Wont eject round! HELP`

adamhgkb · 10-05-2008, 09:25 PM

I finally went out today to shoot a 91/30 I purchased on gunbroker.com a month or so ago.........i know no excuse for that kind of delay. But my issue is it fires great and is accurate but the round wont eject! I am guessing there is something wrong with my bolt..........very novice at these kind of issues. Can I do anything about it?

billy · 10-05-2008, 09:29 PM

time to clean the chamber!
http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/mos...-firearms.html (First Time Cleaning of Miltiary Surplus Firearms)

toolman · 10-05-2008, 09:29 PM

Are you having trouble getting the bolt to rotate, or does it rotate and not pull back to eject the round?

billy · 10-05-2008, 09:31 PM

get a shotgun brush.
chuck it in a drill
put some solvent on it and scrub that chamber!

Mooseman684 · 10-05-2008, 09:50 PM

Are you having trouble with the Bolt EXTRACTING the spent case or "Ejecting" the spent Case after extraction ??? Lets be clear here...
Rich

Ferroflame · 10-05-2008, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mooseman684

Are you having trouble with the Bolt EXTRACTING the spent case or "Ejecting" the spent Case after extraction ??? Lets be clear here...
Rich

Yeah that's the real question. Is the extractor not grabbing the round or when you fire and pull the bolt back the shell won't come out?

adamhgkb · 10-05-2008, 10:00 PM

Correct the bolt extractor is not grabbing the spent cartridge. it is staying in the bore

adamhgkb · 10-05-2008, 10:01 PM

yes the bolt is rotating fine,,,,,,,,,

toolman · 10-05-2008, 10:05 PM

You'll either need to drive the case out of the chamber with a brass rod\wood dowel\etc. or use air pressure to blow it out. Before you do that, though, pull the bolt and see if the extractor hook is still there, ie: not broken off.

adamhgkb · 10-05-2008, 10:08 PM

ok like a retard i just now compared it to my m44 bolt.........yep extractor hook is broken off!

adamhgkb · 10-05-2008, 10:09 PM

what can i do since my extractor hook is off?

cremley · 10-05-2008, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by adamhgkb

what can i do since my extractor hook is off?

buy another mosin

or you could find the parts online. I would personally get a custom bent bolt and just replace the whole thing.

toolman · 10-05-2008, 10:32 PM

Springfield Sporters ask for Russ, or www.tngunparts.com ask for Layne.

adamhgkb · 10-05-2008, 10:32 PM

if i replace the whole bolt isnt there adjustments you have to make in order to make is safe to shoot? wow do i sound ignorant? is it easy to just replace the extractor hook? and yes I will be buying MANY more mosins

WW2Junkie · 10-05-2008, 10:39 PM

If you use the same bolt and replace the extractor you will be fine. If you use another bolt though you should check the headspace. You may still be OK but it should be checked.

Also, as long as you have a M44 there, take that bolt and use it in the 91/30 to extract the round.

adamhgkb · 10-05-2008, 10:41 PM

is it fairly simple to replace just the extractor?

WW2Junkie · 10-05-2008, 11:03 PM

I don't know if you would think it's simple or not but yea, I do. Here's a link with pictures and all.
Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2006) - Surplusrifle.com

marion57 · 10-05-2008, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by WW2Junkie

I don't know if you would think it's simple or not but yea, I do. Here's a link with pictures and all.
Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2006) - Surplusrifle.com

A other site for break down and replacement
Mosin Nagant Rifle Exploded Views and Disassembly

marion57 · 10-05-2008, 11:24 PM

Adam its pretty easy to replace the extractor .. just buy a new extractor and replace it and then your good to go no need for new bolt!!

kerriganm49 · 10-06-2008, 09:39 AM

Saw three up for Bid last night on Gun Broker.com Type in Mosin Nagant and everything Mosin will come up 10 pages total, Listed as extractors for Mosin Nagant started at $11.95 each. I bought one about three weeks ago from same person through Gun Broker.com . Also if you can not get one of those, check on buymilsurplus .com Mark has them and whole bolt heads with extractors intact. Make sure to check your head space, as this may have been your problem from the start, the case may have swelled up and forcing the bolt back snapped off your extractor. Good luck, let us know how you make out.

10-05-2008, 09:25 PM	#1
adamhgkb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: akron,ohio Posts: 637	Wont eject round! HELP` I finally went out today to shoot a 91/30 I purchased on gunbroker.com a month or so ago.........i know no excuse for that kind of delay. But my issue is it fires great and is accurate but the round wont eject! I am guessing there is something wrong with my bolt..........very novice at these kind of issues. Can I do anything about it?

10-05-2008, 09:29 PM	#2
billy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 20,491 Blog Entries: 161	time to clean the chamber! http://www.gunandgame.com/forums/mos...-firearms.html (First Time Cleaning of Miltiary Surplus Firearms) __________________ ANGRY SMART AND SOBER

10-05-2008, 09:29 PM	#3
toolman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 7,371 Blog Entries: 25	Are you having trouble getting the bolt to rotate, or does it rotate and not pull back to eject the round? __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

10-05-2008, 09:31 PM	#4
billy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: a secret lab on the shores of lake titicaca Posts: 20,491 Blog Entries: 161	get a shotgun brush. chuck it in a drill put some solvent on it and scrub that chamber! __________________ ANGRY SMART AND SOBER

10-05-2008, 09:50 PM	#5
Mooseman684 Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Alaska Wilderness. Unit 13 Posts: 12,781	Are you having trouble with the Bolt EXTRACTING the spent case or "Ejecting" the spent Case after extraction ??? Lets be clear here... Rich __________________ You know you might be facing your doom,when all you get is a click when you're expecting a BOOM!

10-05-2008, 10:00 PM	#7
adamhgkb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: akron,ohio Posts: 637	Correct the bolt extractor is not grabbing the spent cartridge. it is staying in the bore

10-05-2008, 10:01 PM	#8
adamhgkb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: akron,ohio Posts: 637	yes the bolt is rotating fine,,,,,,,,,

10-05-2008, 10:05 PM	#9
toolman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 7,371 Blog Entries: 25	You'll either need to drive the case out of the chamber with a brass rod\wood dowel\etc. or use air pressure to blow it out. Before you do that, though, pull the bolt and see if the extractor hook is still there, ie: not broken off. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

10-05-2008, 10:08 PM	#10
adamhgkb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: akron,ohio Posts: 637	ok like a retard i just now compared it to my m44 bolt.........yep extractor hook is broken off!

10-05-2008, 10:09 PM	#11
adamhgkb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: akron,ohio Posts: 637	what can i do since my extractor hook is off?

10-05-2008, 10:32 PM	#13
toolman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 7,371 Blog Entries: 25	Springfield Sporters ask for Russ, or www.tngunparts.com ask for Layne. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

10-05-2008, 10:39 PM	#15
WW2Junkie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Middle of Wisconsin Posts: 189	If you use the same bolt and replace the extractor you will be fine. If you use another bolt though you should check the headspace. You may still be OK but it should be checked. Also, as long as you have a M44 there, take that bolt and use it in the 91/30 to extract the round.

10-05-2008, 10:41 PM	#16
adamhgkb Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: akron,ohio Posts: 637	is it fairly simple to replace just the extractor?

10-05-2008, 11:03 PM	#17
WW2Junkie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Middle of Wisconsin Posts: 189	I don't know if you would think it's simple or not but yea, I do. Here's a link with pictures and all. Collecting and Shooting the Military Surplus Rifle (2006) - Surplusrifle.com

10-05-2008, 11:24 PM	#19
marion57 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Missouri Posts: 3,640	Adam its pretty easy to replace the extractor .. just buy a new extractor and replace it and then your good to go no need for new bolt!! __________________ You can have my gun when you pry it from my cold dead fingers Please Mr Custer I dont wanna go

10-06-2008, 09:39 AM	#20
kerriganm49 Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ward, AR Posts: 135	Saw three up for Bid last night on Gun Broker.com Type in Mosin Nagant and everything Mosin will come up 10 pages total, Listed as extractors for Mosin Nagant started at $11.95 each. I bought one about three weeks ago from same person through Gun Broker.com . Also if you can not get one of those, check on buymilsurplus .com Mark has them and whole bolt heads with extractors intact. Make sure to check your head space, as this may have been your problem from the start, the case may have swelled up and forcing the bolt back snapped off your extractor. Good luck, let us know how you make out.