Black Powder Revolver??????? - Page 4

Allan111 · 07-09-2007, 02:21 PM

Dennis, Re: 30 grains of 777 in the Remington. Was that actual weight or equivalent volume to BP? I have a Remmy, Uberti, brand new and am interested in the max load with 777.
email is amatthews2@stny.rr.com
Allan

Idaho Dave · 07-09-2007, 03:07 PM

My daughter got me one of the 44 cal cap and ball revlovers from cabels just before she left for boot camp this spring. I must say she got low end model but I have been really happy with it shoots pretty good and has been a lot of fun. I was using #11 caps at first and they would fall off the unfired charges so I swithced to #10's about 200 (no kidding I got a lot of time on my hands) shots later the # 10's don't fire on the first fall of the hammer so I switched back to #11's that now dont fall off, the niples are still in good shape. You might try this if you have similar trouble. The cleaning isnt so bad (of coures I like working with the mechanics of all guns) in about a half an hour with a pan of boiling water and some soap you can have it done nicely.

Elan Lee · 12-21-2007, 08:17 PM

[quote=Smokin_Gun;188675]If you want to compare Ballistic results, cronograph and impact. .44 Walker w/ 45gr. of fffg is equivilent to a .44Mag; .44 Colt or Rem w/32gr. = a .45Auto;

If the data is (fairly) accurate as to 32gr of fffg being equal to a .45 auto, which is of greater velocity than .45 long Colt, and Cylinders are made for the Remington and Ruger to hold/fire the .45 Long Colt, then why cannot the SP charge for the .45 Long Colt or even the .44 special be used in one of these BP revolvers? Same would apply to the Colt Army that has available a SP cylinder for (I think) the .44 Colt (less powerful than the .44 Special)? Seems the pressures would be same; only real AND SERIOUS danger would be overloading.

petemi · 01-19-2008, 11:54 AM

I have a Navy Arms 1858 Taget model with 2 cylinders. I love it. I sold my 1860 Colt because it couldn't compare. I used to use Crisco over the cylinder, but it cakes up and is hard to clean. I'm trying Thompson Center Maxi Lube now to see how it cleans up. Two cylinders are great for squirrel or bunny hunting. The cylinders change out in seconds.

Im283 · 01-21-2008, 11:36 AM

I have had an 1851 Navy for over 20 years, it is great to shoot. I recently bought a 1858 Remington Army from E.M.F., it is a Pietta and so far I really enjoy it.

BTW both are in .44 caliber. I use .451 or .454 balls and have not really found much difference in accuracy with either. Both sizes leave a shaved off ring of lead when stuffing them in the chamber.

I have always used Crisco to cover the rounds in the chamber and never had any issue with chainfires. I have also found that using piping hot water right from the tap and some Dawn dish soap that they are really easy to clean up.

Too bad this forum is not more active, I really enjoy BP

Kodiak32 · 01-23-2008, 06:01 PM

I picked up two Pietta 1858 Remington Army's thru Cabela's last year and I enjoy shooting them. I love the Remington style, because I change out cylinders in a few seconds. I'll typically load up two extra cylinders for each pistol when I go out and shoot.

The Ruger old Army is a fine piece, it just depends on how much you want to spend. If you shoot alot then it's well worth it.

I didn't overlook the Colts, I have two Uberti 1847 Walker Colts that are just a blast too shot. I typically load those up at 60 grains. I bought both of the Walkers online at Dixie Gun Works. The worst part of the Walkers is having them both on the belt at the same time, they weigh around 5lbs each. I also have a Pietta 1851 Navy Colt.

I agree with Im283, maybe we can get some more activity going in this area. I might start up a post or two.

12-21-2007, 08:17 PM	#63
Elan Lee Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Keystone Posts: 1	Won't know if don't ask [quote=Smokin_Gun;188675]If you want to compare Ballistic results, cronograph and impact. .44 Walker w/ 45gr. of fffg is equivilent to a .44Mag; .44 Colt or Rem w/32gr. = a .45Auto; If the data is (fairly) accurate as to 32gr of fffg being equal to a .45 auto, which is of greater velocity than .45 long Colt, and Cylinders are made for the Remington and Ruger to hold/fire the .45 Long Colt, then why cannot the SP charge for the .45 Long Colt or even the .44 special be used in one of these BP revolvers? Same would apply to the Colt Army that has available a SP cylinder for (I think) the .44 Colt (less powerful than the .44 Special)? Seems the pressures would be same; only real AND SERIOUS danger would be overloading.

01-23-2008, 06:01 PM	#66
Kodiak32 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 298	I picked up two Pietta 1858 Remington Army's thru Cabela's last year and I enjoy shooting them. I love the Remington style, because I change out cylinders in a few seconds. I'll typically load up two extra cylinders for each pistol when I go out and shoot. The Ruger old Army is a fine piece, it just depends on how much you want to spend. If you shoot alot then it's well worth it. I didn't overlook the Colts, I have two Uberti 1847 Walker Colts that are just a blast too shot. I typically load those up at 60 grains. I bought both of the Walkers online at Dixie Gun Works. The worst part of the Walkers is having them both on the belt at the same time, they weigh around 5lbs each. I also have a Pietta 1851 Navy Colt. I agree with Im283, maybe we can get some more activity going in this area. I might start up a post or two. Last edited by Kodiak32; 01-23-2008 at 06:10 PM. Reason: Wasn't ready to post.

07-09-2007, 02:21 PM	#61
Allan111 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1	Dennis, Re: 30 grains of 777 in the Remington. Was that actual weight or equivalent volume to BP? I have a Remmy, Uberti, brand new and am interested in the max load with 777. email is amatthews2@stny.rr.com Allan

07-09-2007, 03:07 PM	#62
Idaho Dave Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 535	My daughter got me one of the 44 cal cap and ball revlovers from cabels just before she left for boot camp this spring. I must say she got low end model but I have been really happy with it shoots pretty good and has been a lot of fun. I was using #11 caps at first and they would fall off the unfired charges so I swithced to #10's about 200 (no kidding I got a lot of time on my hands) shots later the # 10's don't fire on the first fall of the hammer so I switched back to #11's that now dont fall off, the niples are still in good shape. You might try this if you have similar trouble. The cleaning isnt so bad (of coures I like working with the mechanics of all guns) in about a half an hour with a pan of boiling water and some soap you can have it done nicely.

01-19-2008, 11:54 AM	#64
petemi Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Engadine, Upper Peninsula, MI Posts: 90	I have a Navy Arms 1858 Taget model with 2 cylinders. I love it. I sold my 1860 Colt because it couldn't compare. I used to use Crisco over the cylinder, but it cakes up and is hard to clean. I'm trying Thompson Center Maxi Lube now to see how it cleans up. Two cylinders are great for squirrel or bunny hunting. The cylinders change out in seconds.

01-21-2008, 11:36 AM	#65
Im283 Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23	I have had an 1851 Navy for over 20 years, it is great to shoot. I recently bought a 1858 Remington Army from E.M.F., it is a Pietta and so far I really enjoy it. BTW both are in .44 caliber. I use .451 or .454 balls and have not really found much difference in accuracy with either. Both sizes leave a shaved off ring of lead when stuffing them in the chamber. I have always used Crisco to cover the rounds in the chamber and never had any issue with chainfires. I have also found that using piping hot water right from the tap and some Dawn dish soap that they are really easy to clean up. Too bad this forum is not more active, I really enjoy BP