Hex or Round?

AWP79 · 10-06-2008, 12:43 PM

Well I am having fun with my Mosin-Nagant M44 and now I really want a 91/30. While shopping online I have been seeing the hex receivers and the round receivers. I want the one that would be in the better condition.

My question is which one would probably be in the better condition? Is it worth the money to get the hand picked?

Thanks for the feedback.

R5CYA · 10-06-2008, 12:49 PM

seeing as the round ones are wartime production, i think you'll find most hex better looking in the finish dept.
not sure on the hand-picked. it's not like they slug the bore or anything to guarantee the rifle can still shoot straight.

millwright39 · 10-06-2008, 01:06 PM

I myself perfer the Hex- some dates are older with more interesting rec makers. The round rec started about 35-36 about thoses years.

This one is
Foremost
Ordnance
Factory
(of the) USSR
at Tula
1923-1928

Old rec-updated to the 91/30 I think

Just more info to make one want many more!!

On the hand pick in my past still a crap shoot. Maybe wait till the shows in your area and then hand pick and also bore inspect.

SwedeSteve · 10-06-2008, 01:49 PM

I like Tula Hex.

Cyrano · 10-06-2008, 02:16 PM

I think the interwar hexes are the highest quality Russian-made Mosins. In wartime, the pressure is on to get as many rifles out the door as quickly as possible. In peacetime, the workers aren't under as much pressure to get out as many as possible, so a little more care is taken. The conventional wisdom is that the Tula rifles are better made and a little more accurate. I feel that the amount of use the rifle got is a better indicator of how accurate any Mosin is likely to be.

If you are after a tack-driver, you need to get a Finnish Mosin. The Finns, especially the Sakos and the B barrels are thought to be the peak of Mosin accurace. Only thing is, they cost four times as much as Russian Mosins.

Only you can decide if the extra money you have to pay to get a Finnish Mosin is worth it to you.

Mosin Shooter · 10-06-2008, 03:44 PM

Yeah the Finnish Mosins are amongst the best available, but a good peacetime hex will still be very good, and hex is supposed to be stronger than the round receiver.

Ask Moose about his tack driver M39 sometime.

SwedeSteve · 10-07-2008, 10:09 AM

While you can't beat a nice M39, I would think general wisdom would place the M28/30 at the top of the heap as far as accuracy is concerned.

AWP79 · 10-07-2008, 10:20 AM

Thanks guys for the good info, I think I'm going to go with the hex receiver with the $10 hand pick. Now I just have to decide if I should buy from Aim or J&G

SwedeSteve · 10-07-2008, 10:30 AM

Decisions, decisions !!

millwright39 · 10-07-2008, 10:52 AM

Yes, always good to be in those shoes!!

Hope you get a nice one!!

Vintovka · 10-07-2008, 12:19 PM

hey millwright, where did you find that rifle? i really want an M91 but i'd gladly take a converted one like you have

R5CYA · 10-07-2008, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AWP79

Thanks guys for the good info, I think I'm going to go with the hex receiver with the $10 hand pick. Now I just have to decide if I should buy from Aim or J&G

never bought from aim. bought three 91/30's from j&g. no complaints. your results may vary.

gandog56 · 10-07-2008, 07:29 PM

I don't know that there are really any advantages of a hex over a round receiver. But, since they usually charge more for one, there ya go.

Bought from both AIM and J&G, have had no problems with either. But you can get a Hex receiver from J&G for 10 bucks less, so that's the way I would go.

Mike82 · 10-07-2008, 07:48 PM

mmhmm....hmmm, of the carbines, I would want an M91/59 for the accuracy, dunno if the czech's M91/38 is as accurate, but I want one of them just for kicks....and of course as many M91/30's I can get, so long as they are from 1930-1940....and round receivers are stated to have been released as 1936 models, altho there may be some '35 models somewheres. Hexes look cool, rounds look sleek....let's all do a 'Hex vs. Round' thread, kinda like the 'AR, AK, and Mosin' thread

gandog56 · 10-09-2008, 05:24 PM

And what would make a 91/59 more accurate than say a M38 or M44?

BOHICA1962 · 10-09-2008, 05:44 PM

[quote=Mike82;648184]mmhmm the czech's M91/38 is as accurate, but I want one of them just for kicks....,

They have all the kicks I'll ever need.

Geo M44 · 10-09-2008, 05:46 PM

I like Hex Tula's as well, but mine is an M44...

texnmidwest · 10-09-2008, 07:07 PM

After long deliberations I have come to conclusion that if I see a older military rifle from the Eastern block with a straight or in sometimes bent bolt handle that shoots the 7.62x54R cartridge chances are very good that I will like it!

Accuracy? Give me the longer guns any day. Shoulder those things and they are half the distance to the goal line!!!!

gandog56 · 10-09-2008, 09:26 PM

Not to mention being able to pole vault over creeks you may have to cross.

SwedeSteve · 10-10-2008, 01:15 PM

Then put that bayonet on there and watch out !!

10-06-2008, 12:43 PM	#1
AWP79 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rosehill, Texas Posts: 18	Hex or Round? Well I am having fun with my Mosin-Nagant M44 and now I really want a 91/30. While shopping online I have been seeing the hex receivers and the round receivers. I want the one that would be in the better condition. My question is which one would probably be in the better condition? Is it worth the money to get the hand picked? Thanks for the feedback.

10-06-2008, 12:49 PM	#2
R5CYA Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Bruno, Republic of Kalifornia Posts: 762	seeing as the round ones are wartime production, i think you'll find most hex better looking in the finish dept. not sure on the hand-picked. it's not like they slug the bore or anything to guarantee the rifle can still shoot straight. __________________ tighten it till it strips and back off a half turn.

10-06-2008, 01:06 PM	#3
millwright39 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 222 Images: 8	I myself perfer the Hex- some dates are older with more interesting rec makers. The round rec started about 35-36 about thoses years. This one is Foremost Ordnance Factory (of the) USSR at Tula 1923-1928 Old rec-updated to the 91/30 I think Just more info to make one want many more!! On the hand pick in my past still a crap shoot. Maybe wait till the shows in your area and then hand pick and also bore inspect. __________________ Pheasants Forever Iowa PF Last edited by millwright39; 10-06-2008 at 01:14 PM.

10-06-2008, 01:49 PM	#4
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 12,659 Images: 1	I like Tula Hex. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

10-06-2008, 03:44 PM	#6
Mosin Shooter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: I don't know where I am, but I know where you are. Posts: 451	Yeah the Finnish Mosins are amongst the best available, but a good peacetime hex will still be very good, and hex is supposed to be stronger than the round receiver. Ask Moose about his tack driver M39 sometime. __________________ Liberal-a person who has a mind so open, their brain has fallen out.

10-06-2008, 02:16 PM	#5
Cyrano Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New York Posts: 3,057	I think the interwar hexes are the highest quality Russian-made Mosins. In wartime, the pressure is on to get as many rifles out the door as quickly as possible. In peacetime, the workers aren't under as much pressure to get out as many as possible, so a little more care is taken. The conventional wisdom is that the Tula rifles are better made and a little more accurate. I feel that the amount of use the rifle got is a better indicator of how accurate any Mosin is likely to be. If you are after a tack-driver, you need to get a Finnish Mosin. The Finns, especially the Sakos and the B barrels are thought to be the peak of Mosin accurace. Only thing is, they cost four times as much as Russian Mosins. Only you can decide if the extra money you have to pay to get a Finnish Mosin is worth it to you.

10-07-2008, 10:09 AM	#7
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 12,659 Images: 1	While you can't beat a nice M39, I would think general wisdom would place the M28/30 at the top of the heap as far as accuracy is concerned. __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

10-07-2008, 10:20 AM	#8
AWP79 Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rosehill, Texas Posts: 18	Thanks guys for the good info, I think I'm going to go with the hex receiver with the $10 hand pick. Now I just have to decide if I should buy from Aim or J&G

10-07-2008, 10:30 AM	#9
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 12,659 Images: 1	Decisions, decisions !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers

10-07-2008, 10:52 AM	#10
millwright39 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 222 Images: 8	Yes, always good to be in those shoes!! Hope you get a nice one!! __________________ Pheasants Forever Iowa PF

10-07-2008, 12:19 PM	#11
Vintovka Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 148	hey millwright, where did you find that rifle? i really want an M91 but i'd gladly take a converted one like you have

10-07-2008, 07:29 PM	#13
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 5,717	I don't know that there are really any advantages of a hex over a round receiver. But, since they usually charge more for one, there ya go. Bought from both AIM and J&G, have had no problems with either. But you can get a Hex receiver from J&G for 10 bucks less, so that's the way I would go.

10-07-2008, 07:48 PM	#14
Mike82 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Starkville, Mississippi USA Go BullDAWGS!!! Posts: 1,862 Images: 7	mmhmm....hmmm, of the carbines, I would want an M91/59 for the accuracy, dunno if the czech's M91/38 is as accurate, but I want one of them just for kicks....and of course as many M91/30's I can get, so long as they are from 1930-1940....and round receivers are stated to have been released as 1936 models, altho there may be some '35 models somewheres. Hexes look cool, rounds look sleek....let's all do a 'Hex vs. Round' thread, kinda like the 'AR, AK, and Mosin' thread __________________ No Trespassing! Violators Will Be Shot! Survivors Will Be Shot Again!

10-09-2008, 05:24 PM	#15
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 5,717	And what would make a 91/59 more accurate than say a M38 or M44?

10-09-2008, 05:44 PM	#16
BOHICA1962 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: LUBBOCK TEXAS Posts: 257	[quote=Mike82;648184]mmhmm the czech's M91/38 is as accurate, but I want one of them just for kicks...., They have all the kicks I'll ever need.

10-09-2008, 05:46 PM	#17
Geo M44 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: The Desert Posts: 2,401	I like Hex Tula's as well, but mine is an M44... __________________ Remember when seconds count... the police are only minutes away.

10-09-2008, 07:07 PM	#18
texnmidwest Where's that Coyote?! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South east Wisconsin Posts: 4,277	After long deliberations I have come to conclusion that if I see a older military rifle from the Eastern block with a straight or in sometimes bent bolt handle that shoots the 7.62x54R cartridge chances are very good that I will like it! Accuracy? Give me the longer guns any day. Shoulder those things and they are half the distance to the goal line!!!! __________________ "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (If all else fails play dead)

10-09-2008, 09:26 PM	#19
gandog56 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Montgomery, IL. Posts: 5,717	Not to mention being able to pole vault over creeks you may have to cross.

10-10-2008, 01:15 PM	#20
SwedeSteve Thor's Hammer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alaska Posts: 12,659 Images: 1	Then put that bayonet on there and watch out !! __________________ Thank God we don't get as much Government as we pay for! -Will Rogers