Tips on my next Mosin

racdrof · 07-13-2008, 05:53 PM

Got a gun show to go to on Aug. 2nd. Wanting to pick up another Mosin to go with my other 4. Need some tips on what I need to look for in finding one that's a little harder to find.

Help me out here guy's, what do I need to keep my eye's open for? Wanting to find one, I guess you would say on the rare side. Price, year, markings, whatever. Would kind of like to stay in the M44 style. But as long as it is hard to find, that's what I'll look for.

marinevet1010 · 07-13-2008, 06:16 PM

Here are some rare examples of M44s:

If it was made in 1943, it's rare.
If it was made by Tula, it's rare.
If it has a octagon-shaped reciever, it's extremely rare, Geo M44 has the only one I have ever seen.

LefthandShooter · 07-13-2008, 06:55 PM

BUY THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

R5CYA · 07-13-2008, 06:56 PM

don't forget, hungarian, polish, chinese and ddr markd m44's.

David · 07-13-2008, 07:28 PM

Could you fit a 91/30's bayo on an m38?

squirrelbaster · 07-13-2008, 07:28 PM

buy a m38, its a bit more rare than the 91/30 and the m44. it is also much like a m44 just without the bayonet.

squirrelbaster · 07-13-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Could you fit a 91/30's bayo on an m38?

i reallly dont think so......

marinevet1010 · 07-13-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by squirrelbaster

i reallly dont think so......

Only one way to find out...

SwedeSteve · 07-14-2008, 02:41 PM

Won't fit.

Rare M44's: Finnish SA marked, MO marked, DDR Triangle 1 marked, 1943 Izhevsk.

Cyrano · 07-14-2008, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Could you fit a 91/30's bayo on an m38?

No, you can't David. The M38 was designed as a rifle/carbine (I think it's barrel is long enough to be a rifle; others disagree) to be issued to troops unlikely to need a rifle for fighting, like artillerymen, truck drivers, engineers and other support troops. Since they weren't going to be in the lines, the Soviet leadership figured they didn't need the ability to attach a bayonet to their shootin' iron. They were designed so you couldn't attach a bayonet, even if you wanted to. This saved the Soviets some money because they didn't need to make and issue more 91/30 style bayonets, too.

The Nazi invasion in 1941 showed this to be a bad decision. Plenty of support troops got bayonetted because they ran out of ammo and got caught in close combat with the Germans. This is what prompted the redesign of the M38 into the M44, which had its bayonet permanently attached so it would be handy if you ever needed it. The thought continued forward with the SKS, most of which have permanently attached bayonets that fold out of the way when not needed.

For shooting, I feel the M38 shoots better than the M44. But for close defense, I'd want either a 91/30 or an M44 - because they have bayonets and the M38 does not.

Geo M44 · 07-14-2008, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by R5CYA

don't forget, hungarian, polish, chinese and ddr markd m44's.

... and Romanian.

Geo M44 · 07-14-2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marinevet1010

Here are some rare examples of M44s:

If it was made in 1943, it's rare.
If it was made by Tula, it's rare.
If it has a octagon-shaped reciever, it's extremely rare, Geo M44 has the only one I have ever seen.

A minor correction: It's a hex receiver like the older 91/30's.

gandog56 · 07-14-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Could you fit a 91/30's bayo on an m38?

Different front sight, won't fit.

07-13-2008, 05:53 PM	#1
racdrof Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 190	Tips on my next Mosin Got a gun show to go to on Aug. 2nd. Wanting to pick up another Mosin to go with my other 4. Need some tips on what I need to look for in finding one that's a little harder to find. Help me out here guy's, what do I need to keep my eye's open for? Wanting to find one, I guess you would say on the rare side. Price, year, markings, whatever. Would kind of like to stay in the M44 style. But as long as it is hard to find, that's what I'll look for.

07-13-2008, 06:55 PM	#3
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07-13-2008, 07:28 PM	#6
squirrelbaster Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,237	buy a m38, its a bit more rare than the 91/30 and the m44. it is also much like a m44 just without the bayonet. __________________ "My Shotgun SAYS I AM the POLICE !"--Mooseman684 "I like Turtles!" youtube kid

07-14-2008, 02:41 PM	#9
SwedeSteve Bullet Maintenance !! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The anchor point, Alaska Posts: 10,300 Images: 1	Won't fit. Rare M44's: Finnish SA marked, MO marked, DDR Triangle 1 marked, 1943 Izhevsk. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers Last edited by SwedeSteve; 07-14-2008 at 02:44 PM.

07-13-2008, 06:16 PM	#2
marinevet1010 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Goodrich, Michigan Posts: 314	Here are some rare examples of M44s: If it was made in 1943, it's rare. If it was made by Tula, it's rare. If it has a octagon-shaped reciever, it's extremely rare, Geo M44 has the only one I have ever seen.

07-13-2008, 07:28 PM	#5
David Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: central texas Posts: 51	Could you fit a 91/30's bayo on an m38?