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10-13-2008, 10:44 PM
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#81 | | Registered User
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I have a Hawke Varmint II 4-16 x 44 on my ATR 270 synthetic stock and have shot bottle caps off a stump at 200 yds,..other than filing down the join ridge on the synthetic stock I cant complain about this very affordable and reliable rifle. 1 inch groups at 150 yds aint nothin to sniff at man !. It has an appetite for federal 130grn power shok and liiikkkes it :-)
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10-13-2008, 10:53 PM
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#82 | | Firearm Zealot
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i went and recheck mine and its a 4x12x40 bushnell banner one thing i was wondering is what is the front adjustment for on the scope?i seen that the front lens on the scope has the yards on it i think it goes from 15 yards all the way up to 400 yards and it turns.this it the first scope i have tha did this . and like i said this is the first time sinse i bought it two years ago that i shot it so i never realy noticed it and i never read the book on the scope?i can take a picture if needed.
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10-13-2008, 11:15 PM
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#83 | | Firearm Zealot
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10-14-2008, 11:55 AM
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#84 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Hey I just bought an ATR 100 in .30-06 last week but still need a scope. I was thinkin a 3-9X40 Nikon Pro Staff. Does anybody have any expirence with this scope? Is it a good scope?
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10-15-2008, 12:30 AM
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#85 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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The bushnell banner didnt come factory with the rifle did it? Because all the factory ones i saw have a big "M" stamped on them on the side in 3x9x40. Nikons are great scopes if you can afford it go for it!
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10-15-2008, 12:42 AM
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#86 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by tommy | i went and recheck mine and its a 4x12x40 bushnell banner one thing i was wondering is what is the front adjustment for on the scope?i seen that the front lens on the scope has the yards on it i think it goes from 15 yards all the way up to 400 yards and it turns.this it the first scope i have tha did this . and like i said this is the first time sinse i bought it two years ago that i shot it so i never realy noticed it and i never read the book on the scope?i can take a picture if needed. | Tommy, glad you finally got around to shooting it (can't rush these things ya know..  ). The adjustment at the objective bell is the parrallax adjustment. This is so you can adjust the scope to focus properly at varying distances. In a standard scope set to focus @ 100 yds, you won't be able to see what you're shooting at if say, a coyote, walks in frt of your blind @ 15 yds. You can use the parrallax to set the range you want to see at.
This isn't an exact description, but more a practical application, lol...
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10-15-2008, 08:50 AM
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#87 | | Firearm Zealot
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ok thanks for the explanation!!! i think i know now. and the scope didn't come with it i bought it the same night but seperate i paid i think around 120.00 for it. it's a pretty decent scope too.i was gonna try to get one for my ar15 until the same day i went shoot this gun i took one of the red dots off one of my highpoints and mounted it on my ar15 man that thing is nice now. i went through 4 30 round mags and it's still zerod so it's holding it's own.by the way my red dots are aimpoint silver antlers. they are great for the money "under 40.00. one day i'll upgrade to a night vision but thats another thread and another day.
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10-15-2008, 08:53 AM
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#88 | | Firearm Zealot
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i wanted to asked about range of knock down power between the .270/.308 what round is better?? never messed with a .308 atleast i don't remember.lol. i wanna get another atr but i don't know what caliber to get .
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10-15-2008, 12:26 PM
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#89 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by tommy | i wanted to asked about range of knock down power between the .270/.308 what round is better?? never messed with a .308 atleast i don't remember.lol. i wanna get another atr but i don't know what caliber to get . | There's not alot of difference in punch. The .270 will shoot a little flatter. I have a .308 that I've hunted with for about 12 years. I've made some decent shots with it. I wouldn't really say long range shots. The farthest I've killed a deer was 255 yards. The .308 will work for most shots.
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10-15-2008, 12:41 PM
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#90 | | Firearm Zealot
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well i really don't hunt i buy all my guns with a shtf intention in mind so it kinda sounds wierd but all my guns are bought to kill a human if needed other than that they will only kill paper in their life time. so if the world never comes to and shtf situation my guns will only shoot at paper but i'm talking about human knock down power . around my house if i had to hunt all my shots would be 100 yards or under so any gun would do but in a defense mod there is a highway that i would have to take out people and cars on to stop them from entering my street thats what i am wondering. lets say a 500yard shot on a human i'm hopeing i never have to use my guns in these ways but i wanna know what guns will do what in what situation. so whats the furthest shot i could take with a .270 as for as a sniper gun or would the .308 be better to get for that situation. because i can just go pick up another atr in the .308 caliber
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10-15-2008, 07:15 PM
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#91 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Um in my opinion any rifle can kill anything if you know where to place the bullet. I wouldnt shoot at a live target at 500 yds. Theres way to many risk factors against you. The stuff you see on tv is total b.s. I was in the Usmc and worked on a 1000 yd sniper range and trust me it takes years to perfect this kind of shooting. and even then its incosistant. And precise made rifles for it. Any store bought rifle in any caliber I wouldnt risk a shot over 300 yds at live target. and if there was any kind of wind that would be a tough shot. It comes down to wether you want to hunt moose,elk,muley's or whitetail deer. And what terrain you will be hunting on. That decides what caliber to buy for me and also the cost of the shells. Just my 2 cents. Good luck!
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10-17-2008, 07:21 PM
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#92 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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hey guys i ended up not gettin the nikon just cuz they were out of it but while i was at sportsmans i got talked into lookin through a Burris full field II and i fell in love. haha maybe its just cuz i have been useing scopes that have seen to many days but when i looked through this burris it was just so clear. I walked outa sportsmans with it fer 170 bucks so im pretty happy. gonna go sight it in now tho cuz we are goin huntin tomarrow. just wondered if anybody else has this scope and what you think. c-ya guys
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11-14-2008, 05:08 AM
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#93 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Hey i am getting a Mossberg 100 ATR .30-06 scoped combo tomorrow afternoon, i was wondering if any one has put a muzzle brake on it. I am getting a QUE brake.
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11-14-2008, 08:59 PM
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#94 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I picked up a pre owned ATR 100 yesterday. Chambered in the .243, has a 4x12 Bushnell. I'll shoot it tomorrow and I'm glad to see so many good reports on this gun.
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11-14-2008, 10:03 PM
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#95 | | Registered User
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| Whats best Mossberg ATR, Rem 770, or Weatherby VG1
I am looking at buying a deer hunting rifle. Most shot would be less than 250 yds. Which would be the best rifle, Mossberg ATR, Remington 770 or the Weatherby VG1. I am also struggling with which caliber. 270, 308 or 30-06. Has anyone shot any of these rifles with these calibers?
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11-14-2008, 10:47 PM
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#96 | | Firearm Zealot
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Originally Posted by jamescoz28 | I am looking at buying a deer hunting rifle. Most shot would be less than 250 yds. Which would be the best rifle, Mossberg ATR, Remington 770 or the Weatherby VG1. I am also struggling with which caliber. 270, 308 or 30-06. Has anyone shot any of these rifles with these calibers?
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jamescoz28 | Welcome to G&G! Of the three listed, I'd choose the Weatherby first and then the ATR. The 770 would be a last resort to me. Another great option is the Stevens 200 which is the old-style Savage110 without the Accutrigger and is in a grey synth. stock. All three cals. are great, it just depends on your intended usage. I like the .270 for it's versatility in my area. If I were shooting larger game than deer, I'd prob. go with a .30-06.
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11-16-2008, 12:15 AM
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#97 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by jamescoz28 | I am looking at buying a deer hunting rifle. Most shot would be less than 250 yds. Which would be the best rifle, Mossberg ATR, Remington 770 or the Weatherby VG1. I am also struggling with which caliber. 270, 308 or 30-06. Has anyone shot any of these rifles with these calibers?
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jamescoz28 | I just looked at all three of those guns, I chose the ATR in a .30-06. The Rem 770 is not very good quality, and the VG1 was a good gun but didn't fit me right and didn't like that green stock that I saw it in. Out of the three calibers i would choose the .30-06. It is an all around round that you can use from varmits to elk or moose. You can get it from 125 grain bullets to 220 grain. The .308 is just a smaller .30-06 and the .270 is good for deer or anything smaller.
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11-16-2008, 12:21 AM
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#98 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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Originally Posted by jamescoz28 | I am looking at buying a deer hunting rifle. Most shot would be less than 250 yds. Which would be the best rifle, Mossberg ATR, Remington 770 or the Weatherby VG1. I am also struggling with which caliber. 270, 308 or 30-06. Has anyone shot any of these rifles with these calibers?
Thanks for your responses,
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Well as far as caliber, there is no right or wrong answer, just a lot of opinions. I had a Remington 710 (the 770 took it's place) in .270 and killed a deer at 100 yards no problem. I now have a Mossberg ATR in .308 just because where I hunt is hardwoods and 90% of the time I will not have a shot farther than 100 yards (most likely 50-75). I also wanted a wood stock and the ATR is only available with wood in the short action .243 and .308. "I" felt the .308 would give me a little more knock down power than the .270 also and to me the .270 really shines in the 200 yard and beyond range with it's fast/flat shooting nature. With all that said if I could only buy one caliber to hunt more than just whitetail it would be the 30-06 with all the loads available it is a gun that can do it all.
As far as the 770 or the Mossberg, one factor I would consider is the 770 has a detachable clip and the Mossberg doesn't if that matters to you. From my experience the Mossber feels like a better quality rifle especially the short action with the walnut stock. It is a nice looking gun where the synthetic stock looks cheap, but shoots just as good. My 710 rem shot comparable to my Mossy. and the the 770 stock looks 100% better than the 710 which is why the only reason I sold it. Flip a coin or go with the one you can get the best deal on.
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11-16-2008, 12:22 AM
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#99 | | Firearm Enthusiast
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I just shot my .30-06 Mossberg 100 ATR Scoped Combo to day for the first time. Great gun, really light took a few extra shots to sight it in. Probably going to get a bigger scope after the Holidays. Can't wait to take it hunting during thanks giving.
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11-16-2008, 11:13 AM
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#100 | | Registered User
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Well im new to the forum, and just wanted to post. So I love my Mossberg 4x4. I know not the same thing as the 100 ATR, but close. The detachable box magazine, i could do without due to the wiggling. So thats 1up for the 100 ATR. But the reason I went with the 4x4 over the Browning, remington, savage,etc was the wiggling (free floating barrel) i despise that much movement in a barrel between the forearm. Suprisingly in contrast to their shotguns it didn't wiggle at all. Mossberg is a great quality gun in my opinion. Names aren't sh*t, your eye and steady hand are what is. The only problem with Mossberg is trying to get through to their customer service. (which im having a problem with, posted in another forum).
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