Possible bad thing?

[jmeck]

One of the nice features on a Mosin is you can recock it and try to fire the round again with out removing the round

[Niko911]

Ive shot 200 rounds out of my mosin..used wolf ammo. And yea like jmeck said you can pull back the end of the bolt to recock it and fire again.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

The M60 MG will cook off if you are firing too long of bursts (more than 6-9). Immediate action is to pull the belt hard to force a jam, or break the rest of the belt off and let it expend its rounds.

The old Browning M1919 would do it too, Swede. Dwight Eisenhower recounted a story in his book At Ease in which he and George Patton were firing the Browning as part of a sustained-firing test in the 1920s. They took turns running belts of ammo through it and oberving the strikes on the target with binoculars. Patton was on the gun when the strikes didn't seem right on the target. It looked to Ike as if the rounds were keyholing, so they ceased firing - or so they thought.

Without removing the ammo belt from the machine gun first, they went walking downrange to look at the target up close. While they were looking at it, the machine gun opened up on them! It was so hot from sustained firing it cooked off the round in the chamber and set the gun to shooting all on its own. They split off diagonally away from the Browning gone wild, and when he got back to the gun Patton twisted the belt so the Browning wouldn't shoot any more. Eisenhower observed, "We'd acted like a couple of dumb recruits."

[wunhunglo]

Originally Posted by Cyrano

The old Browning M1919 would do it too, Swede. Dwight Eisenhower recounted a story in his book At Ease in which he and George Patton were firing the Browning as part of a sustained-firing test in the 1920s. They took turns running belts of ammo through it and oberving the strikes on the target with binoculars. Patton was on the gun when the strikes didn't seem right on the target. It looked to Ike as if the rounds were keyholing, so they ceased firing - or so they thought.

Without removing the ammo belt from the machine gun first, they went walking downrange to look at the target up close. While they were looking at it, the machine gun opened up on them! It was so hot from sustained firing it cooked off the round in the chamber and set the gun to shooting all on its own. They split off diagonally away from the Browning gone wild, and when he got back to the gun Patton twisted the belt so the Browning wouldn't shoot any more. Eisenhower observed, "We'd acted like a couple of dumb recruits."

The Browning design fired from a "closed Bolt" which is prone to cook-offs after getting hot by sustained fire; this is why most modern machine gun designs like the fM60 fire from an open bolt, it allows the barrel to cool between bursts so you can't get a cook-off.

[tullyx]

Similar thing happened to me last time I went shooting wioth my mosin. I had put nearly 20 rounds through flawlessly and then all of a sudden, I pulled the trigger and got nothing but a click. Then after about 2 seconds if even that, the gun fired the round. Then it shot flawlessly all day after that.

[SwedeSteve]

Believe me Wun, even as an open bolt, the M60 was bad for cook offs. Try having one with a M60D mounted on a UH-1H !!

[gandog56]

Originally Posted by tullyx

Similar thing happened to me last time I went shooting wioth my mosin. I had put nearly 20 rounds through flawlessly and then all of a sudden, I pulled the trigger and got nothing but a click. Then after about 2 seconds if even that, the gun fired the round. Then it shot flawlessly all day after that.

Once again, sounds like a hangfire, not a cook off.

[wunhunglo]

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

Believe me Wun, even as an open bolt, the M60 was bad for cook offs. Try having one with a M60D mounted on a UH-1H !!

You're confusing me. How can you get a cook-off without a round in the chamber. When you release the trigger the bolt is held to the rear and the chamber is empty and allowed to cool off. If a round was to cook-off if would have to happen in the feed tray and that would cause a feed tray stoppage or jam. The only way you should be able to get a cook-off in an open bolt weapon is after a failure to fire which has left a live round in the chamber and even then it should only be one.

[TheWanderingMind]

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

And then there's the equally hazardous cook-off !!

Steve, the only way to get a cook off with a Mosin is to let her hold it in the sack!

Oh, crap! Did I say that?

[SwedeSteve]

I always let her hold my Mosin, LOL !!

[toolman]

I love hangfires, they're great for learning proper follow-through and safety.

[texnmidwest]

Originally Posted by SwedeSteve

I always let her hold my Mosin, LOL !!

LMAO!!!

[Geo M44]

Is there cosmolene involved? Woo hoo... gun porn.

[lunchbox99]

thanks for the info on hangfires never heard of them. that info may save someones life keep her pointed down range or safe direction down not up like the slam fire guy

[gandog56]

Originally Posted by Geo M44

Is there cosmolene involved? Woo hoo... gun porn.

Makes a fine lubricant.

[SwedeSteve]

Yep, but she simply refuses to allow me to put the bayonet on !!

Wun- I understand the mechanics. It has been almost 14 years since I handled a M60MG, so I have to say, as best as I remember, cook-offs happened through the weapon being too hot which cause the malfunction of the weapon. This normally occured in conjunction with a weapon with a worn sear. I do not remember much more than that. I would have to dig up my TM's and see what they say.

[Mike82]

HANGFIRE IN THE HOLE!!!!

never had one....of course i have my firing pin set to dig deep into the center of the primer....maybe the spot ur pin hits has something to do with it....i've had misfires with rimfires cuz hammer hit too far to edge, mostly with semi-auto, altho my lever does it about evry 10-15 rounds. those are using american-made winchester brand ammo....dont let name fool ya, not all winchester is american made