Black Powder Revolver???????

Smokin_Gun · 05-26-2005, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Dog

Which shop in Florida, and do they have a website? May I inquire as to the price? I may be interested in one of these guns.

http://www.buffalobillsshootingstore...leloaders.html

Item# 1056 I believe, ask for Richard the he's the owner... tell um I sent ya. $189, $196.85 w/ shipping UPS Ground. This model goes for $250-$355 I have seen. Cabelas have them for $250 and they are usually the cheapest.

Smokin_Gun · 05-26-2005, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by rebel727

Polished ain't stainless. Polished is devoid of bluing and polished. Stainless is steel mixed with chromium to prevent rust. the more chromium the more rust resistant. Polished will rust if not taken care of. Now they can polish SS to make it shinier but to me if the add don't say stainless it ain't stainless.

The reason I asked is because I saw it advertised at Suttlery Creek as Stainless and Cabelas as Polished Steel. Both are magnetic so Buffalo Bill's couldn't really tell me. Not a rust or corrosion spot on it. How would you find out for sure without asking. How could you tell the differance? The owner said he couldn't tell a differance between it and his stainless Ruger on his hip. But thanks for the reply.
Found out about the Steel from a guy that bought one. :cheer: It's a steel alloy much harder than the standard blued steel revolvers. More resistant to rusting and corrosion, very accurate and long lasting.

Smokin_Gun · 05-26-2005, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dennis

It still looks like a beautiful carry gun.
I have a 1858 Remington Repop (Uberti)
AND a 1847 Walker (Uberti)
both are great pistols. I have worked on the pietta's
they are ok but not as finnished as the Uberti products.
Beretta has reciently purchased Uberti so the Quality of the Uberti products will only get better.
I would not mind getting a short barreled .36 or .44 cal colt for a "walking around" gun to ride in my coat pocket.
I have had good luck with Beare grease as a lubricant WITH wonderwads
I get the wonderwads greasy and use .454 size balls that shave a ring of lead when rammed.
the Remmington is much easier to clean than the walker, it was made to be
My remmy shoots exelent with 30 grains of 777, hits a little high at 25 feet but they all do that.
the walker is good with 45 grains.
I have shot one cylinder full with 60 grains. (everybody does that)
it went bang and a lot more recoil. I didnt see where it was shooting.
the nice thing about Black powder repop revolvers is that it is impossible to overload them and blow them up with too much black powder or black powder equivelent.
a Walker cylinder will only hold about 60 grains a remmy only about 45 grains.
the rest runs over
grease your wads and use the biggest balls that you can get to fit in to the chamber.
All .44 cal Uberti pistols use .454 sized balls.
it is possible to use .440 balls with a cloth patch
I do not suggest this if you can avoid it.
the felt wonder wads work best, too bad they didnt invent them back in the day..
have fun and remember when shooting BP repops its just for fun.

Dennis you would never want to put a .440 patched ball in an .44 revolver. Chambers are .451 -.454 ball is forced into a barrel with lands and grooves from .002 or .003 smaller. First it won't work Second the patch won't go down the barrel and a .440 ball will bounce around. If you are familiar with the 1872 "Open Top" the conversions on the .44's use the same barrel for the .45 Long Colt. One other thing. I never use wonder wads, not needed and a waste a money. Unless you don't want to lube the balls in the chamber, then by all means use um. I have a recipe or you can come up with your own to make lube pills. Beewax or parafin and /or a combo mixed with T/c Natural Lube 1000 Bore Butter. heated in a frypan like a pancake. Use a tube the diameter of your chamber or jus a lil bigger and a longer tube that the first fits inside of to hold the stack of pills, and there you have them prestaked/rolled ready to carry. Consistancy just stiff enough to use as you would a lube patch. Seasons, lubricates, and protects from chainfire s at ball end. Mostly I use a large plastic syringe and seal around each ball with a bead of Bore butter. Same effect more powder room. Give it a try you won't be disatisfied. :right:

My Pietta Rem.44 I did a Hammer and bolt job trigger was fine. I like it better than my Colt/Uberti 1873BP.44 Cattleman action wise... the Rem is smoother. I got both and the Pietta was shooting 3shots it same hole at 10 paces. I really like the Colt too, but differantly. Both excellent shooters. We'll see how the 1851 U.S. Marshal shoots. It's Just real hard to beat an 1858 .44 Remington. :target:

Dennis · 05-27-2005, 03:38 AM

yep you are right about its hard to beat the remmy. it is the smoothest easiestto clean easiest to shoot BP pistol I have found.
the colt is good but doesnt stand up to fouling as well as the remmy IMHO.

I can hit pop cans at 50+ feet.

Smokin_Gun · 05-27-2005, 03:56 PM

Hell Dennis I was puttin' 3 balls in the same hole at 10 paces about 40ft. LoL! love that Rem....

Thrawn · 05-27-2005, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rebel727

Polished ain't stainless. Polished is devoid of bluing and polished. Stainless is steel mixed with chromium to prevent rust. the more chromium the more rust resistant. Polished will rust if not taken care of. Now they can polish SS to make it shinier but to me if the add don't say stainless it ain't stainless.

Stainless is an alloy of steel and nickel. :right:

Thrawn · 05-27-2005, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Encarta

Stainless Steels

Stainless steels contain chromium, nickel, and other alloying elements that keep them bright and rust resistant in spite of moisture or the action of corrosive acids and gases. Some stainless steels are very hard; some have unusual strength and will retain that strength for long periods at extremely high and low temperatures. Because of their shining surfaces architects often use them for decorative purposes. Stainless steels are used for the pipes and tanks of petroleum refineries and chemical plants, for jet planes, and for space capsules. Surgical instruments and equipment are made from these steels, and they are also used to patch or replace broken bones because the steels can withstand the action of body fluids. In kitchens and in plants where food is prepared, handling equipment is often made of stainless steel because it does not taint the food and can be easily cleaned

We were both right, sorry.

Smokin_Gun · 05-28-2005, 03:20 AM

Trawn this seems to contain less chromium, maybe more nickel. It's just a more dull or darker finish than any stainless like my Ruger Police Service Six 2 1/2". Right just a different type alloy. Posting a pic, maybe see if it works:
http://tinypic.com/5eisgh

Thrawn · 05-28-2005, 03:44 AM

I'm bettin' it's stainless :nod:

Smokin_Gun · 05-30-2005, 02:58 PM

Sorry Thrawn it's not stainless, not as the handgun industry refers to it. A polished steel alloy not stainless and not blued steel. Harder and stronger than blued Italian gun steel, but not considered stainless steel. Just as I posted above, if you don't believe me Contact F.LLI Pietta, EMF,or IAR ask them. And I outta know as I just finnished cleanin the rust/residue out of it, cyl. and barrel.

Smokin_Gun · 08-28-2006, 01:32 AM

Anybody still here that I remember, or remembers me?
Just checkin' about a year later...:target:

Maser 209 · 08-31-2006, 12:00 AM

Oh I wished I never saw this thread. I so badly miss my replica 1858 Army revolver I got from Cabelas. It was that Buffelo model with the 12" bbl. It was so awsome and cheap to shoot because all I had to buy was the caps. I made my own powder and casted my own balls.

.22guy · 08-31-2006, 01:19 AM

Man, I want one of these things so bad. What's the best one for cheap????

LEE3370 · 09-10-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokin_Gun

Anybody still here that I remember, or remembers me?
Just checkin' about a year later...:target:

Of course, I member you, Smokin.

D

Lee

Smokin_Gun · 09-11-2006, 04:45 PM

Hey there Lee I kinda figured you'd remember me...
I hadn't been in here fo a spell. Any new projects lately? Or Has that Gunslinger 1858 been keepin' you busy and the bottles swingin'?

SG
:target:

LEE3370 · 09-13-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokin_Gun

Hey there Lee I kinda figured you'd remember me...
I hadn't been in here fo a spell. Any new projects lately? Or Has that Gunslinger 1858 been keepin' you busy and the bottles swingin'?
SG
:target:

Yep,
It DOES make the bottles swing----when I hit um..
That gun really makes me feel like a cowboy. Right now, that is the one (cowboy gun) I shoot most.
Right now I am looking for a 5.5" barrel for a Pietta 1851 to finish a set. I have a 12" barrel, a 7.5" barrel and a shoulder stock. What I need is a 5.5" to finish the set.

Lee

Smokin_Gun · 09-14-2006, 12:43 AM

Lee is it an 1851 Navy 5.5"(.36) barrel? Is that what's on a Sherrif's Model? Or are you gettin' a used barrel and cutting it?
What was the model that you just finnished not long ago called?...it was a pretty rare version. I think I still have the pic.
:cheer:

LEE3370 · 09-14-2006, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Smokin_Gun

Lee is it an 1851 Navy 5.5"(.36) barrel? Is that what's on a Sherrif's Model? Or are you gettin' a used barrel and cutting it?
What was the model that you just finnished not long ago called?...it was a pretty rare version. I think I still have the pic.
:cheer:

Smokin,
The barrel that I am looking for is a .44 cal. Yes, it is called a sherrif's Model. They come out with the 5.5" barrel.
The one that just got finished was put together out of parts that I got here and there. It is a .36 cal. Built mainly on a Pietta 1851 steel frame with a 5.5" and a 7.5" barrel and white grips and a simi fluted cylinder. I would like to find one of those snub nose barrels for it but have never seen one for sale. VTI has them for $75.00 but that is more than I want to put in to it.
Lee

Smokin_Gun · 09-15-2006, 02:39 AM

Ok I was thinkin' .44 but I weren't sure... $75 is alot to shuck out for a snub barrel...
You could always keep an eye on the auctions even Ebay for parts, which I'm sure you're doing' anyway.
That'll be a nice set Lee.

Smokin_Gun · 09-18-2006, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by .22guy

Man, I want one of these things so bad. What's the best one for cheap????

Get the 1858 New Model Army Remington...$179.99 at Cabelas.
Cabela's -- Pistols

By far the best funtioning and best price.

05-27-2005, 03:38 AM	#44
Dennis Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,883	yep you are right about its hard to beat the remmy. it is the smoothest easiestto clean easiest to shoot BP pistol I have found. the colt is good but doesnt stand up to fouling as well as the remmy IMHO. I can hit pop cans at 50+ feet. __________________ Submitted with respect to all

05-27-2005, 03:56 PM	#45
Smokin_Gun Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, So. California Posts: 71	Hell Dennis I was puttin' 3 balls in the same hole at 10 paces about 40ft. LoL! love that Rem.... __________________ :right: Nothin' like smokin' Black powder!

05-28-2005, 03:20 AM	#48
Smokin_Gun Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, So. California Posts: 71	Trawn this seems to contain less chromium, maybe more nickel. It's just a more dull or darker finish than any stainless like my Ruger Police Service Six 2 1/2". Right just a different type alloy. Posting a pic, maybe see if it works: http://tinypic.com/5eisgh __________________ :right: Nothin' like smokin' Black powder! Last edited by Smokin_Gun; 05-28-2005 at 03:23 AM.

05-30-2005, 02:58 PM	#50
Smokin_Gun Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, So. California Posts: 71	Sorry Thrawn it's not stainless, not as the handgun industry refers to it. A polished steel alloy not stainless and not blued steel. Harder and stronger than blued Italian gun steel, but not considered stainless steel. Just as I posted above, if you don't believe me Contact F.LLI Pietta, EMF,or IAR ask them. And I outta know as I just finnished cleanin the rust/residue out of it, cyl. and barrel. __________________ :right: Nothin' like smokin' Black powder! Last edited by Smokin_Gun; 05-30-2005 at 03:10 PM.

08-28-2006, 01:32 AM	#51
Smokin_Gun Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, So. California Posts: 71	Anybody still here that I remember, or remembers me? Just checkin' about a year later...:target: __________________ :right: Nothin' like smokin' Black powder! Last edited by Smokin_Gun; 08-28-2006 at 01:40 AM.

05-28-2005, 03:44 AM	#49
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Images: 6	I'm bettin' it's stainless :nod:

08-31-2006, 12:00 AM	#52
Maser 209 Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cali Posts: 45	Oh I wished I never saw this thread. I so badly miss my replica 1858 Army revolver I got from Cabelas. It was that Buffelo model with the 12" bbl. It was so awsome and cheap to shoot because all I had to buy was the caps. I made my own powder and casted my own balls.

08-31-2006, 01:19 AM	#53
.22guy Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,263	Man, I want one of these things so bad. What's the best one for cheap???? __________________ My first priority will be to reinstate the assault weapons ban as soon as I take office.

09-11-2006, 04:45 PM	#55
Smokin_Gun Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, So. California Posts: 71	Hey there Lee I kinda figured you'd remember me... I hadn't been in here fo a spell. Any new projects lately? Or Has that Gunslinger 1858 been keepin' you busy and the bottles swingin'? SG :target: __________________ :right: Nothin' like smokin' Black powder!

09-14-2006, 12:43 AM	#57
Smokin_Gun Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, So. California Posts: 71	Lee is it an 1851 Navy 5.5"(.36) barrel? Is that what's on a Sherrif's Model? Or are you gettin' a used barrel and cutting it? What was the model that you just finnished not long ago called?...it was a pretty rare version. I think I still have the pic. :cheer: __________________ :right: Nothin' like smokin' Black powder!

09-15-2006, 02:39 AM	#59
Smokin_Gun Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mojave Desert, So. California Posts: 71	Ok I was thinkin' .44 but I weren't sure... $75 is alot to shuck out for a snub barrel... You could always keep an eye on the auctions even Ebay for parts, which I'm sure you're doing' anyway. That'll be a nice set Lee. __________________ :right: Nothin' like smokin' Black powder!