replacement barrel for CVA? or just a new rifle?

Lonegun1894 · 10-20-2005, 12:37 AM

I have a CVA Hawken .50 caplock. The barrel is 1:48 and shoots decent, but i was wondering about getting other barrels for it. Preferably bigger calibers, maybe a smoothbore, any ideas are appreciated. CVA was very helpful in emails, until i asked about buying another barrel from them, havent gotten a response since. Anyways, i looked at various sites, and had my hopes up about Green Mountain, until i noticed that most places say their products wont fit a CVA. Think i should keep trying, or just save a few bucks here and there til i have enough saved for something better built than that CVA? Thanks.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-20-2005, 01:17 AM

Hmm, rebarreling is probably only cost effective if the old barrel's shot. In this case I'd say a new rifle would be the way to go. More variety and a gun definitely made for your caliber of choice.

Lonegun1894 · 10-20-2005, 01:29 AM

BRG,
I have been itching for a flinter, but you know how that goes. There's want, and then there's afford. If i do end up saving for one and getting a new rifle, it'll probably be a Lyman Great Plains Rifle .54 flint-lock. The CVA is fun and it shoots ok, but it's not up to par with heavy loads or at longer ranges--half way useless past 75yds. Didnt i read somewhere on here that you shoot flint? Maybe i can get some ideas/suggestions on both this current CVA, and possibly other suggestions on other rifles some people on here may have experience with. Fire away, y'all.
Paul

BattleRifleG3 · 10-20-2005, 01:35 AM

My flintlock experience is with the historical musketry, ie Revolutionary War Era. I used to laugh at the stainless synthetic ones in the store. Now I know that there's such a thing as muzzleloading season and that rifles that get used for actual accurate hunting need to be kept cleaner than our muskets which were not very accurate to begin with.

Thrawn · 10-20-2005, 02:54 AM

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that rifles that get used for actual accurate hunting need to be kept cleaner than our muskets which were not very accurate to begin with.

Hitting an 12inch target at 200 yards was not uncommon for the American rifleman in 1776.

Not saying I could do it.....
Just saying......

BattleRifleG3 · 10-20-2005, 01:18 PM

Key word - Rifleman. Not infantryman.

The rifles vs muskets then were like sniper rifles vs submachineguns now. High rate of less accurate fire vs low rate of accurate fire.

Outriderdark · 10-20-2005, 01:54 PM

My CVA shoots better dirty.

BattleRifleG3 · 10-20-2005, 10:44 PM

Musketballs were of smaller diameter than the bore. They would bounce back and forth before exiting. This was for faster loading, also for clearance for cartridge papers and fouling.

Thrawn · 10-20-2005, 10:47 PM

You're talking about smooth bore? (like the brown bess)

BattleRifleG3 · 10-20-2005, 11:01 PM

Correctumundo.

Thrawn · 10-20-2005, 11:03 PM

Ahhh, not exactly a tack driver.

Bountyhunter · 10-22-2005, 09:20 PM

Get on the phone and call Track of the Wolf.

If it was me, I'd do that after I called CVA.

B

Lonegun1894 · 10-29-2005, 07:21 AM

Well, still have several unanswered emails that went out to CVA and i'm thinking i might not hear drom them unless i call them and dont give them the chance to ignore email. Who wants to bet i'll get either a bad runaround or just hung up on? At least that's what i'm starting to expect at this point. Bountyhunter, i think you just may have the right idea. TOTW has a LOT of good stuff. Midsouthshooters has some good prices. Either way, i might have to bite the bullet and just not deal with CVA anymore if i keep being ignored.

10-20-2005, 12:37 AM	#1
Lonegun1894 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (0)	replacement barrel for CVA? or just a new rifle? I have a CVA Hawken .50 caplock. The barrel is 1:48 and shoots decent, but i was wondering about getting other barrels for it. Preferably bigger calibers, maybe a smoothbore, any ideas are appreciated. CVA was very helpful in emails, until i asked about buying another barrel from them, havent gotten a response since. Anyways, i looked at various sites, and had my hopes up about Green Mountain, until i noticed that most places say their products wont fit a CVA. Think i should keep trying, or just save a few bucks here and there til i have enough saved for something better built than that CVA? Thanks.

10-20-2005, 01:17 AM	#2
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Hmm, rebarreling is probably only cost effective if the old barrel's shot. In this case I'd say a new rifle would be the way to go. More variety and a gun definitely made for your caliber of choice. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-20-2005, 01:35 AM	#4
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	My flintlock experience is with the historical musketry, ie Revolutionary War Era. I used to laugh at the stainless synthetic ones in the store. Now I know that there's such a thing as muzzleloading season and that rifles that get used for actual accurate hunting need to be kept cleaner than our muskets which were not very accurate to begin with. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-20-2005, 01:18 PM	#6
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Key word - Rifleman. Not infantryman. The rifles vs muskets then were like sniper rifles vs submachineguns now. High rate of less accurate fire vs low rate of accurate fire. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-20-2005, 01:54 PM	#7
Outriderdark Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,125 Trader Rating: (0)	My CVA shoots better dirty. __________________ "Would it make you feel better, little girl, if they was thrown outta windows?"-Archie Bunker

10-20-2005, 01:29 AM	#3
Lonegun1894 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (0)	BRG, I have been itching for a flinter, but you know how that goes. There's want, and then there's afford. If i do end up saving for one and getting a new rifle, it'll probably be a Lyman Great Plains Rifle .54 flint-lock. The CVA is fun and it shoots ok, but it's not up to par with heavy loads or at longer ranges--half way useless past 75yds. Didnt i read somewhere on here that you shoot flint? Maybe i can get some ideas/suggestions on both this current CVA, and possibly other suggestions on other rifles some people on here may have experience with. Fire away, y'all. Paul

10-20-2005, 10:44 PM	#8
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Musketballs were of smaller diameter than the bore. They would bounce back and forth before exiting. This was for faster loading, also for clearance for cartridge papers and fouling. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-20-2005, 10:47 PM	#9
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0)	You're talking about smooth bore? (like the brown bess)

10-20-2005, 11:01 PM	#10
BattleRifleG3 Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Western PA Posts: 11,401 Trader Rating: (0)	Correctumundo. __________________ Trust is earned, not... GIVEN away. - Worf

10-20-2005, 11:03 PM	#11
Thrawn Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Okeefenokee Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0)	Ahhh, not exactly a tack driver.

10-22-2005, 09:20 PM	#12
Bountyhunter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New Mexico Territory Posts: 103 Trader Rating: (0)	Get on the phone and call Track of the Wolf. If it was me, I'd do that after I called CVA. B

10-29-2005, 07:21 AM	#13
Lonegun1894 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 206 Trader Rating: (0)	Well, still have several unanswered emails that went out to CVA and i'm thinking i might not hear drom them unless i call them and dont give them the chance to ignore email. Who wants to bet i'll get either a bad runaround or just hung up on? At least that's what i'm starting to expect at this point. Bountyhunter, i think you just may have the right idea. TOTW has a LOT of good stuff. Midsouthshooters has some good prices. Either way, i might have to bite the bullet and just not deal with CVA anymore if i keep being ignored.