Rocky Mountain Arms blackpowder rifles

LEE3370 · 09-13-2007, 08:20 AM

Does anyone know anything about the blackpowder rifles that were made by Rocky Mountain Arms in the early 70s? They were designed by Dick Casull of .454 Casull fame. They were made in .44, .36, and .22. They loaded from the rear with a swivel breach, not from the front like a normal muzzleloader.
Thanks,
Lee

toolman · 09-13-2007, 02:08 PM

I've never seen one but it sounds pretty interesting, got any pics?

LEE3370 · 09-13-2007, 04:29 PM

I will see if I can take some and post them.

toolman · 09-13-2007, 04:43 PM

Cool, BTW, you might want to contact the guys @ Dixie Gun Works for more info about it, they are extremely knowledgeable about all things concerning black-powder and muzzle-loading. Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies.

LEE3370 · 09-14-2007, 07:38 AM

Here are the pictures.
It is about the size of the cricket ww rifle.
To load it you press the lever on the left of the rear block and twist the breech 90 deg. Pour in 7 grains of fff and press in a .24 ball. I use a small set of channel locks with leather glued on the jaws. You then remove the small "cap cup" on the rear of the breech and put in a capgun cap (the ones today are not as powerful as the ones in 1970 so I use two) and turn the breech back inline with the barrel. cock and fire. It uses a rebounding firing pin so it seems pretty safe.

Bill Jacobsen · 08-01-2008, 01:00 PM

What would you like to know? I worked there 72-74.

LEE3370 · 08-01-2008, 01:23 PM

Howdy Bill,
OK, here goes?
How many of each of the different calibers did they make. .22's, .36's, and .44's.
Is there anywhere I can get spare "cap cups"?
What is the value on the little .22 A22W now?
Thank You very much,
Lee

JimPierce47 · 08-06-2008, 01:20 AM

Hello, I currently have a .22 Cal Rocky Mountain Arms black powder rifle that is 99% it is in excellent shape. I also have the original led balls in original manufactures bags. I also have 3 boxes of origianal rolled caps and 3 original cap holders. I am trying to sell this rare gun and am having a hard time locating anyone who even knows what it is. This is a rare find if you have a suggested price or even a good site that would have more info for me please advise.

Thank You...

Jim Pierce

GlockMeister · 08-06-2008, 01:31 AM

Search gunbroker.com maybe and see if any have sold recently, then if so, you might get an idea of what you might be able to get. Also maybe check the other online auctions.

I'd also wait and see what answers, if any, that lee gets from Bill. Depending on how many were made, and the odds of just how many may be left, will play a big rold in the values of any others, same caliber or not maybe?

Lee, pretty neat looking little rifle you have there.

LEE3370 · 08-06-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JimPierce47

Hello, I currently have a .22 Cal Rocky Mountain Arms black powder rifle that is 99% it is in excellent shape. I also have the original led balls in original manufactures bags. I also have 3 boxes of origianal rolled caps and 3 original cap holders. I am trying to sell this rare gun and am having a hard time locating anyone who even knows what it is. This is a rare find if you have a suggested price or even a good site that would have more info for me please advise.

Thank You...

Jim Pierce

Howdy Jim,
Welcome to G&G. You will find a very great bunch of Folks here and there is something for everyone in the many fourms. Drop by the intro thread and let everyone have a chance to give you a big HOWDY.

OK, on the RMAC 22, I can tell you how many has sold on AuctionArms and GunBroker in the past four years. None on AA and three on GB. I bought two off GB about four years ago and last week another one sold there. It sold for $70.00, nothing came with it and it was scratched up a little. I have had searches set up there for that long to notify me if one comes up for auction.
There was one in very good condition on GunsAmerica last winter for $149.00 but it didn't sell. I just went back and looked for it. It is back. I had first said that it was $125.00 but that was wrong I guess or he has raised his price. See it here:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976965473.htm

I have been trying to get one in each caliber (22, 36, 45) but the 22 is the only one that I have seen.
I have looked every where I can think of for four years trying to find out what one of them might be worth in various conditions but I can't find anything.
DON'T let it go until you find out something firm on what it is worth.
If you do start to sell it, PLEASE, let me know what you are offered, or are selling it for. I might be able to buy it.
If you find out anything, let me know what and where, and I'll do the same.
Good luck,
Lee

andrew cochran · 08-07-2008, 12:19 PM

I'd love to have one of those.

Earl Easter · 08-19-2008, 10:49 PM

Hi ya LEE
Just peekin at your rifle pictures and i like it a lot. Cant answer your questions but thank you for posting the pictures...

ibfarrel · 11-25-2008, 02:05 PM

Hi,
I bought mine new. They were put on sale at the grand opening of a Govway in Phoenix in the early 1970's. I think I paid $20 regularly $44.
I have several hundred lead balls for it. Getting paper caps for it would probably be a trick. Does anyone know a good source for them?

Huachucarev · 04-17-2009, 09:33 PM

Caps are available at http://www.SurvivalPartyStore.com. Rolled, 1000 in a box for $5.00. I need a Cap Cover for my RMAC A22W. Anyone have one for sale? I have one .22 that is unfired.. Willing to sell or reade.

jmabbott888 · 10-29-2009, 03:02 AM

I know it's a little late in posting but I have 8 or 9 of the cap holders for this rifle & am willing to part with 1. how much are you wanting for yours or what are you willing to trade for. BTW, I'm in California. Email me at jmabbott888@yahoo.com if you are still interested. Thanks

LEE3370 · 10-29-2009, 06:44 AM

Thanks, but all my "stuff" is gone.
I sent a PM to Huachucarev letting him know about your cap holders. He needs them.
Again, Thank you.
Lee

jmabbott888 · 10-30-2009, 02:29 AM

O'well a bit late lol. These little rifles are a blast to shoot.

09-13-2007, 08:20 AM	#1
LEE3370 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southern Indiana Perry County Posts: 402	Rocky Mountain Arms blackpowder rifles Does anyone know anything about the blackpowder rifles that were made by Rocky Mountain Arms in the early 70s? They were designed by Dick Casull of .454 Casull fame. They were made in .44, .36, and .22. They loaded from the rear with a swivel breach, not from the front like a normal muzzleloader. Thanks, Lee __________________ GOD, COUNTRY, AND FLAG

09-13-2007, 02:08 PM	#2
toolman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 7,135 Blog Entries: 25	I've never seen one but it sounds pretty interesting, got any pics? __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

09-13-2007, 04:29 PM	#3
LEE3370 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southern Indiana Perry County Posts: 402	I will see if I can take some and post them. __________________ GOD, COUNTRY, AND FLAG

09-13-2007, 04:43 PM	#4
toolman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: abilene,tx Posts: 7,135 Blog Entries: 25	Cool, BTW, you might want to contact the guys @ Dixie Gun Works for more info about it, they are extremely knowledgeable about all things concerning black-powder and muzzle-loading. Dixie Gun Works muzzleloading, blackpowder and rare antique gun supplies. __________________ cosmoline is an aphrodisiac!

09-14-2007, 07:38 AM	#5
LEE3370 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southern Indiana Perry County Posts: 402	Here are the pictures. It is about the size of the cricket ww rifle. To load it you press the lever on the left of the rear block and twist the breech 90 deg. Pour in 7 grains of fff and press in a .24 ball. I use a small set of channel locks with leather glued on the jaws. You then remove the small "cap cup" on the rear of the breech and put in a capgun cap (the ones today are not as powerful as the ones in 1970 so I use two) and turn the breech back inline with the barrel. cock and fire. It uses a rebounding firing pin so it seems pretty safe. __________________ GOD, COUNTRY, AND FLAG

08-01-2008, 01:00 PM	#6
Bill Jacobsen Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1	RMAC rocky Mountain Arms, SLC Ut What would you like to know? I worked there 72-74.

08-01-2008, 01:23 PM	#7
LEE3370 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southern Indiana Perry County Posts: 402	Howdy Bill, OK, here goes? How many of each of the different calibers did they make. .22's, .36's, and .44's. Is there anywhere I can get spare "cap cups"? What is the value on the little .22 A22W now? Thank You very much, Lee __________________ GOD, COUNTRY, AND FLAG

08-06-2008, 01:20 AM	#8
JimPierce47 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1	Hello, I currently have a .22 Cal Rocky Mountain Arms black powder rifle that is 99% it is in excellent shape. I also have the original led balls in original manufactures bags. I also have 3 boxes of origianal rolled caps and 3 original cap holders. I am trying to sell this rare gun and am having a hard time locating anyone who even knows what it is. This is a rare find if you have a suggested price or even a good site that would have more info for me please advise. Thank You... Jim Pierce

08-06-2008, 01:31 AM	#9
GlockMeister Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Northern Illinois Posts: 9,676	Search gunbroker.com maybe and see if any have sold recently, then if so, you might get an idea of what you might be able to get. Also maybe check the other online auctions. I'd also wait and see what answers, if any, that lee gets from Bill. Depending on how many were made, and the odds of just how many may be left, will play a big rold in the values of any others, same caliber or not maybe? Lee, pretty neat looking little rifle you have there. __________________ "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." "Edmond Burke"

08-07-2008, 12:19 PM	#11
andrew cochran Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Little town in ARKANSAW! Posts: 2,741	I'd love to have one of those. __________________ I'm moving to Alaska!

08-19-2008, 10:49 PM	#12
Earl Easter Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 2,131 Images: 20	Hi ya LEE Just peekin at your rifle pictures and i like it a lot. Cant answer your questions but thank you for posting the pictures...

11-25-2008, 02:05 PM	#13
ibfarrel Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1	I also have one of these and have .22 balls for it. Hi, I bought mine new. They were put on sale at the grand opening of a Govway in Phoenix in the early 1970's. I think I paid $20 regularly $44. I have several hundred lead balls for it. Getting paper caps for it would probably be a trick. Does anyone know a good source for them?

04-17-2009, 09:33 PM	#14
Huachucarev Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 4	Caps are available at http://www.SurvivalPartyStore.com. Rolled, 1000 in a box for $5.00. I need a Cap Cover for my RMAC A22W. Anyone have one for sale? I have one .22 that is unfired.. Willing to sell or reade.

10-29-2009, 03:02 AM	#15
jmabbott888 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bakersfield, Kalifornistan Posts: 27	I know it's a little late in posting but I have 8 or 9 of the cap holders for this rifle & am willing to part with 1. how much are you wanting for yours or what are you willing to trade for. BTW, I'm in California. Email me at jmabbott888@yahoo.com if you are still interested. Thanks

10-29-2009, 06:44 AM	#16
LEE3370 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southern Indiana Perry County Posts: 402	Thanks, but all my "stuff" is gone. I sent a PM to Huachucarev letting him know about your cap holders. He needs them. Again, Thank you. Lee __________________ GOD, COUNTRY, AND FLAG Last edited by LEE3370; 10-29-2009 at 06:45 AM. Reason: spelling

10-30-2009, 02:29 AM	#17
jmabbott888 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bakersfield, Kalifornistan Posts: 27	O'well a bit late lol. These little rifles are a blast to shoot.