Hi,
I see Big 5 here has Mosin Nagants for $99 (+ tax, DROS and a bunch of other stuff so it'll be close to $200 out the door). Any way, I was wondering what are the advantages of these rifles. People seem to love them and having never fired one I'd like to get your input. Thanks.
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Well, IMO what is probably most appealing, is the price. I don't know what DROS is, and how that could add $100 with taxes, but that is unfortunate if it does. But the thing about these Mosins is they are easy to use, and easy to clean. They are reliable, and you could use one for hunting easily. Ammo in bulk is still reasonably cheap, probably somewhere around $90-$100 for a 440 round tin. The ammo is corrosive, and would need to be cleaned as such, but thats easy enough too. There are many different models too that can be had. But Big5 will probably only have 91/30 rifles. Many different arsenals produced MN rifles. And with Finn rifles, it is always a mystery to what Russian or American arsenal and date is beneath the tang.
Just check the Big5 rifles. Bring a bore light so you can see down the barrel to check the bore, or else use a piece of paper or something if they don't have one. If you can see strong lands and grooves then you will should have a good shooter. Some rifles could be counterbored, but that doesn't affect accuracy. Accuracy was the reason they were counterbored, because it wasn't that great. A messed up crown or bore near the muzzle would have lead to that. I don't know as they will take the little trigger "safety" off for you, but you can open the bolt and inspect. As far as matching numbers go, some are ground off and restamped, and others are "electropenciled" written with a vibrating pen or else lined out and restamped. Lined out numbers are usually found on the bottom of the magazine well on the floor plate. Lined out, or electropenciled numbers are common, so don't let that deter you if you're looking for your first Mosin. IMO, recoil isn't bad at all. If you're like an 11 year old kid, then you might want a recoil pad, but for an adult recoil is definitely manageable. Rubber recoil pads can be had easily enough. They are great rifles, and once you get one, you will find another and another and another. You've got one from this arsenal, and now need one from the other, and this model, and that model, and yea, you get the idea. Mosinitis is a disease, curable by acquisition
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Last edited by Iron_Colonel; 09-06-2009 at 02:34 PM.
well, tax is 9.25% (i think it went up temporarily this year.) Dros I thought was $25, but the last few time seems to have been $35, plus a gun lock ($7-10) and I will probably buty some kind of case ($25 but thats my choice). Put it this way, I sure couldn't get 2 for $200.
SO, Why do people love these rifles so much?
__________________ A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong gives it an appearance of being right-Thomas Paine
Well, IMO what is probably most appealing, is the price. I don't know what DROS is, and how that could add $100 with taxes, but that is unfortunate if it does. But the thing about these Mosins is they are easy to use, and easy to clean. They are reliable, and you could use one for hunting easily. Ammo in bulk is still reasonably cheap, probably somewhere around $90-$100 for a 440 round tin. The ammo is corrosive, and would need to be cleaned as such, but thats easy enough too. There are many different models too that can be had. But Big5 will probably only have 91/30 rifles. Many different arsenals produced MN rifles. And with Finn rifles, it is always a mystery to what Russian or American arsenal and date is beneath the tang.
Just check the Big5 rifles. Bring a bore light so you can see down the barrel to check the bore, or else use a piece of paper or something if they don't have one. If you can see strong lands and grooves then you will should have a good shooter. Some rifles could be counterbored, but that doesn't affect accuracy. Accuracy was the reason they were counterbored, because it wasn't that great. A messed up crown or bore near the muzzle would have lead to that. I don't know as they will take the little trigger "safety" off for you, but you can open the bolt and inspect. As far as matching numbers go, some are ground off and restamped, and others are "electropenciled" written with a vibrating pen or else lined out and restamped. Lined out numbers are usually found on the bottom of the magazine well on the floor plate. Lined out, or electropenciled numbers are common, so don't let that deter you if you're looking for your first Mosin. IMO, recoil isn't bad at all. If you're like an 11 year old kid, then you might want a recoil pad, but for an adult recoil is definitely manageable. Rubber recoil pads can be had easily enough. They are great rifles, and once you get one, you will find another and another and another. You've got one from this arsenal, and now need one from the other, and this model, and that model, and yea, you get the idea. Mosinitis is a disease, curable by acquisition
Hi Iron C.
It's a Russian M91/30. Regular price $179.
I'll check you tube for more details. I got interested when I read about that Finnish sniper, Simo Häyhä. I think the russians called him white death. I'm sure you've heard about him, but just in case.
Not only are they a lot of fun to shoot but even more fun to learn about and collect. They offer a firearm worthy of collecting that us poor folks can collect and enjoy. I have always enjoyed going to the big discount houses like Duhnam's and search through their once plentiful but now sparse racks in search of gems. I found my tula m44 and my 43 m44 that way.
Plus, if you look at the price of even used rifles these days....where else are ya gonna find a high powered rifle for a retail price of less than a buck?
Pick one up, clean it, shoot it and you will be hooked just like we were!
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I'll check you tube for more details. I got interested when I read about that Finnish sniper, Simo Häyhä. I think the russians called him white death. I'm sure you've heard about him, but just in case.
I'll check you tube for more details. I got interested when I read about that Finnish sniper, Simo Häyhä. I think the russians called him white death. I'm sure you've heard about him, but just in case.
Thats why alot of us have 03 FFl's, known as a C&R! With the C&R you can order online from the retailer, ie.. J&Gsales. Hex reciver 91/30 good condition $79. + shipping. The big brown truck comes straight to your door. What Kommie Konditions Kalifornia puts on this I dont know. But the BATFE web site should be able to answer that question. As for what is so great about these rifles?, How about the longest serving military rifle in the world? 1891 and going strong. some countries are still producing them. If you need more info check out 7.62x54r.com Welcome to the world of Sergei Mosin and leon Nagant. The disease is known as Mosinitis! Once infected there is no cure. Good luck and good shooting.
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well, tax is 9.25% (i think it went up temporarily this year.) Dros I thought was $25, but the last few time seems to have been $35, plus a gun lock ($7-10) and I will probably buty some kind of case ($25 but thats my choice). Put it this way, I sure couldn't get 2 for $200.
SO, Why do people love these rifles so much?
You mean other than getting an utterly reliable 30 cal rifle for less than 100 bucks?
Can't see the attraction, myself.
(Being satirical of course, since I own 10 of them)
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Thats why alot of us have 03 FFl's, known as a C&R! With the C&R you can order online from the retailer, ie.. J&Gsales. Hex reciver 91/30 good condition $79. + shipping. The big brown truck comes straight to your door. What Kommie Konditions Kalifornia puts on this I dont know.
There are not any conditions on mosin nagant rifles being shipped to your door in CA (if you have the C&R of course).
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The MN is closing in on 120 years of continuous regular army military service. It's already beaten the previous record holder, the British Long Land Musket, better known as the Brown Bess; and its record continues to lengthen. As far as I know, it's still in service with the armies of Finland (as a restocked, rebarreled and scoped sniper rifle built on Mosin hex receivers), as a World War II Soviet-pattern sniper rifle with the Afghan Army, and ditto for the Iraqi Army.
When people talk about the most reliable military rifles in history, the Mosin has to be at the head of the list, ahead even of the vaunted AK-47, the SMLE in all its incarnations, the Martini-Henry, the mighty Mauser and its variants including the legendary M1903 Springfield, and "the most perfect battle implement ever devised," the Garand. The Mosin Nagant isn't as pretty as a Springfield. It's clumsy compared to its contemporary, the Gewehr 1898 Mauser. The Old Man of Battle, George Patton, never praised its virtues. It didn't win an Empire the way the Martini-Henry and the SMLE did. And it never acquired the cachet of the "enemies of democracy's assault rifle" the way Kalashnikov's creation did.
But it's tough, simple, requires a minimum of care and works under any conditions as long as you keep the barrel clear. More than any of the other rifles I named, it really does give "power to the People." The great irony of the Mosin Nagant is that the People it's giving the power to seem to be the ones it was made by the millions to fight against. Even so, Russian/Soviet made or not, we Mosin shooters love our naturalized MNs. I can't praise them enough.
