So, what I am hearing here is to get the PU mount and find a scope that will fit it or buy that over priced PE scope copy and it will fit in the PU mount?? Mike, I will check out the archives and study some more. Thanks guys, Aviator

07-09-2008, 11:03 PM	#11
Enfield trader Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 193	He are some answers A PE mount holes will not work with a PU hole setup. If it is drilled and tapped for a PU then you need a PU setup. A PE scope will not fit into a PU mount. Only a PU or SVT scope will fit into a PU mount. Does your rifle have a matching bolt?

07-09-2008, 11:31 PM	#13
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 632	hey aviator, do you care if it's not a "copy" of an original pu sniper? if not, i'd take a hard look at the pu mount with 1" rings. __________________ *TROLL HUNTER!*

07-10-2008, 05:55 PM	#14
Aviator Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 19	OK, well I do not want to make a copy of a PU sniper. I have one that I paid $$ from Classic Arms. It is real nice. Problem was I purchased some time back the sniper 91/30 minus scope from SAMCO. It of course is drilled for the PU mount. Guess I should have made better sense with my intentions. I didn't send the rifle back even though I could have (they have some return policy) cause I figured I would put another scope on it with the intention of at least making it kinda look like a PE style rife. The entire PE setup costs more than the PU or at least that is what it looks like from what I've seen on the internet. So if I get a PU side rail mount will any scopes fit into the rings or is there any other options where I can use the existing holes? Past that I would just put the rifle in the closet and keep it for someone that would want to make a PU rifle. I go to work every day and walk past a couple megabuck new CNC machines and wonder what could be done with one of those beasts if I only new the boss in the area well enough..... Any more advise would sure be appreciated. Thanks, Aviator

07-11-2008, 04:09 AM	#15
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 632	i'd go with this one, myself. cheap and you have the option of replacing the scope with any 1" scope you like. i'd ask if they sell the mount and base without the scope first though. 1" Soviet Russian Mosin 91/30 PU sniper mount and scope - eBay (item 270254649290 end time Aug-09-08 2012 PDT) p.s. i'd also measure the center to center of my mounting holes and make sure the mount is the right one as well. __________________ *TROLL HUNTER!* Last edited by R5CYA; 07-11-2008 at 04:11 AM. Reason: aliens told me to.